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TSAngel of Deth
post Oct 11 2008, 02:21 PM, updated 18y ago

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Hi! I wanna know does ATI 4870 support PhysX? PhysX is Nvidia asset right? and today games such Crysis have physX effect...

So can i get the physX effect when using ATI? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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post Oct 11 2008, 03:01 PM

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I highly doubt it.
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post Oct 11 2008, 03:02 PM

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Last time, there was a news that PhysX can be supported in ATI.
Until now, still no news for that yet. laugh.giflaugh.gif

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post Oct 11 2008, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Oct 11 2008, 03:21 PM)
Hi! I wanna know does ATI 4870 support PhysX? PhysX is Nvidia asset right? and today games such Crysis have physX effect...

So can i get the physX effect when using ATI? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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i thought crysis dun use physX? dey use their own physic engine, correct me if i'm wrong.

games like UT3 support physX.

i dun think physX will bring much performance boost for now.
if u already hav a powerful enough CPU, den u dun need the GPU 2 do the calculation.
dis will benefit more if u hav lower CPU.

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post Oct 11 2008, 03:10 PM

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ATi support Havok, Intel's version of physics...

last time's news is that AMD was discussing with Nvidia to support PhyX, but till now no further announcement...
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havok is widely used in games on the ps3
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post Oct 11 2008, 03:40 PM

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I lol'ed, considering that PS3 is using IBM's processor, which was ditched in favour of Intel in the Mac :3
Anyways, we have to wait and see, as not many games support phsx, and nVidia might not want to give it to their nearest rival.
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post Oct 11 2008, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Oct 11 2008, 03:40 PM)
I lol'ed, considering that PS3 is using IBM's processor, which was ditched in favour of Intel in the Mac :3
Anyways, we have to wait and see, as not many games support phsx, and nVidia might not want to give it to their nearest rival.
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LOL.

IBM wasn't ditched in favour of Intel. It was the other way round. IBM simply couldn't care about the MAC...when you monopolized the market for all 3 next gen console, which will amount to tens of millions each year in CPU quantity alone. This in turn piss off Steve Jobs who then 'ditched' IBM becoz IBM is simply ignoring their requests and not willing to negotiate with Apple and rather focus their resources on the big console contracts. After all, how many MACs can you sell a year?? LOL.

PS3, XBOX360 and WII all has "IBM inside"...with different varietys.. thumbup.gif ...btw, PS3 Cell wasn't entirely IBM as it was a JV with SONY.

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post Oct 11 2008, 05:57 PM

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So better get Nvidia instead of ATI??
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post Oct 11 2008, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Oct 11 2008, 05:57 PM)
So better get Nvidia instead of ATI??
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I think this Physx thingy is not crucial and absolutely not a necessity for most of the people out there.... rolleyes.gif
Thinking back about Ageia Physx Card, the card itself didn't gain any profits for them because the card is simply not a neccesity for people... blink.gif
Nvidia and ATi has specialties of their own, Nvidia got CUDA and ATi, well their HD4xxx and HD3xxx are quite successful due to their performance and low budget price compared to Nvidia,,,,, icon_idea.gif

BTW, no offense though... cool2.gif

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Oct 11 2008, 05:57 PM)
So better get Nvidia instead of ATI??
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I think PhysX is a joke. Get any HD4800 series. Trust me.
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post Oct 11 2008, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Oct 11 2008, 05:57 PM)
So better get Nvidia instead of ATI??
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yes if u want to see the CPU score in 3D Mark Vantage to fly...

else it's pretty useless...

physics is more beneficial in consoles i think... most games that support physics are console games...
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post Oct 11 2008, 08:22 PM

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physx makes you fun when gaming.
just like crytek using their own physx to make crysis .
so nvidia physx don't support all games , a few.

you support ati then buy ati , support nvidia then give them a try.

just get your 4870 dude , dont think about physx bla bla. its overkilled now.
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post Oct 11 2008, 08:26 PM

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most of new games nowadays got their own physX built in via engine...

so what the hell physX for....? for marketing purposes of course...

just get the HD 4870 monster, you won't regret it... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 11 2008, 05:36 PM)
LOL.

IBM wasn't ditched in favour of Intel. It was the other way round. IBM simply couldn't care about the MAC...when you monopolized the market for all 3 next gen console, which will amount to tens of millions each year in CPU quantity alone. This in turn piss off Steve Jobs who then 'ditched' IBM becoz IBM is simply ignoring their requests and not willing to negotiate with Apple and rather focus their resources on the big console contracts. After all, how many MACs can you sell a year?? LOL.

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yea, thats mostly because

"fear to change is the foundation of PC loyalty"

and thats the reason why till now i still using windows biggrin.gif
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post Oct 11 2008, 10:04 PM

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in future more games will make use of physx just a matter of time,for now just get a 4870 u wont regret it i didnt,all my games run fluid even my crysis on very high settings @ 1400x900 is still playable.
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post Oct 11 2008, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Oct 11 2008, 11:04 PM)
in future more games will make use of physx just a matter of time,for now just get a 4870 u wont regret it i didnt,all my games run fluid even my crysis on very high settings @ 1400x900 is still playable.
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dis is wat nvidia wan 2 do.
"the way it meant 2 be play"

but for now, physX is still kinda useless in real performance.
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PhysX can't even run decent on a SINGLE card.

You almost always need another backup, of which should be at least a 8800GT.
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post Oct 12 2008, 02:32 AM

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Or is it possible to use SLi board or any 2 slot PCI-E x16 board and use ATi card as primary and put nvidia card on the second slot for physx? Coz i had a tough time last time considering to buy a 4870X2 or GTX280. But i get the GTX280 in the end =_="" .


P/S : my GTX280 is faulty zzzzz too damn hot for 1 minute of gameplay reaching 105c......... need to exchange it.
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post Oct 12 2008, 11:33 AM

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ATi and Nvidia drivers never like each other...

u'll ve a though time fiddling with the drivers to make them work...
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post Oct 12 2008, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 12 2008, 12:33 PM)
ATi and Nvidia drivers never like each other...

u'll ve a though time fiddling with the drivers to make them work...
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my windows xp i install both drivers.
sometime swap between hd 4870 & 8400gs.
works fine 4 me.

plug in both card also no problem.
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post Oct 12 2008, 06:16 PM

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I think Nvidia perform better in Crysis than ATI..
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post Oct 12 2008, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Oct 12 2008, 06:16 PM)
I think Nvidia perform better in Crysis than ATI..
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that's becuz Crysis is heavily optimized for Nvidia drivers...
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post Oct 19 2008, 12:11 AM

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Nvidia features have blind me...but i think ATI is all about speed and Nvidia have less speed but deliver more features and quality. Is that so??
Btw, Nvidia website is fancy than ATI biggrin.gif

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before Nvidia talks speed , ATI talks image quality.
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Oct 19 2008, 12:11 AM)
Nvidia features have blind me...but i think ATI is all about speed and Nvidia have less speed but deliver more features and quality. Is that so??
Btw, Nvidia website is fancy than ATI biggrin.gif
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@bold statement,
you are doing it wrong,

u need to google out more to see what nvidia did with their driver in order to gain more performance during gameplay laugh.gif

anyway, click on my siggy, to see the difference between ATI and NVIDIA in term of Image Quality wink.gif

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