Thanks for the answers N1-C.

Due to some unfortunate events.. i might have to lower my scale on what to have on a sager.

Is the hardisk on sager is the same as other notebook hardisk?

Hey no problem, I'm glad to help and sorry to hear that.

Yes , they're standard. Provided you get the one with the right connector but it's less likely that you'll get the wrong one.

What is your budget like now? Where are you buying from? And to be specific, which model do you decide to buy?

I might be able to help you out more if you could provide me with a little more information.

My budget right now might be around Rm6500 including shipping. Hope this time my boss will approve it.

Not sure where to buy from yet but thinking of buying from xoticpc.com. Or maybe buy a backbone from Rjtech with cpu & graphic card. Survey the price of hardisk & ram here in Malaysia are more cheaper.

Thinking of buying NP8662 but might have to let go if not affordable.

Ofcourse need a new one with receipt so can claim later.

Unless you have a better ideas?

This post has been edited by havefun2night: Mar 26 2009, 10:40 PM

The base configuration of NP8662 @ Xotic PC is not bad at all and its well within your budget range even after adding a copy of Vista Home Premium and including shipping fee.

Rjtech will also be a good idea but I have little information about them.

Of course, go for whichever option that appeal you more.

Gosh your boss must be 'very generous' to buy u a laptop costing 6.5k . As for mine so far all i got was a hp compaq presario and currently using toshiba satelite m200 for office works, soon will upgrade to dell latitude E series . Makes me wonder what kind of job u are into to have such a boss.

I wouldn't say that he is 'very generous' b'cause he already turn me down on a better specs deal of a laptop. And that it isn't confirm that i get the 6.5k yet.

I mean that u have used 2 laptops already and getting a new one which altogether combine would cost almost Rm8k - Rm10k right? Well i'm trying to save his as* and money (if he realise it) by building a laptop that could last longer than others. Not to mention far better than any laptop u can get in Malaysia.

All he kept saying is "..bla bla bla..cut less, more profits...". And he said he just bought a Sony laptop only for Rm3xxx ++ for himself. (i know when he said this, he must be wondering why mine cost a lot more than his).

i work as a web designer and a little bit less of a programmer at his company. And he's trying to let me work on a stupid laptop.

Well that's true but then those i used were from different projects and span along few years of working. Totally incomparable to yours getting your 1st(or is it your 1st company laptop?) company laptop with high end specs and cost a bomb.

It is normal actually for bosses/managers to maintain the cost or budget for a project therefore u can't entirely blame him also. U'll understand when u climb to a post as same as his .

My boss is currently using dell latitude e series laptop so are all other managers as the company limits the purchases of new laptops pending position and max to a certain spec . As we don't dealt with high level of graphical application only autocad therefore the company decided to put a cap on our company laptops .

Anyway there are not many laptops 'far better' in fact even comparable to np8662 not to mention np5797(equipped with world fastest gc and an option to get extreme processor) u can get in m'sia. Except for dell xps 1730,cost a bomb too with 9800mgtx in sli, i dont see any other laptops available locally which can even come close to np8662.

Yep, it's my 1st and wouldn't dream of getting a 2nd laptop if i get a sager.

Well, that's true... But if i were my own bos, i would give myself a superb laptop..

I would actually say there are only a few high end laptops in malaysia which cost almost the same price or more than the price compare to Np8662. For example Asus G50 cost about Rm6999 which is a bit more than Np8662 and the specs sucks..

Ur boss very generous oledi able to provide u Sager system.. Many companies especially Chinaman firms only provide low specs system. My staff currently only uses Pentium 3, 32GB hdd, CRT 14" monitor, 64MB Ram...

Actually he hasn't yet provided me any. Right now i'm trying to get the budget from him.

Good luck with it... and don't mind I ask, aren't the system you're looking for a little overkill for what you're doing? Programming aside, don't you think that a powerful processor (Quad) and a decent Quadro will be sufficient for web design (Assume you're doing the painting part)?

dude, own a sager and you will become legend!!! HUAHAHAHAHA~~~~

maybe he just want that extra power to play games once in awhile and wish to have the latest GPU, so it will be future proof... lolz

@WyjSwmW: Wow nice notebook!! welcome to the 17" world of sager!! lets pwnz some zombie in L4D~~ lolz!! is the design of the notebook to your liking??

