Sager : Mobile Gaming @ Its Best
Sager : Mobile Gaming @ Its Best
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Dec 20 2008, 09:58 AM
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3,008 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: T.T.D.I, Bukit Damansara |
Yup, targetting to get one by the 3rd quarter of next year coz my current laptop is only like 3 months old.
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Dec 20 2008, 11:47 AM
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126 posts Joined: Dec 2008 From: Labuan/Miri |
QUOTE(cannavaro @ Dec 20 2008, 12:19 AM) Welcome to the club! (as if I'm one of the owners. Thanks and yes I'm based in Malaysia, Labuan Federal Territory. About the arrival time, I don't know as its not here yet. Hope you get yours soon!Are you based in Malaysia? If yes, how many days did it take for yours to arrive? And Corad I just noticed you're also in Sarawak! I travel back and forth from Labuan to Miri to study, are you by any chances are oil platform workers or also a student? |
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Dec 20 2008, 01:24 PM
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191 posts Joined: Dec 2008 |
Hey, jz asking, I'm interested in NP2096, Which shipment method is the best ah?
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Dec 20 2008, 02:56 PM
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126 posts Joined: Dec 2008 From: Labuan/Miri |
QUOTE(Dispell @ Dec 20 2008, 01:24 PM) Are you buying through XoticPC? I'm afraid there's only 2 options for international shipping which are the UPS and USPS. In both cases, they are expensive.I personally would not recommend you if you're going after the NP2096 as you can get other brand with similar specification and most importantly, can buy it locally which save you from paying the huge amount of shipping fees. |
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Dec 21 2008, 02:25 AM
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191 posts Joined: Dec 2008 |
Yeah. XoticPC.
What brand u recommend if I take local de? model, spec n price list~ |
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Dec 21 2008, 09:36 AM
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126 posts Joined: Dec 2008 From: Labuan/Miri |
I'm sure there's plenty of brand out there with the 9600M GT. A few that I remember are;
HP DV5T, Acer 5930G, MSI GX630 and BenQ Joybook S42. I think there's more but i couldn't remember them all, try google them and be sure to look carefully at their specifications as there's various version of the same notebook which in some cases, doesn't come with 9600M GT |
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Dec 21 2008, 09:57 AM
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2,403 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak / United Kingdom |
QUOTE(N1-C @ Dec 20 2008, 11:47 AM) And Corad I just noticed you're also in Sarawak! I travel back and forth from Labuan to Miri to study, are you by any chances are oil platform workers or also a student? i'm a student QUOTE(Dispell @ Dec 20 2008, 01:24 PM) International USPS. It gives you tracking. |
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Dec 23 2008, 06:52 AM
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33 posts Joined: Apr 2006 |
Hey corad. Just wondering, how would one go about obtaining the 7% student discount you mentioned from XoticPC? There doesn't seem to be any information on the website itself. Maybe I'm blind lol, but do you think you could enlighten me? Cheers haha. =p
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Dec 23 2008, 10:16 AM
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191 posts Joined: Dec 2008 |
QUOTE(Ashikune @ Dec 23 2008, 06:52 AM) Hey corad. Just wondering, how would one go about obtaining the 7% student discount you mentioned from XoticPC? There doesn't seem to be any information on the website itself. Maybe I'm blind lol, but do you think you could enlighten me? Cheers haha. =p There's a 7% student discount? @@" |
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Dec 23 2008, 10:23 AM
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2,403 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak / United Kingdom |
QUOTE(Ashikune @ Dec 23 2008, 06:52 AM) Hey corad. Just wondering, how would one go about obtaining the 7% student discount you mentioned from XoticPC? There doesn't seem to be any information on the website itself. Maybe I'm blind lol, but do you think you could enlighten me? Cheers haha. =p well they seem to have redrawn it for now and let me clarify : student discount = for university students only. It helps if your uni is known in the states QUOTE(Dispell @ Dec 23 2008, 10:16 AM) Not for the moment. |
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Dec 23 2008, 10:25 AM
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191 posts Joined: Dec 2008 |
Oh.
Hahaha. Getting my hopes too high for now. xD |
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Dec 23 2008, 10:39 AM
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2,403 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak / United Kingdom |
haha, who knows ... if we get enough users maybe we can get clevo / sager / xoticpc to set up a base here
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Dec 23 2008, 10:43 AM
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191 posts Joined: Dec 2008 |
I've been thinking of that too.
