GOOD NEWS FOR ALL WINDOWS MOBILE USER !

Brief intro :
Most of you guys heard of NetCF 1.0 / 2.0 / 3.5 right?. For those who are not sure here is the brief about it;


Most of the cooked rom is cooked in with this netCF3.5 so you guys must be asking.....so what are the benefit of NetCF 3.5? Read here;


For your info, most of WM's stock rom is using netCF2.0 ! That's why those who are using cooked rom noticed the overall speed and performance gained over the stock rom. By just installing netCF 3.5 over stock rom WILL NOT gain any benefit out of it because this will not override the default netCF2.0 in the system. It's just merely reside in the system and let you install netCF3.5 written application to be install in your device e.g Auto Configurations Tools 3.2 etc etc .......

You need to 'instruct/tell' your system to use this netCF3.5 to really unleash it power! That's what this tweak is all about.

All you need is only 'this' little tool to the job and of course the netCF3.5 file, that's it ! Both are made in cab file for easy installation. Just copy both file to your device and install from your device. No hard reset / soft reset required !! and good news is this will not do any harm to your system

YOU WILL ENJOY 'CLOSE' TO THE SPEED AND PERFORMANCE OF COOKED ROM WITHOUT NEED TO FLASH ONE!

Here's the file you need;


Here's some screenshot;





Compatible Devices:
Basically all Windows Mobile devices. This has been tested on WM6/WM6.1. VGA/QVGA compatible!

Credits goes to Microsoft NetCF Team, LYN, Google, fellows Touch Pro's owner and bro Baronic whom tested this earlier. I'm just a compiler for this little tweak

Donations
Please donate your feedback in this forum by using the following format;

Device : [ HTC Touch Pro ]
ROM : [ 1.90.707.4 WWE / Stock ROM / WM6.1 ]
Your Feedback :

Pls remember to share your feedback, doesn't matter whether it's good or bad. This will be helpful to this community.Thank you and enjoy!

This post has been edited by old newspaper: Oct 15 2008, 08:07 AM

reserved

Good stuff. i personally can attest to its usefulness.

This post has been edited by Baronic: Oct 14 2008, 08:27 PM

If bro Baronic gives the thumbs up, my TNTY2 can certainly use the extra speed.

Just copy both file to your device and install from your device. No hard reset / soft reset required !! and good news is this will not do any harm to your system.

That's all I need to do? What is the chances of a total nub messing it up?

b4 installation, how to check the current installed .NetCF version.
cant seems to find any signs or info in all the corners...

or mayb it isnt installed. hehe
using cooked wm6.1

from wher i dled my rom, it said NET Compact Framework 3.5.7283.0
is pre-installed. is tat it?

so now i jus follow ur steps n walalalala

This post has been edited by ahnien: Oct 14 2008, 10:50 PM

This seems like a wonderful thing. Read the first thread twice and still don't get what the heck it means. Bet i can't tell the difference even after doing it as well.

Anyway, just to make things clear - I can just directly install it even though i never flashed my ROM before? And how can i undo it?

yes , that's all you need to do and it won't mess up your system too!

this tool is also meant for you to check what version of NetCF installed in your system too...

i'd try my best to explain it in a very simple layman term d if you are using stock rom, you will definitely notice the difference! [in terms of system responsiveness ] give a try and it WILL NOT mess up your system...and you can simply uninstall it from the system easily if you don't like it. anyway, i don't see any reason to uninstall this little wonderful tool

It should only affect the performance of .Net CF programs, so if you use a lot of them you'll see a performance boost.

I'm doing it right now and certainly looking forward to some performance gain. What kind of performance gain are we looking at?

examples of .Net cf progs?

This post has been edited by ashburn98: Oct 15 2008, 09:45 AM

Errr... hard for me to say.. off my head I know of some RSS readers, twiter clients and games that run on .Net CF.

but basically the core apps are still mostly in Native code so this tweak doesn't help those from the way it's explained.

But... it shouldn't hurt if you applied it, although if you ran a .Net CF program and it complained about version problems (reqs 2.0 instead of 3.5) you'll have to reset it back to automatic.

Device : [ HTC TyTN II]
ROM : [ 3.29.707.0 WWE / Stock ROM / WM6.1 ]
Your Feedback : frankly speaking, i don't really know how to test

to answer all your queries, here's the q&a dialog from Microsoft;

Q: Which versions of the device OS are supported by NETCF 3.5?
A: Windows Mobile 2003 For Pocket PC (both first and second editions), Windows Mobile 5.0 (all flavors), Windows Mobile 6 (all flavors), Windows CE 4.2 (AKA Windows CE .Net), Windows CE 5.0, Windows Embedded CE 6. Windows CE is a customizable OS and must include NETCF V 3.5 dependencies in order to run NETCF V 3.5. Contact your device OEM to find out if particular OS has them.

