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XiuKeong
post Oct 12 2008, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(glozz @ Oct 12 2008, 12:10 AM)
Don't mind him; he's just jealous that I don't foul and yet I can save 1-on-1s.  tongue.gif

But what Meganova said is corrrect; that is more or less it. However; timing is very crucial.
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Hmm. That's one in my practice book. But I kinda like saving those low shots with my leg. React faster.
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post Oct 12 2008, 01:11 AM

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hey, anyone here wanna join MyRawk's futsal team, just send me a PM. or chk out our futsal thread on www.my-rawk.com. cheers...
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post Oct 12 2008, 01:26 AM

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Haven't you guys stolen enough players? Still not enough?


Added on October 12, 2008, 1:27 am
QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Oct 12 2008, 12:26 AM)
Hmm. That's one in my practice book. But I kinda like saving those low shots with my leg. React faster.
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Using legs leave too many gaps.

This post has been edited by glozz: Oct 12 2008, 01:27 AM
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post Oct 12 2008, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(blackcode @ Oct 11 2008, 10:58 PM)
futsal is based on stamina..i seen a team which use their stamina 100%..doin roaming and move around like they hv two lungs..nvr stop moving and thus ,making the other team exhausted..in the end,winning with a great margin.
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two lungs. Dont we all have two lungs? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 12 2008, 03:11 AM

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post Oct 12 2008, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(bkfeng89 @ Oct 12 2008, 02:06 AM)
two lungs. Dont we all have two lungs? biggrin.gif
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hahahaha..ok then..how bout 4..good enuff?
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post Oct 12 2008, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(glozz @ Oct 12 2008, 01:26 AM)
Haven't you guys stolen enough players? Still not enough?
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haha, u dun wan 2 join us?? brows.gif
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post Oct 12 2008, 10:58 PM

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post Oct 13 2008, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(blackcode @ Oct 12 2008, 07:24 PM)
hahahaha..ok then..how bout 4..good enuff?
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Good spot by bkfeng! Haha.

Yeah, if you've seen professional futsal players play, there's hell lots of movement. Because the pitch is only this big, players are always scrambling for position and looking for a better place to receive the ball. Its extremely technical and i'm amazed at the amount of passing these teams make, for example Spain and Argentina. I'd say, futsal players run much more than football players for the amount of time they spent on the pitch. Thats why futsal players have unlimited rolling sub.

Sadly, the way we futsal noobs plays is very much football style. Player gets the ball, runs at defenders, tries to dribble past them and shoot when there's a chance. But i've seen some good local teams that can really pass the ball, they're patient in the build up and can string together quite a few passes before taking the final shot.
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post Oct 13 2008, 12:27 AM

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Today just had a futsal match smile.gif

It was tiring !! no substitution for 1.5hours... the fellow who mark me, is faster than me, always out pace me, ahhhh, stamina is damn important...

about patient football, where passing is a priority rather than gets the ball and dribble past them... actually all of us wants to see that... it just depends on how your teammates runs...
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post Oct 13 2008, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(jason18689 @ Oct 13 2008, 12:27 AM)
Today just had a futsal match smile.gif

It was tiring !! no substitution for 1.5hours... the fellow who mark me, is faster than me, always out pace me, ahhhh, stamina is damn important...

about patient football, where passing is a priority rather than gets the ball and dribble past them... actually all of us wants to see that... it just depends on how your teammates runs...
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If you've constantly been marked, try to run to more open spaces. If your marker seem to follow you wherever you go(like Digi yellow man), you're indirectly opening space for your team mate to strike. Well thats good team play if you ask me but i doubt your marker would follow every single step you take coz he would have other things to do also.

Another way to shake him off is to play one touch passes. I've played with some really huge ex classmates, at least 15-20Kg heavier than me whereby i can definitely outrun them but these huge guys make up their lack of pace with some really good one touch passing. Plus, their shots pack a punch, something like a rocket shot, so we kinda even out each other and try to play to our advantage.