This post has been edited by Bankster: Mar 27 2009, 11:18 PM

I wouldn't say it overkill. Maybe a little pricey but the specs is worthy for years to come. But it would certainly be a killer to work on a less decent laptop.

Just have to wait and see. If not then i just have to get a cheaper laptop. boo-hoo..


Very well said!! Couldn't have said i better myself.

Ya, very satisfied with it.

The downside is the fonts are really really too small. Really need time to get use to it. I am now torrenting L4D oso btw...

Now I just wait for the availability THIS baby... ...

Guys.. want to ask.. is the cpu of a notebook and a desktop different? the pins, size, etc etc...?


Also the graphic cards are quite different right?


If i buy a barebone. the ram & hdd isn't hard to get. But where can get a cpu & graphic cards for notebook in malaysia?

Yes, the mobile CPUs differ from their desktop counterparts. Some notebooks do use desktop CPUs, but their battery life is compromised meaning that they won't last very long. Be sure to check up on which platform (Montevina / Santa Rosa) the mobo is, as the latest penryn mobile CPUs are not compatible with Santa Rosa.

The latest mobile CPUs are socket P and have 478 pins. Typically having the TDP of 25W. Generally, in my laptop's case (NP8660 based on M860TU), I can switch my P8400 to P9600 on-the-fly without having to flash its BIOS or modding. Mobile C2Qs, however, are not compatible with the NP8660, only the NP8662, which has a revised mobo. The NP8660 can be also affixed with an extreme C2D, however the price for such a CPU is abysmally high.

The laptop's GPU, if it is even upgradeable, should be in MXM form factor, High performance laptops have MXM 2.1 type III/IV module. Now with the advent of MXM 3.0 type A/B, I think newer laptops will be using such form factor. I suggest paying mxm-upgrade.com a visit.

But even then, having the right form factor is never enough for a laptop GPU, the mobo's bios must recognize the device or else the laptop would
1) not POST
2) display an error regarding the unrecognized mxm device

Furthermore, the TDP of a card you want to affix to the laptop must be taken into account, as different types of mxm card has different TDP. Lastly, we have the heat dissipation factor. This is a factor that is not to be taken lightly, even if you DO manage to fit the card in and boot up, but if it's not within the thermal budget of the laptop, it is basically useless as it is unstable and may crash constantly or downclock, whichever comes first, when gaming.

Getting mobile CPUs and GPUs are hard. You may be able to buy them from the vendor that is selling you the barebone of a laptop, this is advisable as the vendor knows what is compatible and what is not.

Going on E-bay is fine too, a seller called extremeprocessor is famous for selling ES Intel processors. GPUs however, are rare and expensive, The most latest mxm based GPUs are usually not sold individually, but, there might be an exception to foreign websites, which do sell parts of laptops to others. Some require you to be an existing customer of their company and some don't.

All in all, if you're staying in Malaysia, I don't really see the point in buying a barebone, with the shipping cost taken into consideration and all that.

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The trial or complete version? Anyway we'll discuss further in pm or else very soon the mod will poke in and drop a 'aloha' here .

I totally agree on that when applying 1920x1200 resolution. But u can enlarge the fonts to your liking at the control panel though if you are not comfortable with the font suddenly = so small .

By the way the D900F is currently available for pre-order and accordingly they ship all around the world.

Check it out at www.mycizmo.com .

Er.......... now I really strugling should I spend more money for dual graphic card gaming laptop or jsut go with the single card lappy... now sager already have the GTX280 one but only 1 graphic card, is that so big diff btwn 1 and 2 graphic card?

Depending on the game, the performance boost may be 50-60%. If you have the money then go for it, if not, I suggest configuring the laptop to have a single card first and then upgrading it to SLI when you have the money.