Q: What is the size of NETCF V 3.5 on device? Can I install NETCF V 3.5 on to storage card to save space?
A: NETCF V3.5 needs about 6.5 MB of storage space (depends on the device). NETCF V3.5 can be installed on to the storage card. About 1.2 MB (depends on device) is required on the main storage for that configuration, rest would be located on the storage card.

Q: I have other versions of NETCF installed (or in ROM). Do I have to remove them in order to install NETCF V3.5?
A: There’s no need to uninstall previous versions as NETCF V3.5 is side by side with older version. However one might choose to uninstall previous versions in order to save storage space on devices. Note you cannot uninstall NETCF version which is located in ROM nor would it save any storage space (because ROM versions are located in ROM and not in the storage).

Q: After NETCF V3.5 is installed, will older application automatically use it?
A: No. Applications would use version of the NETCF they are initially compiled for if this version is available for maximum compatibility. If older version is not available on particular device then application will be promoted to NETCF V 3.5. It is also possible to configure particular application (or all applications) to use NETCF V3.5 automatically.

Most of Touch Pro user reported [include myself] that after using this tool, it help faster load of certain program such as words, excel, snappier start menu and so on.

Note : this tools has been downloaded over 50+ times d [ as of time of writing ] and yet only few give their feedback

this tweak isn't new, it's just that i realize nobody notice this. i'm just take my initiative to share this goodies with you guys as a contribution to LYN Pda forum....



This post has been edited by old newspaper: Oct 15 2008, 10:04 PM

hail old newspaper. a new sifu in PDA-land

long live old newspaper!


Baronic dun angry. hahahaha~

Thanks bro. Definitely feel the difference.

erm... can be more specific on the difference

This post has been edited by ahnien: Oct 16 2008, 12:39 AM

eg : soft reset, all my icons (and i have a lot of icons, games and apps) all load faster

Apps like contacts, calendar, word, ppt, excel, opera loads faster compare pre installation.

I'm not seeing any real improvements overall, afaik I'm not using any .net cf programs.

thanks for your feedback guys! mind to share what device and rom you guys using as references here? thanks

Device: HTC Diamond
ROM : 1.93.7.707.1 WWE/Stock ROM/WM 6.1

I don't know what to test too. The significant changes are no lags at all since I installed it ( eg during browsing photos, running many applications at once and switching between applications ). Another thing is while running some of my games at 70% memory usage (whole day without soft reset), some games do lag but now the memory leak issue doesn't seem to affect the phone performance at all. I still soft reset once a day though.

Not sure whether this tweak has anything to do with it directly but it works, i guess. Thanks.

This post has been edited by RoMa_84: Oct 17 2008, 02:48 PM

Installed as instructed. It ask to remove my already installed NetCF3.5. So I okied that. Then applied it.
Don't seems to show any improvement. But no reduction in speed as well. So I'll just keep it. Might be faster just that I can't notice.

could be a trojan..

nice spamming there. if scared then scan la.
installing it right now..feedback on performance soon.

yea... its a trojan for ur PDA, not ur computer, n it could randomly connect ur data connection to ur service suppliers.
then it could eat up ur credit. or transfer ur credit to TS number as well.

or mayb hack into ur wallet n distributes the P&C information inside, then a week after installation, all ur bank accounts balance become zero...

a good thing: ur credit card balance becomes zero as well. and ur PDA's performance increased. THX to this trojan

u honestly think that I would recommend something that could be a trojan?

Installed and tested for a day... Tf3D scrolling have improved. However the lag post wake up is still there but not so noticeable... yet to try with gaming or apps...

thanks a lot!!!

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Added on October 18, 2008, 9:03 pmgood stuff!!!!

This post has been edited by Shin1022: Oct 18 2008, 09:03 PM

thanks for your feedback! pls do update us on your gaming and application experience too ya

glad that it work for you ! do you mind to share your device type and rom that you're using? thanks ya...

Device : Samsung i780
.Net ROM : 2.0.7045.0
PDA ROM : HH1
OS : WM6.0

After adopting the .Net ROM 3.5.7283, noticed the followings:
1) fring start-up +50% faster
2) contacts +25% faster
3) Opera Mobile 9.5 Build 2392 start-up +25% faster
4) Garmin Mobile XT 5.00.20w start-up +25% faster

Noticed also AppToDate is installed which linked to donald.modaco.com to download apptodate.cab file. What gives?

