Hi Cat Lovers!

I'm very new here, I mean the cat thread. . I have always fallen in love with cats every time I see them, but I never got the chance to have one, well actually coz my mother didn't like the fact of having a cat in the house. We used and still have some stray cat that we fed : there was this one mommy cat and her two kids I named mak kucing, sabrina and salem came to my house like 5 years back. Salem was a black cat, and took the name from Sabrina the teenage witch of course. Well actually, Mak Kucing and Salem went missing after last 2 years actually, and now Sabrina was the only survivor. However, she did went missing for quite some time, and when she came back, suddenly she became untamed. I'm not sure why.

Anyways, now that I think I'm old enough to have a cat for my own, and the fact that I don't spend most of my days at my parents' house, I think I should get a cat companion now. I have been wandering around the internet realm to find a cat for myself. I'm not sure to adopt some DSH or maybe get a pedigreed one. Sabrina had some kittens but they all became untamed too. I just couldn't go near them. Huhu. She would ask for food from us, and I always 'talked' to her, but I still couldnt go near her. Huhu.

Yesterday I was bidding for a persian kitten. I'm not really sure if it's a persian, coz like u guys mentioned here, it shud have all the certs right. But I think to get my first kitten/cat, do you think I shud go for a domestic ones first eyh? They will become pretty too right if I feed them good food, say like Science Diet?

Anybody wants to give me a kitten? I guess, if for domestic I would go for orange or silver tabby, but seriously hard to find lah even for a domestic. Or maybe just plain white kitten. .

By the way, since this is also my first time surveying for pedigreed cat, why eh, they are all so expensive? Huhu. Even the ones without cert pun mahal2..

Hehe, I've checked, like almost everyday now, but all those yg i berkenan semua on hold jer or already adopted. So am gonna check everyday from now on. Gotta grab fast.

Wow elfreakz, thanks for the very detailed reply . Thanks for the 'do you love or likes a cat' article. Really informative. Hurm I think I do lack a bit of that for the time being. Huhu, but I guess I have a lot of the 'love' thing towards my pet hamster. I've never had a pet cat before, so I've never really show my love to them. I will try my best to learn how to pet a cat.

Actually I really wanted to feed good food from the store to the stray cats but of course, my parents are against that. Huhu, they said membazir duit, huhu I know all of you must think its a bit awful, so instead my dad bought some fishes from pasar and then we would mix it with the rice, macam kucing kampung punya food. Sometimes, I would sneak the most to feed friskies or whiskas to them.

Like I mentioned before, I do have a hamster. Got it as my birthday present from my friends. I did all my best to give everything to the hamster, i.e buying the best home, the appropriate size of wheel, the good food, bedding and all. Even brought it to the vet when he's sick, but it's funny, I think the vet didn't know how to treat a hamster. He was surprised to see him at first. Huhu. Ok, a bit off topic this should be in the hamster thread . But I don't know, my hamster is adorable but he is not that manja and I don't feel appreciated heh.

After your reply, and chit chatting with a cat rescuer, I guess I would go for kucing kampung . I'm not ready to entertain a diva at the mo. I wanted a happy and and tame cat. Wanted to get one since last year, but I thought I wasn't ready that time, and then when I realized what I managed to do with my hamster, after a year, I guess it is time for me to get a cat, no? Really, do you think I'm that ready?

About the bidding thingy, I have already suspected something while bidding, good thing I did not win. Huhu. It doesn't really look like persian too, more to DLH.

People here at lowyat forum are very helpful. I've been learning about pets here the most.

Heh. Seriously, I dont find any offensive words there. You are just telling everything and the truth about cats and their charity right? It's good actually, so that people won't take cats for granted.

Will try and check at SPCA too. They have some adoption fee right? Will share with you guys once I got my cat/kitten . Oh, just got some news from a friend of mine, she'll be giving away some of her kittens too. not sure what type, but I guess kucing kampung jugak kot. . Gonna check that out too, and can ask more tips from her directly.


Btw, on a side note, just wanna share and ask you guys lah what does this email means..



Is this some kind of scam? Huhu, I emailed her to ask for her cats. She's located in Singapore. I know, I said I'm going for DSH, but this was before I made my decision. . She's giving away her Scottish Fold without any payment, but need to pay for the transportation. I did saw this kinda scam concerned post in one of the cats forums, but can't remember which one. Been reading too much already.. .

Erm, I'm not so sure, I guess not. Saw her advert at adoos.

Hi people, its me again. I've gotten my kitten yesterday, and he's with me for about 18 hrs already. He's not even a DSH by the way, got it from a friend of a friend. Huhu, by the way, I haven't seen him poo at all during his stay with me at the moment. Is this normal, he starts to eat kibbles already, i fed him science plan, but i only saw him pee once last night, but no poo at all. I am kinda worried now, since this is my first time having one.