I see where you're coming with friends who tend to get the ball, dribble ala kampung style. Cant do much about it, except to make yourself available in a good spot and if he doesnt pass to you, shout at him. People learn the hard way. Thats why its important to join the bunch of futsal kaki who will play in the same wavelength.

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post Oct 13 2008, 11:26 AM

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and of course same skill level biggrin.gif
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post Oct 13 2008, 11:42 AM

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Well its difficult to find all the kaki in the same skill level. I mean everyone differs in terms of skills, passing and shooting. But you need to have the kaki that is on the same wavelength, able to cover each other and ultimately everyone must do their job on the pitch.

Likewise, in the LYN group, everyone has their strong points. Some are sharp shooters, some pass the ball well, some are good keepers, some are divers. We shout at each other sometimes but its all for the good of the game.
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post Oct 13 2008, 11:58 AM

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i may not be falcao or mourad boukhari... but through my experiences playing football and futsal, there's some opinions i'd love to share wit ya guys...

1. Never berlagak like you're the one that only knows how to play futsal and go on sighing at every mistake a team mate makes. Remember that you make mistakes too. Instead, give him a boost.

2. Always communicate with others on ur team, even if ur not familiar wit him (or her..lol).

3. Pass and you shall be passed to.

4. Sometimes if a team mate does a solo run and end up wasting the chance, dun *** him kau kau. instead go "Nice one bro, next time i'll support if ya need help"

5. If playing to improve, be serious about it but with a smile... If playing for fun then dun care laa... I personally think partners who keep laughing non stop or not serious kinda demotivates the serious players...

yea this is just some of what i think and especially have experienced while playing with the LYN futsal team the last time out... i shall also give credit to mr.miketee as i find him a good futsaller as he distributes the ball and supports attacks well...
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post Oct 13 2008, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(millenia3000 @ Oct 13 2008, 11:58 AM)
i may not be falcao or mourad boukhari... but through my experiences playing football and futsal, there's some opinions i'd love to share wit ya guys...

1. Never berlagak like you're the one that only knows how to play futsal and go on sighing at every mistake a team mate makes. Remember that you make mistakes too. Instead, give him a boost.

2. Always communicate with others on ur team, even if ur not familiar wit him (or her..lol).

3. Pass and you shall be passed to.

4. Sometimes if a team mate does a solo run and end up wasting the chance, dun *** him kau kau. instead go "Nice one bro, next time i'll support if ya need help"

5. If playing to improve, be serious about it but with a smile... If playing for fun then dun care laa... I personally think partners who keep laughing non stop or not serious kinda demotivates the serious players...

yea this is just some of what i think and especially have experienced while playing with the LYN futsal team the last time out... i shall also give credit to mr.miketee as i find him a good futsaller as he distributes the ball and supports attacks well...
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This is a good advice covering the mentality part of the futsal game. Always have a clear head and keep it cool. Having a good positive mentality will enable a futsaller to be always consistent and not playing under pressure or frustration.

Still having my flu and cough... *sigh* has been almost 1 week+ ed...

This post has been edited by ken0777: Oct 13 2008, 12:46 PM
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post Oct 13 2008, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Meganova @ Oct 11 2008, 02:10 PM)
Well, I play as GK in futsal. I always have problem when opponent did a high lob passing, then it lands on their players chest, he then turns and volley straight with full power. How to block the shot? The process happened too fast and I easily concede goals when it comes to this situation. By the way, I dived a lot when I save balls, is it good?
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The ball travel less than 2 seconds in the air during a lob. If you are facing problem.. you are standing too near to your goal line.
The player most likely is at their own half for the ball to travel that fast. If he is in your half.. you defender must be dreaming for him to be able to lob to chest level.

Second... you position and the player who is holding the ball is wrong and bad position. you must have clear line of sight infront of your D.. if you don't you can't cut infront of the player who is going to chest the ball... And all this .. you must be protecting a direct shot of 50% of the goal...


