im not sure about HP, but in my experience, dont buy Dell from PCfair coz they are not directly from dell. They are a retailer. Whats the diff for direct dell vs retailer is that Dell have this 14days unsatisfactory full refund policy but retailer dont have such thg. so if u are not happy within 14days, u cant return back if u buy from the retailer, but u can return back to dell and either get ur money back from dell or credit transfer to other model u choose from dell.

for hp laptop, they are quite expensive IMO compared to other brand such as Dell, toshiba and etc in term of same spec. I compare my XPS with my fren HP (i dont what model is that). She bought it 5.2k only with 2ghz CPU + 14.1" LCD + 2gb ram + 8400gs only while mine is 4.6k for 2.4ghz + 4gb ram + 15.4" LCD + 8600M GT DDR3. But the HP finishing quality is pretty good compared to my dell.

If u go for highly portability, i suggest u to get 14.1" if u dont mind its being smaller. IMO 15.4" is also kinda big to bring out to those places such as starbucks, coffee bean and more... not bcoz of the weight but its bcoz of the size... 14.1" will be better in portability while 15.4" is okay too if u want the bigger screen.. its up to ur own preferences also in the end.

At rm6k u can get this TS sager for rm6.1k if u don't mind some of the weaknesses such as branding and physical outlook... and its a super gaming laptop FYI.... even better than those 7.7k Dell XPS M1730 gaming laptop... but the warranty is the let down on this sager since it is not in malaysia. u are spending abit too much for a non-gaming/minimum system. If u only want it for portability + office work then 3k should be good enuf... and u can keep that 3k for another future purchase....

This post has been edited by vincentlaw: Oct 31 2008, 04:54 AM

I'm currently playing Assasin's Creed, Far Cry 2, COD 4 and World In Conflict. Haven't install many games yet because I'm still waiting for the Windows Vista I bought to arrive ... I play crysis on high with 4xAA . Have yet to play Warhead since the reviews werent so good, and I din't particularly enjoy the alien part of crysis.


If you're not looking for high end gamming, I would suggest going for the main stream laptops And not that the Sager dosen't have warrenty, you just have to send it back to the US to claim the dv5 fits in well as a all rounder.

PC Fair can be a good place to buy laptops if you watch out for a few things. 1) Make sure they give you a new unit ie: straight from the box, not those they leave out to display.
2) Try to get as much freebies as you can. that's what pc fairs are for mouse , headphone, extended warrenty etc..

This post has been edited by corad: Oct 31 2008, 05:41 AM

Heh... thx for the tip and aso to the vincentlaw... But its not really pure gaming, just half-half... I'll decide on pc fair maybe... Heh... But claims to US will cost so folks worried abt that and etc... U know their kind, more on the security...
But dv5 is IMO an all rounder like corad said, heh, but I'll try and look for toshiba and others... But dell (online) turned me off with their lower then HP end graphics and no Centrino 2. Heh...

like vincentlaw said the hp pavillion series are overpriced.....better go for dell xps instead..

try search for asus laptop ranged around 3.5k -4.5k i think the price is more reasonable

This post has been edited by fcuk90: Oct 31 2008, 06:49 PM

yeah the hp pavilion series is a tad bit overpriced for sure..get their compaq series for better value although aesthetically speaking, the pavilion series is better then most...xps 17 inch series does good in value too...just dont get the 1330 series coz the defective cards

but he mention that he want Centrino 2 and better graphics.... but only for minor gaming ...... i heard d abit sad... coz i bought my XPS for quite heavy gaming 1.... haha

toshiba's expensive. HP gives good quality for low price

*cough cough* hopefully we can get this forum organised soon so that discussions like this can have their own threads

LOL.. poor corad,,his Sager thread become Laptop recomendation thread already haha.. btw if i want to go for the sager, i need someone to help me buy lor..haha

toshiba now is already cheaper thant HP...

they can ship to malaysia de

i was comparing laptops of the same specs. toshiba still comes out being more expensive.

suck on it little man, ... all because he can and u can't. btw, TS excellent choice!

FYI , the price of this baby has gone down !!

if you head over to xoticpc and configure it. You'll see that the total price for


Intel P9500 2.53 GHz
nVidia 9800 GTS 512 DDR3
4GB DDR 3
500GB 5400RPM

for RM 6.5k including shipping without any of the fancy discounts !!

Man,thats a really good deal.I also want one.

9800 with a 2.5 CPU.Enough for me to run DoW2 and SC2 in glory!

omg that's a DDR3 ram
I barely could find any models with DDR3 ram in M'sia some more its a 9800GTS + P9500 ~!!! What a great deal...too bad if you wanna claim warranty , gotta send it back
How much is the courier going to cost if you're shipping back to US? RM1k?

yeap, seems like they changed the graphic card from a 9800GT to a GTS tho. But it's still a good deal. *i've place an order for another *

well, i've had mine for a few months now. no problems at all no over heating / forced shutdown even with OC

it takes USD 233 to get it here, so i guess it's the same going back. (UPS 1st Class International Priority) takes 3-5 days .

And I can give a further 10% off to any lowyat-ian buying through me

You still deal straight with xoticpc, and no money goes through me. Just that I'll get commission from the sell and I'll gladly pass it back to the people here.

Hope to see this community grow bigger !

It's a very good deal from the beginning.

Im just concern about the warranty.Thats all.

I think i might get one next year,when my laptop become fully obsolete.

deal ends 6th of Jan 2009. Instant discount of USD 400 now (RM 1,452.33) Probably clearing up for another killer comming in late dec

@corad

how do i get the instant USD300 discount as mentioned in the website ? i can't find any clues about it, just can see the ad.

Still,how about the warranty?

How good is the workmanship? Does it break down often?