Wonder why Microsoft does not announce this upgrade for WM device officially

most wm6.1 does comes in embeded with the latest net cf version, if im not wrong...
but we dont have the tool that TS provide to utilize it.....

thanks for your feedback

yes, Microsoft does announce this officially....it's called 'powertoy'. this application is among one of the application included....it's just nobody care what Microsoft do.....all pda user tend to refer 99% of their issue/discussion in XDA-Developer but not the OS creator itself [Microsoft]

only cooked rom is cooked with the latest NetCF3.5 in the rom not the stock rom [ even Touch Pro's default is the old NetCF2.0 ]

Yo can anyone please upload the files somewhere else like on megaupload etc?

I'm having problems with rapidshare, says I'm downloading a file when I didn't

Thanks in advance

"powertoy"... LOL-ed

Megaupload link;

NetCF3.5 cab - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XZ7ZRX5M

NetCF Config Tool - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GS5OZ2F4



dun play play oh....it's really 'Power' toys ! lol

I've tried on my phone.
Before this, averagely I need to soft reset once per day.
After this "tweak" I now need to soft reset thrice per day average.
Yay!.

lol hang a?

bro, do you mind share what device and rom you're using? could you tell us why you need to soft reset so many times? this is the first time someone reported such issue after using this tweak......anyway thanks for your feedback.

as up to date, here's the statistic of the file has been downloaded;



only few share their feedback.....

This post has been edited by old newspaper: Oct 22 2008, 08:45 AM

Device : HP Ipaq 112
ROM : 1.01.06 (5 Apr 2008) / Stock ROM / WM6.0

Noticed skyscape products which i have lotsa starts faster from memory card. The spinning volleyball(waiting sign) is markedly faster to disappear

no lags or crashes

Device: Asus P750
RoM: Wm 6.1

Feedback:
Apps loads faster now.

i'm using eten x800. ROM type NAND capacity 256 MB

Device : ipaq 612c
OS : wm6
ROM : stock

Feedback : felt bit faster on loading application.

thanks

I'm using Sammy i780, currently on official GH1 ROM. Soft reset because i have few application on todayscreen that run off from the storage card (SPB Insight and SPB diary with 900++ SMS and counting, is the main cuprit!)
Well, it's ok. I finally have the excuse/reason to make time to hard reset/reflash the phone to a modded ROM again.

ic, i thought the main culprit is this tweak......

thanks you guys for your feedback !

diao.... my atom life... now installed with wm6.1 + touchflo 2d ssooo soo soo smooth...

thx for the tweak

i really wonder... wat will happen to the smmoooooothnessss.... if i flash back to wm6.1 lite(no fancy stuffs)
yeah baby... you'r so smoooothhh
i'm enjoying the smooothness baby

This post has been edited by ahnien: Oct 23 2008, 09:47 PM

diao....what is that?

anyway, thanks for your feedback and glad it did work out for you.....enjoy your smoothiesss

its actually a foul language(in chinese)

This post has been edited by ahnien: Oct 24 2008, 02:22 AM

Thanks for the people who create this stuff (Tweak) it works.. my HTC pro now work smoothly. I never soft reset again. i don,t run too many application at once, so it rarely hang.

i will agree with marauderz (hey, r u from MIND? you know serena yeoh?).
newer .NET F/CF version will improve in certain ways and usually major improvement on performance and security issues than prior version. ONLY apps running off CF can see the different, and you will hardly be able to notice the different without using benchmarking tools. some commented opera runs faster which i doubt opera was written in .net.

sorry but i just had to say this. lol at callmepaper and old newspaper usernames

credits to no other than Microsoft NetCF Team......welcome and join us in HTC Touch Pro LYN's Official Thread....more discussion on fine tuning your TP

yes, that's the purpose of this tool, to further improve NetCF written application.

here's the chart to explain it...



both have some sort of chemistry with paper....lol

ur butt must be itchy to get some papers to wrap. kakaka. aiks, i'm disgusting. been using this nick for > 10 years by now. if you see another, it's non genuine. well, off topic.

can someone upload the file into 4shared or savefile?
i cant download from rapid and mega(office)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347537

http://www.4shared.com/file/39192428/1d4cf..._by_JOKERz.html

powertoy (.net configuration)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en

i cant locate my net.config on my pda... where ar? sori so noob...

i believe you cant do that.
its like a pluggin for some of the wm apps.

thanks for the link!

which means? i'm a newbie in pda.. so very blur2 + no time to explore..