IMO sager's notebooks are quite the value for money and has hell lot of good specs. |
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Dec 23 2008, 12:34 PM
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33 posts Joined: Apr 2006 |
QUOTE(corad @ Dec 23 2008, 12:23 PM) well they seem to have redrawn it for now Oh bummer. Yeah, figures that they would withdraw it - the $400 off is already a rather massive discount. and let me clarify : student discount = for university students only. It helps if your uni is known in the states And I am only too aware of the uni student prereq lol, 2009 will be my final year (which means that it will be the last year for me to scrimp up some savings on this baby |
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Dec 25 2008, 09:15 PM
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1,102 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Kuala Lumpur |
QUOTE(corad @ Dec 23 2008, 10:23 AM) well they seem to have redrawn it for now I hv asked about this long time ago(may be 2,3 months ago) and they mention dat there is no student discount.. and let me clarify : student discount = for university students only. It helps if your uni is known in the states Not for the moment. |
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Dec 25 2008, 11:42 PM
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4,852 posts Joined: Aug 2006 |
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Dec 26 2008, 09:33 AM
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126 posts Joined: Dec 2008 From: Labuan/Miri |
According to this, you can get it here. Else, your best bet is international vendor. Its pretty confusing for me but I believe its the chiliGREEN Mobilitas CU MH Serie but hey, I can be very wrong.
[EDIT] Guess I'll update a little bit Shipping It was shipped last Friday (19 December) and arrived this morning (26 December), took around 4 business days to arrive (Holiday @ 20,21,24 and 25 December). Pretty impressive I'll say as I live in Labuan ATM, an island that even not every Malaysian know The Beast Under construction! Pretty much everything is the same with corad's 8660 so I'll not mention them but I'll add a few details that he didn't mention or I want to emphasize My Sager NP8660 came with the following specifications: # Intel Core 2 Duo P9500 (2.53GHz/6MB L2 Cache/1066MHz FSB) # Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit # 15.4-inch WSXGA+ (1680x1050 Glossy Display) # 4GB DDR3-1066 RAM # Nvidia GeForce 9800M GTS # 320GB 7200RPM SATA II hard drive # Dual-layer 8X DVD burner # 7-in-1 memory card reader (Standard) # Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5300 + Bluetooth (Standard) # 8-cell Li-ion battery (Standard) The configuration's price came out to be $1,980.74. ATM of my purchase, the exchange rate was 3.59 thus I'm paying RM7110.86 in total (My dad told me he need to pay the charges of Pos Malaysia when the machine arrived but I'm not sure as ATM I'm too happy to remember lol, thought this will be helpful reference for anyone who need). The reason I bought this notebook is because most of the gaming notebook out there exist in the form of 17" but I need a notebook that's able to satisfy my gaming needs with a relatively portable size. Hence, I came across the Alienware m15x and the Sager NP8660. In the end I got myself the Sager NP8660, I must say that this.notebook.is.rock.solid overall in term of built quality. One thing that I'm disappointed is with the built quality of the lid. The inner lid is weak IMO, when pressure is applied, it will flex. Plus what ever the reason is, I can move my screen slightly around within the inner lid, that said the construction within is not tight. However, nothing is affecting the screen itself, its just that I've paid for 7k and there's such flaw but I can live with that. The Beast - Silent Mode There's a dedicated button on top of the keyboard to enable silent mode. When pressed, an icon will showed at the top left part of the screen to indicate its been turn on/off. The name basically says it all, when Silent Mode is turned on, the fan will be stop spinning and create virtually no sound at all except of the sound the electronic parts give out (You need to pay real close attention to notice this). This mode especially help for people who constantly work in library as it will not disturb the people around. Note that you should never run any game or any resources intensive program under this mode. Ok, after running my notebook on battery for an hour with silent mode turned on, I notice virtually no difference from the normal mode in term of battery life. This however, make sense as the fan doesn't need to kick in even when running on battery in normal mode. The Design Under construction! The design is overall business-like, clean and professional feel with its brushed aluminum surface. The