While googling I saw some people saying that to trigger a kitten to poo or pee, we need to rub his tail with wet cotton ball. Do I need to start doing this by now?

And one more, is it normal for them to meowing while in cage? I can see that he's a bit upset when I put him in the cage, but I have to train him coz I might want to go out and it's a big dangerous to just leave him alone around the house. Right? He's just so manja, only want to sleep on people's lap. How lah to leave him during the day like this.

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Added on March 31, 2009, 9:28 amI finally saw him poo, and luckily in the litter tray, coz he was in the cage. Huhu, but I still couldn't get him to stay in the cage for longer than 10 minutes. Can I just leave him around the house by himself? I think he's too young.. and he's such a lap kitty, always feels so comfy sleeping on my lap, I think he's missing his siblings and mother. Sorry I am such a beginner, please advice. Thanks!

This post has been edited by ubikeledek: Mar 31 2009, 09:28 AM

I'm not quite sure about his age, even his previous owner isn't sure herself, but they said he's around 2 months old. Maybe born late January or something. Well, I don't know how to estimate myself, but he's the biggest amongst his siblings.

I just saw some vids in youtube about rubbing the private parts, and yea the kittens are much more smaller than Willie (that's his name btw ). Good thing is he actually know where to pee and poop : in the litter tray! Guess he has learned it before. But am still afraid coz who knows he might not find the place and ended up tercicir somewhere else.

And now I don't put him in the cage at all, just let him roam freely around the living room and my bedroom, even when I'm out, but have to make sure that the environment is safe i.e closing the sliding doors etc. But what wonders me more is that he loves to lepak at ceruk2 and small places, but never liked the cage. Hurmm. The cage I bought was the 2 ft ones. Is it small? His favourite spot for now is under the TV cabinet which is of course much smaller than the cage.

It's okay right to let him free around the house? I live in an apartment so the area isn't quite big. A 3 tier cage won't fit the house too though. Huhu. I do have some toys but he seemed less interested. He's more interested to play with my foot and my hand i.e chasing my foot and bite my hand.

By the way here are some of his pics. Hope you guys can tell how old is he! And I'm gonna get a new litter tray soon, I think it's too small for him, well actually it was the smallest one, bought it before I met him though. Perhaps will make a DIY ones like the one mentioned somewhere in this thread. And should add a pillow as well eyh?

Not sure he's a Siamese or what, but he has long fur, so he might be Balinese right? Or maybe Himalayan? . Yea again, it's not a kucing kampung.



This post has been edited by ubikeledek: Apr 1 2009, 04:57 PM

Heee.. okie2 sorry won't bring that up again. Was just wondering if he might inherit or have some of the characteristic. Coz u said before right something about being a diva. Plus, the house where I went to pick this little kitten have loads of those Siamese alike. But anyway they are all mixed already kot.


I measured my kitten, and he's around 23 cm. Heh, so that makes him 3 months ++.

Guess the house's environment is okay for now. Even closed the kitchen door coz afraid he might eat rubbish or could access the laundry and of course there would be a lot of poisons there! . Will just use the cage to transport him from one place to another lah.

I fed him with Science Plan and the litter is Frisian Cat's Choice clumping punya. Ok ke? Not sure what brand is good though. Saw one brand here. Is this brand good coz I thought of getting the Clean N Easy one but the pet shop I went didnt have that so instead I bought Frisian. Did saw it at The Pet Family before but at that time, still not sure how my future kitten would be. Saw OKO ones at Pets Wonderland too while surveying for cat litters but its a bit expensive eh. By the way is the silica ones any good?

Anyways, thanks again for the teguran dan cadangan! . I'm still learning.

I was just wondering about the spraying thingy. Heh, he will really spray eh if I don't neuter him? That's the best solution eyh. Am still considering about the neuter. I know I know, I should neuter, it's better right, but am still thinking. (mesti org kat sini semua marah : takpayah pikir buat je). Huhu but a friend of mine is thinking about mating her kitten and mine in the future. Hurmm.

I guess I should not buy the most expensive stuffs yet for now, coz I'm still a student, so better keep the money for the most needed stuffs like vaccination and other emergencies, yet still giving him the best within my current budget. But this litter sometimes sticked between his nails lah. elfreakz, I read that u're using Fussie Cat right? Hurm, gonna check that out when this 10L one finishes. Or maybe try OKO. Heh. Wait till I earn my own money.

Anyways, one more question, is it normal for kittens to have sakit mata? Should I bring him to the vet or just wipe the discharge with damp tissue? Last night I've cleaned them up, actually only one sided had the discharge, but then later of the night, the other eye went pinkish, I was already afraid but I am bit tight up with my test and classes today, huhu, and then this morning he can't even open both of his eyes. But I quickly wipe them lah, and this evening he still have the discharge. He actually had it since the first day I got him. Shud I buy the eye drops or bring him to the vet? Am thinking of going to Jabatan Perkhidmatan Haiwan at Shah Alam tomorrow morning lah. Is the service good?