Device : [ HTC TyTN II]
ROM : [ 3.29.707.0 WWE / Stock ROM / WM6.1 ]

is it me, or i feel that the phone is a wee bit faster than usual. i mean for loading up the start menu, to open some apps. will test on a few more programs later

Good Work !!

Dopod 838 pro on win 6.0 significantly faster running the patch.

Gracias amigo !

Device : [hTc Touch Pro]
ROM : [ 1.90.707.4 WWE / Stock ROM / WM6.1 ]

After a couple of weeks using it, I found out that Office Pocket start up is a bit faster but not significant.
On the other hand, it's significant that my battery drain faster.

Device : [Omnia i900]
ROM : [ J1 / Stock ROM / WM6.1 ]

+1 coreplayer loads flv on the spot without the loading indication which means speed improvement when loading video and fastforwarding them, good for me..i had over 10gb of flv movie download from crunchyroll hehe (but bring not much diffrences to mpg, avi or any other format)

+2 microsoft office (power point) loads faster , can see the loading speed improve when opening very large files

+3 wifi usage improvement, during web browsing and RSS .. ( not confirm about this but seems to be faster than last time i used it, maybe my imagination, if someone could reconfirm this)

after testing for one week, i found only these 3 diffrences

Device : [Asus P750]
ROM : [ Stock ROM / WM6.0 ]

After using it for a few days, I have to say I don't see much difference...yet.

No noticeable change on my Diamond. Well, I need netcf 3.5 to run programs anyway. No harm done.

mine is O2 XdaII mini WM2003 2nd edition is it usable? i copy the file into the storage card but can't run. Error message " The file is not a valid Windows CE Setup file."

ermm.... prolly onli works for wm6 n later versions... or mayb wm5...

so far, most ppl who tested oso using wm6.1

This post has been edited by ahnien: Nov 14 2008, 10:27 AM

Device: HP 612C
ROM : [ Stock ROM / WM6.0 ]

Verdict: no different .. ..

I found out that netcf 3.5 got issues with Manila 2D, messaging and alot more in Atom. At first i wonder why ppl at PDAVIET removed the netcf 3.5 from their new rom (20924) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419572 (they must have done it for a reason)

I found that rom quite stable until i install 3.5, issues faced:

- Manila 2D not stable, always terminate after u launched and used other applications and have to relaunch again by tapping the screen.
- Some applications when u first launch will pop out (actually minimized, can be relaunch from task manager) suddenly after around 5-10 seconds launch and its irritating, everytime i have to relaunch applications.
- Touch flo (on scrolling in applications like messaging and menus) quite lag.

After i hard reset it, its back to 2.0, all problems solved, Manila 2D become stable again and applications never pop out anymore.

But 1 thing i found out is some applications cannot run without it installed, like Advanced Configuration 3.3. Its obviously got some increase in speed for applications written on the framework, but overall its still not stable coz facing issues in some other field.

Atom users, kindly take note especially if u r a die hard fans of Manila 2D like me!

i had to disagree on that bro.
the few latest wm6.1 rom with inbuilt m2d are also pre-installed with netcf 3.5.
and the rom from the link you provide oso using netcf 3.5 wo...

m2d has always been unstable regardless using the the new version of netcf or the old one.
and some of the few wm6.1 roms from pdaviet had always have auto launching problems(a good example: active sync).

i'm using atom life with wm6.1 + inbuilt m2d. but i din experience any problem you mentioned.

i believe netcf ONLY AFFECTS SOME PROGRAMS/APPS. NOT ALL, & NOT THE OVERALL OS PERFORMANCE. it only speed up some certain apps. example: ermm... powerpoint, word, excel, loading docs time. tested by me personally. if you use tis apps la.
correct me if i'm wrong.

the tool provided by TS actually onli enables you to choose which netcf version to use. and set which as default.
plus, adding certain particular apps to use netcf 3.5.

eih bro.... can share some comments n discuss bout your atom at the atom thread ar.
me not so kenal bout atom exec. coz me using life.
i sced some of the info bout atom/atom exec i give at atom thread ther wrong ady.

click my siggy

This post has been edited by ahnien: Nov 16 2008, 02:21 AM

i m new here.. just 2 week bought my asus p552w.. how to find the netfc?

