mivec not in the list ? i know that the vtec comes first then mivec... and later all the vvt-i, dvvt, cvvt, vanos all pop up in the automotive industry

Mine L15A VTEC... Small V only.. By the way, Vios and City VTEC almost same fuel consumption.... roughly 400-420 km. And VIOS has DOHC, yet hp is lower than CITY SOHC, and lose when City can engage 7 speed manually. Try out Moon's EK9 or all sorta VTEC in Civic club.. All monsters lolz...

those vtec system in normal car...where got lifting system geh...

jz normal variable timing to save fuel lar
VTEC got lar....once open.....turbo pposster

Oh.. Seriously I don't quite know... But I understand mine is nothing but just a little thing. That's why I also eager to listen... Sorry if I offended you with my noob statement earlier... Paiseh...

To Travies, about VTEC, I think I can, or most people will know it is the best N.A technology out there. Although some may argue Mivec but from much forum that I read, VTEC/i-VTEC>Mivec and all other N.A.

Yes.. the 12V on normal cruise I know, 16V only utilized when 4k rpm above, usually achieved in S mode, or 7 speed tip-tronic manually. In the city guide, it somehow says 4k is the VTEC power zone, it does have a louder sound but still ok la... It's not like the real VTEC out there, it just goes faster. In my notice, 1st gear can get to 65km/h if rev up to 5800rpm, which is the max HP level of my city. It's better than Vios and those 1.6 proton. And I heard that most people out there says that the ordinary VTEC kick in feelings is better than the i-VTEC?

Reference: http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/VTECCityPrev/index.html
This shows some of my explanation, and much of yours correct points.

L15A still lose to D15B by the way, L15A 110PS D15B 130PS and B16B 175PS. Let's see what's in AVTEC in the coming 3 years.

Definitely... B16 is another story than L15... And Campro and CPS, even the Lotus Manager will tell it is 10 years back technology when my dad went for Lotus Exige S. And my brother knew the engineer of Campro and CPS, Campro is fixed cam profiling which the engineer said nothing much, while CPS it's like they modified it into 2 set of fixed valve timing to provide better low end torque, no lifting for CPS and Campro. And that engineer says, "CPS and Campro are old tech la, but still Ok if it is on Manual Transmission"

If only I heard wrong from the engineer than I may be wrong... Lotus is an engineering company, they don't have their own engine but they have all the research and technology. Such as the Lotus Exige S, Elise... They are using Toyota 1.8 VVT-i engine for Elise, and for Exige S, they supercharge it. And the ultra light weight and super handling Lotus chassis. So that indeed Campro and CPS they say only Cam Profile Switching, no lifting. Believe it or not, Proton claims that Waja CPS 125PS, but yet on the road they still lose to 110PS L15A.

Paultan already dyno a CPS Gen.2 at got about 109whp in a hot afternoon. 

Exige (and Exige S) uses VVTL-i 2ZZGE Toyota engine with Lotus own ECU and settings.

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Added on October 14, 2008, 8:20 pm
Probably 4spd auto Waja CPS vs L15A CVT?

Ok... Since I am making so much noob statement here... I just don't know how to explain then... Anyway, thanks sphiroth for the link. And to imperial, I have to respect whatever you say.. But what I test is just what I say bout the CPS vs L15, and City dun have that much transmission lost because don't have the torque converter... So forgive me everyone if you all cant take my noob statement.

I though that's the reason L15A+CVT could possibly wins Waja Campro CPS auto.

How about car weight? Gear change latency?

Well, i suppose the Waja will still pull away from the 1st gen Jazz but by a small margin only. Coz like someone mentioned here, power to weight ratio and CVT can keep the power and torque at constant rpm while the manual in the Waja CPS will need to upshift, hence it cant hold forever at its peak power like how the CVT can do.

But i have tried real world test between the 1st gen Jazz with L15A VTEC against a Gen2 R3 MME from standstill drag on an empty land. The Jazz with L15A VTEC had a full HotBits 4-2-1 full straight flow exhaust system + K&N open pod with custom air-ram pipe on 17inch rolling stock, while the Gen2 R3 MME (without CPS) has stock R3 4-2-1 full straight flow exhaust system + R3 spark plug cables + K&N drop-in air filter on 16inch rolling stock. Manage to do few runs and the result is pretty constant which is both are on par neck-to-neck battle for about 600m drag where the Gen2 manage to hit 3rd gear and both still pulling side by side.