Hey people, its me again.. it's been a while, well actually only a week. Huhu.

Well actually, that Friday morning, my kitten had bleeding poop. It's not bleeding at the poop itself, the poop looked normal, but I can see some brown+reddish liquid at his anus. I suspected it from the milk I gave. Didn't go to Jabatan Perkhidmatan Haiwan coz seems like my kitten really hated long driving so instead I brought him to a very nearby vet. Got him some medications for the eye as well as some antibiotic and deworming. The vet said there are 3 causes of bleeding poop - virus, worm and the other one I actually forgot what is it. Huhu. She said can't tell its a virus yet coz I just got him for a week, have to wait after 2 weeks, and vaccine can only be done after 2 weeks as well. The vet suspected worm for the bleed coz she saw the worm's egg under the microscope and I even saw that too! Anyways she said that I can see the worm coming out with his poop after a few days, but I didnt see any worms at his poop at all after 3 days? Or I didnt look at it carefully eh?

Anyways, he looked already healthy and the eyes are big as ever, not until today coz something else happened pulak. My kitten is not eating breakfast! I thought maybe my housemate has given him breakfast already before she's off to work at 7 am, coz I saw the bowl is empty when I went out of my room at 8 am, and I know he should be hungry at the morning right coz the dinner is like 9 hrs ago. I gave him his food then, normally every morning he would be running to have his breakfast but today, he went to the bowl and sniff2 and then walk away?? Maybe he has eaten, but then while I was having my breakfast, he vomited right in front of me. The vomit doesnt look like saki baki of food, its like perut kosong punya vomit, like buih2 like that? I cleaned the bowl and everything already, and I always change the food every mealtime but he's not eating.. Huhu, I tried crushing the kibbles with my spoon and add a bit of water but he's not even interested at all. Should I bring him to the vet again? And, why is he vomiting?

Above all, he is still an active kitten, always jumping and running and chasing people's legs.


hurm, mine has orange cat, and has lots of Japanese writings there. Not sure which one, but it doesnt have any smell either.

This post has been edited by ubikeledek: Apr 10 2009, 11:21 AM

Ok, I just saw other vomits around the living room. There was one with a little bit food with it, and to my surprise I saw something else as well. Thought it was blood at first but after examining, it was a red feather from my kitten's toy . He might have swallowed it. Huhu, but the portion of food is very little, I saw a few more vomit spots around the house and they are already the white colour liquids and some foamy ones as well. Afraid he might caught gastric! How to make him eat now?

This post has been edited by ubikeledek: Apr 10 2009, 01:24 PM

I went to visit the vet this evening, just got back actually, and the vet said it is because of the feather, some might have still be inside his stomach, and since the food that came out is already digested (I actually took a picture of the vomit and showed to the vet), so the problem is around the stomach and the intestine area. So the vet gave me 3 meds including this one med called Laxatone , but anyway, I cant give the med not until he eats, the vet even said for me to stop feeding dry food and change to wet food. I bought this wet food brand called sumo cat, quite a number of them, but he seems like not interested to eat at all! How can i make him eat?? Have to force like babies eh?

Actually I stopped the first medication since Tuesday, and he was okay since but I think this new problem came right after he swallowed the feather! Huhu. Got him the dewormed medication last week so the worm problem should be solved already la eh? The stool was okay the whole week, so it should be okay lah right?

hurm.. he's not even interested with his previous dry food as well? .. he looked so restless..

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Added on April 10, 2009, 9:54 pmnot even drinking... ..

tried to force but to no avail. it went out from the mouth. isk, have to be more garang. ..

btw, i read that some cat mites can even transfered to human? i mean yea ringworm can right, but what about mites/ticks? dunno lah lately i have some mite bites on my skin too! just now just realized got another 2 bites. my fren said its the mattress one but i now suspected i got it from my kitten coz never had that many before. i should get frontline eh? i mean for the kitten not me.

