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 Property in Economy Crisis, What will happen to property market?

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Pai
post Oct 11 2008, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(toto4d @ Oct 11 2008, 10:06 AM)
Planning to buy a property soon, just think whether now is the right time.
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IMO, now is a good time to buy mid-end segment properties due to :

1. Currently its a buyers market, can choose and nego as u wish.

2. Panic selling does happen occasionally due to global stock downturn. I see more bargains in the market today compared to 6 months ago.

3. Financing rate is at its all time low and banks have still have appetite to lend. In US now even the price drop by 50℅, banks refuse to lend.

4. We now have an influx of expats from middle east to increase our expat tenant n buyer pool.

5. Min 70℅ of all future launch will be high end props and it will only make mid-end properties more desirable due to decrease in supply.

Just remember to buy below market, and pick the RIGHT location. Myself last week just sealed another acquisition and looking to close another next week, hopefully smile.gif

Caveat : if u have tones of cash and can afford a property without financing help, then u should wait until mid-2009 then only buy.
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post Oct 13 2008, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Lng @ Oct 13 2008, 10:50 AM)
However, if BNM revised the BLR upwards then you may see house price decrease cos demand will reduce.
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Totally agree.

However, the key word here is "if". Should this happen, BNM will effectively kill off our domestic sentiment for good, and we wont recover until the next 2 years.

I for one anticipate the opposite will happen by end of this year. wink.gif


Added on October 13, 2008, 2:28 pm
QUOTE(Moneylust @ Oct 12 2008, 09:42 PM)
Studio King Pai,

Out of curiosity, where are your latest two acquistions located? I doubt you bought a Casa Tiara unit though  wink.gif
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boss, PMed you smile.gif

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post Oct 22 2008, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(rico_hard82 @ Oct 22 2008, 04:48 PM)
rite now the valuer are giving mkt value price lower from the market price ..
be advice to check the mkt value for the house b4 buying the house..
as not different bank will hv different mkt valuer & the value also different..
u cant use Bank A Mkt Valuer to take loan from Bank B & ect..

still not sure if the BNM will raise the BLR, but the bank will not continue their (-) interest spread for long now, myb BLR+0%...
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good advice.

In general, before u sign anything, make sure you have checked with a FEW banks the average value of the property you intend to buy. That way you'll know 1st hand if you overpaid OR u r getting a bargain and how much loan can you get wink.gif

On the interest spread, doubt it will ever go back to BLR + spread, unless BNM interferes......... rolleyes.gif


Added on October 22, 2008, 7:28 pm
QUOTE(Pai @ Oct 22 2008, 07:28 PM)
good advice.

In general, before u sign anything, make sure you have checked with a FEW banks the average value of the property you intend to buy. That way you'll know 1st hand if you overpaid OR u r getting a bargain and how much loan can you get  wink.gif

On the interest spread, doubt it will ever go back to BLR + spread, unless BNM interferes......... rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 24 2008, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(toto4d @ Oct 23 2008, 09:07 PM)
Guy,
I am considering to purchase a unit at U1 Residence Suite in Shah Alam. The unit is 1100ft2, total price at 350k, will be completed at 2011.
I got loan offer for 300k at BLR -2.2%.

The purpose is for investment (gain rental mainly, hopefully there is appreciation), but i really doubt whether i should go on looking at current market.

Any advice?
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for Shah Alam area, thats really expensive. shakehead.gif


Added on October 24, 2008, 1:04 am
QUOTE(KeNNy @ Oct 23 2008, 09:59 PM)
I'm actually curious as well. We have an oversupply of houses even before this economic downturn - yet prices are still high.
Part of me believes it a speculation theory that's keeping demand high, and invetibly property prices artifically high.
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Hi Kenny, we used to have oversupply of CRAP properties. Properties in good locations are always limited in suppply due to high demand and vice-versa.

Now, I feel that we have oversupply of "high-end" properties and correction will be due soon.

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post Oct 27 2008, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 26 2008, 10:52 PM)

2) This one is even worse than the 97/98 crisis.

Dreamer
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And can you care to elaborate why is that so?

Or have you mistaken Malaysia for US?
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post Oct 27 2008, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(cody99 @ Oct 27 2008, 10:36 AM)
Till now I don't see heavy URGENT SALES / FORECLOSURE.
I guess it will impact when retrenchment happen.
Many mid income earner got burn in share but still able to hold on on the property.
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You are right. Despite KLCI and global market plunges, houses pricing are still holding up. U will find decrease in asking price for high end properties(klcc, MK, and bangsar) in the next 3 months onwards.

Actually, speaking of retrenchment, anyone heard any coys layong of their staffs? I know many MNC now freeze new hires, but have not any heard any massive scale firing going on. My frens in SG having sleepless nights now.


Added on October 27, 2008, 11:04 pm
QUOTE(arsenal @ Oct 27 2008, 05:24 AM)
wait and see lor.....heheheheh...smile.gif....if company retrench we can get VSS right???can go clubbing liao...
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Hehehe,sound like a good plan to aleviate the pain tongue.gif


Added on October 27, 2008, 11:23 pm
QUOTE(a6meister @ Oct 27 2008, 11:28 AM)
we indeed is in recession now. not a good sign.

property market for now ? to me, i will not even get any closer to it. simplicity saying, get rid of it.

i am selling a property off now. But, seems like, i wont be able to make it through. the price that i am selling, actually is a negative.

HEADACHE.
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Boss, in terms of timing, you could not pick a worst time to sell.

Btw,this property of yours, can give more info:
1. Development name
2. Your selling price
3. Rental p/m

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post Oct 29 2008, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(a6meister @ Oct 28 2008, 10:18 AM)
Well, you are right, should not sell if the time is not right. You could say that i am actually selling at the wrong timing. But, to me this property does not worth to keep.

Ok, this is a shophouse. Located in SITIAWAN, my hometown. It is the place which considered as the top producer of swifnests and swiftlet farming.

Since i am staying in KL, I dont think i have the time and effort to take care of this property or even run a business there.

ROI is terrible. 3 storeys shoplot only yield 1750 rental a month, and dont forget, about 1k alone out of 1750 is for bank interest only.

purchased at 485k.
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U r right, this is not worth investing in. To me, its not really a problem of timing, the real problem here lies in the location.

Out of curiosity, why buy this shophouse in the 1st place knowing the ROI is terrible?
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post Dec 5 2008, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(vincentlee @ Dec 5 2008, 04:07 AM)

by the way how much cash is considered tons of cash? (is 1 million in FD enough) mid-range properties RM300~RM500k will be much cheaper by mid 2009?
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tons of cash : min 30% of the property value u wanted to buy. Better still if you can pay 100% cash.

A fren of mine bought a property 25% below market 3 months ago bcoz he bought it cash from a desparate seller. His rental yield for the said property today is 13.5%. shocking.gif


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