Device : HTC Touch Pro
ROM : 1.90.707.4 WWE / Stock ROM / WM6.1 (All exactly same as TS pictures)
Feedback :
Installed and run in 5mins.
Freaked me out when i closed the installer and suddenly the screen blanked out (by dissolving) - I'd thought i'd bricked my NEW TP!!!
After pressing the power button in hope of life - it showed the S2U Unlock Screen.
The slide actually follows my finger now and i tried opening some programs - did try opening before and after install and there is some significant difference in loading times (used Mapking and Garmin for loading, as these 2 programs usually show me that rotating ball for secs; after install.. no more rotating ball)

Overall verdict: Recommended to install.

eh if download new map from malsing for mapking ok ka? still want to know how to install this new tweak

i believe so too what you pointed out. before i installed the netcf 3.5 tweak on my htc touch 3g, no problems.. now i face that sometimes like messaging half way it'll just close without me doing anything and sometimes scrolling is a lag

but it doesn't bother program running. i still can run advanced configuration 3.3

Device : HTC P3700 (Touch Dia)
ROM : [ 1.90.707.4 WWE (<- whats this?) / 2.0.7045.0 / WM6.1 ]
Your Feedback : After reboot, everything went worse, then after about a min or so it got slightly better. But after about 5 mins, now i feel the difference

Good stuff

devide asus p552w
rom v5.4.os.wwe00/biasa stok kot/ wm6.1
feedback.. currently good and faster

HTC Touch Pro
Stock ROM WM6.1

my device becomes more responsive and fast.. but if u check the registry
HKLM>Software>Microsoft>.NETCompactFramework

u'll see the netCFv3 is set to "0" ... whereas the version2 is "1" ... does it mean the version 3 is disable?

theres an update for the netcf i think.

sifus out there please advice.

thank you guys for your feedback

@sur3wyn - as far as i know, the netCF 3.5 is the latest one available......where's the source of the new netCF? mind to share.....so i can package it in a cab file for you guys for easy installation..

Dear old newspaper, I have previously installed the netCF 3.5 using the .exe installer. so I guess I can go straight for the netCF3.5 configuration tool right?


Sorry I couldn't wait for the reply was too bored, so I just went for it. It worked.

***
Device : [ HTC Touch Cruise ]
ROM : [ Stock ROM / WM6.0 ]

Overall I felt the TC works faster, significant improvement spotted when:
1. Going into "programs"
2. Lauching some of the .netCF 3.5 applications such as "Task Facade" which previously was kinda laggy for me.
3. Opening Words and Excel files
4. Lauching Mapking R12 with hardware button (surprisingly. or it's just illusion)

Others....cant really tell the difference.

***

This post has been edited by phylem_hao: Dec 27 2008, 04:25 AM

interesting..
ive downloaded both files and now im going 2 install

my WM is version 5 and im using a dopod 800W ( htc 3300 )

backup first then ill let u know the differences

must it be in device or can it be installed on storage card ?

This post has been edited by Jcsy: Dec 28 2008, 07:35 PM

nice, will try it out later.

ive installed on storage card...

cant tell the difference though

Device : [O2 XDA Stealth ]
ROM : [ Stock ROM / WM5.0 ]

can't really feel the difference.

This application MUST be installed in the internal memory to fully utilize the usability.....

=.= no space on internal memory

wat applications can see the usability?

can name a few which uses the .NET framework?

edit ::

or rather , ALL ?



This post has been edited by Jcsy: Dec 29 2008, 07:06 PM

What model are you using wor? The app is so small lol.

@Jcsy, did you mean the .netCF 3.5's size is big?

@Old newpaper, you meant the .netCF configuration tool right? Cause I tot I read somewhere saying the .netCF can be installed on storage card (but not recommended).

The not recommended means it might not work

Most probably. Safest is to install on internal memory, I always do that to keep my storage card clean.

the .NET is 6MB in total

my internal memory left 2MB only... haha im on a dated dopod model leh

i was also asking what applications will benefit from this, or generally the whole windows ?

I think it depends on which version of WM and ROM in use, no solid evidence to proof what applications benefit, it might be a split second faster and human eye cannot detect the difference. And that's why also, TS is gathering users' testimonials. But since you don't have the space to install it, better to use it as it is and when got chance, upgrade to another device then do modding.

This post has been edited by phylem_hao: Dec 30 2008, 10:54 PM

Net CF3.5 cab file size which i provided should be around 2.6mb

Net CF3.5 Config Tool cab file size which i provided should be around 31.2kb

NetCf based application should be benefits out of this and in some cases, the overall system responsiveness especially with stock rom user

true.....with stock rom you'll see improvement, with cooked rom it's only marginal as NetCF3.5 most probably already cooked in the rom......

but for the serious performance upgrade, pagepool tweak is the one that give the real deal....



thanks you guys for your feedback / comments !

when i run the cab file to install, it requires 6MB

yes, 2.6MB downlad but after unpack it needs more