This post has been edited by ubikeledek: Apr 10 2009, 09:54 PM

Wah, I was looking for Hill's or RC ones too, but the pet shop I went which was the only one opened at that time have not many choice of wet food. Shall search for that tomorrow! Thanks for the recommendation! Already tried forcing the food to him, I think a little bit did went through the esophagus, I hope! . Should feed him all the time with syringe yea?

thought it was the hama too, but then what wonders me is i got another few extra bites while i was out to the vet. hurm, nevermind will do another spring cleaning of the house. the bites on my skin (mainly at my arms) looked like the mosquito bite with a dot in the middle. maybe it's not a dust mite or bed mites, googled the picture and it was diff. surely the flea or somekinda bug! it just happened last 2 days though. haih, too many things happened in a few days. how can he get the flea since he's just staying indoor? shud it be possible he might have it before i got him?

my poor kitten, vomited again an hour after the force feeding and medication. the vet did say that he might still vomit again and it will take him a few days to react to the meds, but how will he have the strength with an empty stomach? i myself have already started to frustrate now, but i know i cant give up!

weird.. my kitten don't like wet food, he prefer his dry science plan better. maybe he's not used to the new food eh? btw, a bit relieved now coz he wants to eat by himself already this afternoon! this morning i force fed him : blend the wet food so that it would be easier to feed with syringe (still havent got the hill's one yet, but alternatively blend the current one i have). tried to give him the wet food but he don't want to eat at all, so i add a bit of his dry food. it's okay right to mix them?

now he's already jumping2 like crazy like he used to! i wish he would just rest for his sake, but what to do a kitten will always be a kitten. huhu. need to supervise him more, afraid he would vomit again coz of the jumping. can meh?

I think I saw it at majalah 3 last 2 episodes or so. If mixed with serval they are called savannah right? But this one i think they mentioned african serval cat.

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Added on April 14, 2009, 2:21 pm

wow good tips! i'm trying to train my kitten not to bite my hand as well. tried to do the one finger too


This post has been edited by ubikeledek: Apr 14 2009, 02:21 PM

Hey people. I have some doubt about whiskers here.

Yesterday I brought my kitten to visit my friends, just bringing him jalan-jalan. I did realize his whisker was somewhat varies from short and long, but when my friends sees them, they said it looked like it was being cut off (the short ones) coz they didn't have the sharp end. I thought those whiskers are growing that's why it looked like that, but my friends said growing whiskers should have a sharp end.

Obviously I didn't cut them, why should I, those whisker are very important. The thing is, how can it looked like it was being cut off whilst nobody's doing? My friends said maybe my housemates did it, but I don't want to blame anybody just yet, coz they seemed to love the kitten. I hope!

Anyways, long story short, this morning when I woke up, I saw my hamster's cage had some opening. I mean u know right those hamster's house had some hole so that it could be connected to some tunnels outside? That thing was opened this morning!

Since yesterday, after what my friends told me, I suspected it was my hamster who might have cause the whiskers shorten. I'm sure my kitten would always looked around the hamster's cage and small opening and his whisker might have gotten in, and then the angry hamster might have bitten them. Is this story possible? Any other cause that can make those whiskers like that? Whiskers wouldn't get off easily like hairs falling off right?






And to my surprise, I saw my kitten's food inside my hamster's cage as well! Huhu. Now I think I can't let them be friends. Poor kitten.



This post has been edited by ubikeledek: May 20 2009, 10:45 AM

Huhu, yea I was surprised too coz the hamster was all safe lepak-lepak inside the house. He really does know how to go back to his home!
But anyways I know my kitten was scared of the hamster too coz everytime I took the hamster out and placed him inside the hamster ball for them to play, my kitten would kinda freaked out. He's always like tried to attack (macam mengacah-acah) and then he backed off and ran away, and will repeat it all over again.

Hee. I was worried that the kitten got bitten by the hamster though. Coz once I got bitten and was bleeding like hell! Now I think my kitten is stressed too for I dont know what reason. I've posted a few pictures in my previous post. At first I thought it break in the middle as well, but when my friends told me it looked like kena potong, I was worried already. But it was quite a lot u know that's what worries me.

I know how the food ended up there, hamster has big pouch so he stuffed all the kittens food and bring back home. I was so surprised coz it was a lot and it wasn't that near!! Hurmm.. bet he must have smelled the food loooong time ago, and finally had a chance to taste them!

Going to hamster thread now!


Owh ya, by the way, my kitten now is a small eater, right after I introduced the wet food to him (not giving him everyday though!). He only eats little kibbles at night and there are leftover that's why the hamster managed to steal them!

This post has been edited by ubikeledek: May 20 2009, 10:58 AM

eh.. no lah, he has his own cage. i call it the hamster's home.. hoho.. so the hamster knows his way back to his home after he went out of the leaked hole (the thing that we could connect to a tunnel). just now when i closed back the hole, my kitten started to scratch there, like trying to open it again. hurm, now i think this kitten might have be the one who brought the hamster out. god knows what were they discussing during the whole night!

haizz.. that's why, i remembered u wrote here - wet food is like banana split.. now he don't want to eat 'salad' already!

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Added on May 20, 2009, 11:31 amowh ya and the hamster also i let him play and roam around the house inside his hamster ball, so that's how they play together. hehe

This post has been edited by ubikeledek: May 20 2009, 11:31 AM