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post Jun 5 2009, 12:00 PM

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Hi, I'm interested to get a laptop from xoticpc, but too bad its the MSI gt725 and not a Sager so please help me out abit here hehe. You said that they allow you to choose the power adapter which suits you but I could not find any option for that in the customization. May you help me point it out? Thanks.
In all honesty? I didn't get to customize the power plugs too. Therefore, when it arrived, it was a type B power plug, the ones used in USA. Had to buy one that's type G, because coupling an adapter with the type B seemed dangerous to some extent.

I think you could just inform them of your need for a type G power plug (typical in Malaysia and UK). I think they'll oblige to your demand just fine.

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post Jun 6 2009, 06:13 AM

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ah yes, i have also heard from other buyer about RJ tech, been pondering it for awhile though, because i have some eager seller to sell an GTX 280m lolz. though the huge price gap between RJ Tech and The reseller are kinda huge. so im still thinking about it. 

anyway, an upgrade from the 9800m GTS to the GTX 280M will make a huge differences in the performance!! surely it will be much more stable and you can enjoy a much better gaming experience with it!!
Yea, The only thing lacking in my system now is processing power. With all the refresh done by Intel, I was hoping the prices of processors would drop considerably... but I guess that won't be the case.
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post Jun 7 2009, 11:12 AM

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That's probably the most powerful laptop in terms of processing power you got there. Encoding would be a cinch with this machine.
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post Jun 9 2009, 07:48 PM

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Finally got the GTX 280m in my laptop, here're some screenshots.

Clocks @ 550/1350/920 EDITED [10 June 2009]

I've underclocked the core and shader as I'm using setFSB to overclock my CPU, thereby overclocking the core and shader. The underclock was done so that the clocks gained via the increased FSB balance out. I've looped each test except for the CPU ones 50 times, total hours taken to accomplish all the tests were 5 hours +. The maximum temp I got from the GPU-Z log was 81c, not too shabby for a high end card huh? The 3d mark 06 score is 10500, give or take 50 points. It may seem like there's not much gain from the 9800m GTS O/C (10200), however, in-game performance wise, this thing blew the 9800m GTS away. I'm done with ATItool's artifact scanning, ran it for 3 hours and no error encountered, with a stable temp of 77-78C. I guess this proves that the GTX 280m is stable in the NP8660, eh?

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DMC 4 DX10 Super High @ 1680*1050 without AA
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Crysis Framebuffer benchmark dx10 Enthusiast 1680*1050
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The Last Remnant @ 1680*1050
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Furmark @ 1680*1050 for 30 minutes(Disregard the previous note, max temp 82c)
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post Jun 10 2009, 11:51 AM

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I'm getting quite frustrated with XoticPC. Although I'm not ordering Sager from them, instead it's a MSI laptop, it's been stuck in Phase 2 for almost 3 weeks already. The first time I emailed them, they told me it would be shipping in the early part of week 2. That didn't happen. Then I sent them a second email and they said production was complete and it would be shipping within 24-48 business hours. 48 business hours has gone by and still no shipping notification from them.

Anyone else experienced this when dealing with them? I can't really afford any delays anymore, will be leaving to Aussie soon.
I guess the only thing you could actually do now is send them an email regarding all this. Explain that you'll be leaving soon if you haven't. I've never experienced such a delay before but maybe you could subtly inform them that if the item is not shipped within 24 hours, you'd be canceling the order and asking for a refund due to the reason above.

It is never good for a company to say one thing and do another.
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post Jun 11 2009, 08:35 AM

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Great news then. Let's see some benchmarks and all that when it arrives.
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post Jun 15 2009, 08:50 PM

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nclude shipping fees? It's available in Malaysia do you know that? The specs is slightly better than the one ur getting and the price is 5299
I really would like to see a link. But I'm guessing you probably made a mistake here. The only other better GCs i can think of is the GTX 280m or the ATI 4870 and the proc is a standard P8600.
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post Jun 16 2009, 01:19 PM

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No problem. As long as you're into it, I think we're alright with it.
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post Jun 18 2009, 02:00 AM

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haha looking forward to it myself as i'm now choosing between alienware and msi heh
No love for Sager ? The NP8662 isn't exactly a slacker when it comes to performance, fit in a QX9300 and a GTX 260m, you'd be having the fastest all-rounder 15" laptop.

Come now, embrace and love Sager. You know you want it.
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post Jun 19 2009, 12:06 PM

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do you upgrade the processor yourself??? technically, is it hard? im rather interested in this matter... lolz... so which processor do you intend on getting?
I'm thinking T9900 or the P9700. Yeah, upgrading the proc for the NP8662 is easy,at least, easier than modding the GTX 280m in order to fit the heatcage, in fact, it's the same for every laptop as long as yo get to the socket. Just make sure quality thermal compound is used and it's spread correctly.

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wow, cool you got the GTX 280M! this one is the MXM2.1 version right?? how much did you pay for this baby? lolz.. did you encounter any problem with the driver? and your temp is quite the surprise for me  , it is rather stable for the 15.4" cool dude, how is the GPU after having for sometime now??... lolz.. congratz in having the GTX280M!!     

the m15x of alienware are also capable of equipping the GTX 280M but the user seems to encounter some trouble with the driver and cant connect to external monitor. i read it up on notebookreview forum lolz..
Yup, it's the mxm 2.1 version since the NP8662/NP8660 is not equipped with the mxm type 3. After sometime now, the temp is even more stable since the new thermal compound takes time to burn in, I don't get temps higher than 85c now, and that's with my newest OC @ 560/940/1360, which translates to 620/940/1500 after applying setFSB.

I got it for about $490 from RJtech, at first, I decided to get the GTX 260m, but it was no where in sight and I figured, what the hell, and promptly placed an order.

The m15x can be equipped with a GTX 280m, although it is advisable to place a GTX 260m, instead, in it. The highest temp I've seen from the benchmarks and stress test , even before O/C is 92c. There are even reports that the card's temp exceeds 100c after a few minutes when installed by another user, and there's no way you could exit 'stealth' mode without overheating. He's working a way around it, no news though.

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post Jun 23 2009, 01:28 PM

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xoticpc.com is one of the best.
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post Jun 23 2009, 03:54 PM

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Cannot la please go to xoticpc.com....alternative is you get alienware from dell la haha
Weren't you the one who said that some local company in malaysia is selling the MSI GT 725? The specs of the machine is very impressive, even more so with the ability to overclock the CPU at the touch of a button.

Won't you recommend the company to him?
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post Jun 26 2009, 01:04 PM

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If the GT725 could be gotten locally and the price isn't too far off, a recommendation should be fine, it's not forcing him to buy one, just letting him know that there are other options out there.
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post Aug 1 2009, 11:44 AM

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really? hmm. I haven't had any problems accessing... but I'm still soooo hesitant to push the confirm order button... still haven't decided on whether to get desktop for half the price, or stick with the sager..

anyone regretted not getting a desktop after getting their sager?
If you're having second thoughts, I think it's best to reevaluate your priorities. If there's no need for a mobile system, or you're not the type of person who travels around much, then obviously, there's no need to spend huge bucks on a gaming laptop.

Even the strongest card currently available, is not exactly on par with the GTS 250, which is today's standard of mid-range desktop cards, at stock clocks.
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post Sep 2 2009, 08:47 AM

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yes, im quite happy with it atm. on a pickier note, the location of the power plug is not too good... its right beside the usb port which 'forces'to turn the cable to 1 way. and it comes off a little too easily....
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