notebook itself is covered in black with silver trim, glossy part can be found at the outer edge of the inside lid and a thin strip surrounding the keyboard. On top of the screen, there's the 2.0MP webcam. On top of the keyboard, there 4 shortcut buttons which is the Default Email, Homepage, Silent Mode and Power Button. ![]() And the bottom of the keyboard, is the keypad, fingerprint reader and mic. The Screen Under construction! My NP8660 came with the WSXGA+ (1680x1050 Glossy Display) screen, different from corad's WUXGA (1920x1200 Matte Display). The display is reflective but still viewable in office environment with lots of windows. I've yet to take it outdoor yet so I can't say anything about how the screen perform in outdoor environment. The Heat Under construction! Note that Xotic PC's Sager NP8660 come pre-configured with Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. Below is the idle temperature with Notepal Infinite @ Max speed (Room temperature to be 29~30C). ![]() And here's load temperature with Notepal Infinite @ Max speed (Room temperature to be 29~30C). ![]() Although the HDD's temperature load at nearly 60c but its not that hot IMO when you touch the palm rest. The cooling of the NP8660 is excellent as you can see from the pictures above it run cooler than my previous notebook with an 8600M GT (Topping at 80+) with only 5400RPM HDD (The palm rest of my previous notebook somehow feel hotter than my NP8660 although only topping at 50+). Below is the inner component of the NP8660. I believe this picture is best posted under The Heat section for people to have better understanding of the cooling of the notebook itself. Note that the GPU is covered with a massive heatsink. Picture source: www.xxodd.nl ![]() The load temperatures show off the effectiveness of the single fan cooling solution and engineering skills of Clevo. The Heat - Silent Mode Under construction! No more screen shot due to the image limitation... Orz Anyway, after an hour running in silent mode, the temperature readings from HWMonitor are as the following; ACPI Min @ 40C - Max @ 49C CPU Min @ ~24.5 - Max @ ~38 GPU Min @ 35 - Max @ 44 HDD Min @ 34 - Max @ 54 ATM I'm doing internet surfing with my wireless turned on @ Balanced mode with brightness @ 40% and no other accessories are being plugged in. The I/O Ports Under construction! Front Side: 1x Headphone-out, 1x microphone-in, 1x S/PDIF-out and 1x mini Firewire. ![]() Back Side: 1x DVI-out, HDMI-out, 1x combined eSATA/USB, 1x USB, 1x power jack and 1x security lock slot. ![]() Left Side: 1x Optical drive ![]() Right Side: 1x 7-in-1 card reader, 1x ExpressCard/54 slot, 2x USB, 1x LAN jack and 1x phone jack. ![]() The Performance Under construction! Please forgive me for not having any benchmarks as Streamyx is really slow ATM. Different from corad's 9800M GT, my GTS perform 5~10% slower than his. In addition, its only 1~5 FPS lower in real world performance test. ![]() You can check here if you want to find out more about the GT or GTS. Ranking at 10 and 11 respectively, losing only to the GTX, upcoming HD Radeon 4850 and all the other SLI/Xfire cards, it kicks all of the other ass out there One side note is that my P series CPU when compare to corad's T series CPU is it consume less voltage, run cooler, slightly longer battery life but slower in the same price range. Conclusion Under construction! Pro(s): # Unbeatable performance in the form of a 15.4" notebook. # The touch pad surface is matte. # IMO the right placement of the optical drive and hard drive in a notebook. # No bloatware! (The Xotic PC version) Con(s): # No volume wheel or any multimedia shortcuts button (Play/Pause etc). # The webcam is rubbish in low light environment (Or when it thinks its in low light environment). # The speaker's sound is flat, mono-like and weak in volume. # The size of the power brick can be troublesome. # Relatively poor battery life, expect to be carrying the power brick around. Subjective(s): # No unnecessary flashy LED light(s). # No touch sensitive button(s). # The keyboard is pretty hard to press and feel cheap in plastic quality. # The touch pad is relatively small. To sum up, I'm happy with this machine , it deliver what I'm expecting from the 9800M GTS. At 7.1lbs/ 3.22kgs, it weight just as heavy as my previous 15.4" notebook but pack with a bigger punch. So no complaint carrying it around! This post has been edited by N1-C: Feb 1 2009, 07:16 PM |
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Dec 29 2008, 02:22 AM
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33 posts Joined: Apr 2006 |
QUOTE(N1-C @ Dec 26 2008, 11:33 AM) Guess I'll update a little bit. Haha been meaning to ask if you had received your laptop. Good to know it arrived so promptly. I just placed an order for an NP8660(similar specs to yours), all the while worrying that something would go dreadfully wrong during shipping. Definitely reassuring to hear from you Just got my machine. It was shipped last Friday and arrived this morning, took around 4 business days to arrive. Pretty impressive I'll say as I live in Labuan ATM (An island that not every Malaysian know lol and I'm really risking the notebook to be stolen as it require plenty of transit in order to arrive at my place). Pretty much everything is the same with corad's 8660 so I'll not mention them. But I must say, this.notebook.is.rock.solid in term of built quality. The design is overall business like, nice clean and professional look with its brushed aluminium surface. Bring up front to do presentation and everyone will be wondering what the heck is the brand of this laptop. No flashy light(s) (Except for the power button) and no freaking touch sensitive button(s) (All my previous notebook have them and for some reason, I hate it, always accidentally touch them). Play/Pause button is being re-allocated to Fn+~. Another few things to praise is the disc drive is located at the left, which mean it will not bump into your mouse when its eject. With the disc drive at the left, naturally the HDD is located at the right, which also mean when you game, your left hand will not feel the heat at the palm rest. As for the con, the.webcam.is.rubbish. However, I'm not a webcam user but I thought it will be a good reference for the other. The size of the power brick can be troublesome. To sum up, I'm happy with this machine. At 7.1lbs, it weight just same as my previous 15.4" notebook but pack with a bigger punch. So no complaint carrying it around! This post has been edited by Ashikune: Dec 29 2008, 02:23 AM |
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Dec 29 2008, 04:30 AM
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2,403 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak / United Kingdom |
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Dec 25 2008, 11:42 PM) Definitely,it's still seem a bit unbelievable for me. thats a tough question since the prices of OEM laptops aren't regulated. from what i've seen xoticpc is still the cheapest. You'll have to check out clevo's wiki page and see which of their distributors in aust have it Who do i need to contact if i want to get it in Australia? QUOTE(N1-C @ Dec 26 2008, 09:33 AM) Guess I'll update a little bit. Awesome !! Just got my machine. It was shipped last Friday and arrived this morning, took around 4 business days to arrive. Pretty impressive I'll say as I live in Labuan ATM (An island that not every Malaysian know lol and I'm really risking the notebook to be stolen as it require plenty of transit in order to arrive at my place). Pretty much everything is the same with corad's 8660 so I'll not mention them. But I must say, this.notebook.is.rock.solid in term of built quality. The design is overall business like, nice clean and professional look with its brushed aluminium surface. Bring up front to do presentation and everyone will be wondering what the heck is the brand of this laptop. No flashy light(s) (Except for the power button) and no freaking touch sensitive button(s) (All my previous notebook have them and for some reason, I hate it, always accidentally touch them). Play/Pause button is being re-allocated to Fn+~. Another few things to praise is the disc drive is located at the left, which mean it will not bump into your mouse when its eject. With the disc drive at the left, naturally the HDD is located at the right, which also mean when you game, your left hand will not feel the heat at the palm rest. As for the con, the.webcam.is.rubbish. However, I'm not a webcam user but I thought it will be a good reference for the other. The size of the power brick can be troublesome. To sum up, I'm happy with this machine. At 7.1lbs, it weight just same as my previous 15.4" notebook but pack with a bigger punch. So no complaint carrying it around! i added an owners list to the 2nd post QUOTE(Ashikune @ Dec 29 2008, 02:22 AM) Haha been meaning to ask if you had received your laptop. Good to know it arrived so promptly. I just placed an order for an NP8660(similar specs to yours), all the while worrying that something would go dreadfully wrong during shipping. Definitely reassuring to hear from you i'm guessing your local courier company ? whichever has the best service to your area. Mine was delivered via DHL. I'm not in M'sia, but it should be the same |
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Dec 29 2008, 08:06 AM
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757 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
Did you overclock your lappy?
I am amazed that it can play crysis without lag at all ENVYYYY you BTW , how much you bought for your second one for the year end discount? I am curious |
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