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QUOTE(ken0777 @ Oct 13 2008, 12:44 PM)
This is a good advice covering the mentality part of the futsal game. Always have a clear head and keep it cool. Having a good positive mentality will enable a futsaller to be always consistent and not playing under pressure or frustration.

Still having my flu and cough... *sigh* has been almost 1 week+ ed...
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hence eliminating the dominant male competition in a game of futsal... notice many players out there "over" show enthusiasm... pissin off own team mates in the process...

really respect players who are good... and understand others' weaknesses... i mean... you gotta admit... surely damn angry when see a team mate waste a chance... or din receive a ball properly... but when one actually sees the mistake and suggests how to correct it, it works even better then just going "wei...like that so easy oso cannot ah you!"...


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post Oct 13 2008, 01:16 PM

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Hello everybody! I can see that this topic thread has been picking up some heat since it was just started last week. Looks like there's a huge support from forumers and also futsal fans in making this thread alive, fiery and HOT! Keep the comments and ideas coming in.

Since nobody has covered the formation part of the futsal game. Here's my take on it.

Playing futsal with a formation is as important as in playing in a normal football game. All the time, we often hear about formations in football, be it 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-1-2-1-2. Futsal also have it's formation with it's 4 players. YES! 4 players can have it's formation. In fact, lesser the amount of player, lesser the amount of formation possibilities (Simple maths probability).

Below i'm going share the 2 basic and most common formation in futsal, which is the:-
1. Box Shape (2-2) Formation
2. Diamond Shape (1-2-1) Formation

And also the 2 basic formation for attacking and defending, which is the:-
3. ATT Y-Shape (1-1-2) Formation
4. DEF Y-Shape (2-1-1) Formation


1. Box Shape (2-2) Formation

Below is a picture on how this formation looks like
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2 down players supporting each other while the other 2 top players will either drop down to support or just wait to receive a threat ball pass to them.

Pros:
1.This formation is simple and most of the time used by alot of teams. Pretty like a default formation for all beginners.
2. 2 man below can compliment each other by passing between themselves whenever an opponent is coming to attempt to steal the ball or to release the pass to your flanks.
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3. 2 man below can attempt to create a 1-2 run to dominate the middle area of the court
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Once the 1-2 pass is completed, basically you have modified the formation from a Box-Shape (2-2) Formation to a Y-shape (1-1-2) Formation.

Cons:
1. Passing dependent. Especially accurate short passes.
2. Need to wait and lure your opponent players to your half of your side.
3. Very dependent on your other teammates to run into open spaces to either play a 1-2 pass back to him or to create a dummy run for you to pass to your 2 top players ontop.

2. Diamond Shape (1-2-1) Formation

Below is a picture on how this formation looks like
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1 fix player playing the holding down position with 2 flankers and 1 top pivot striker.

Pros:
1. Flexible for the last man to release the ball to his flankers.
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2. This formation provides space to move.

Cons:
1. Heavy pressure to the last man may result in the last man losing possession and give chance to the opponent to score
2. Dependable on the last man to be able to execute precise threat balls to his flankers
3. Dependable on the flankers to lost their marker for the last man to release the ball.

*continue on my next post*

This post has been edited by ken0777: Oct 13 2008, 03:41 PM
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omg guys, the thread has been moving too fast. haha
So it kinda obvious that, Malaysian these days are more into futsal biggrin.gif
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post Oct 13 2008, 02:32 PM

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Well.. I dun think the box formation is good..

It won't work for amatuer futsal players...or even semi-pro...

The problem is .. ppl who use this formation don't know how to utilise this formation.

1. 100% of lower than amatuer futsal player don't pass back.
2. 80% of amatuer futsal player dun know how to square the ball.. worst for class below it
3. 70 % of semi pro player do not pass to the middle fearing the ball of being intercept.
4. 60 % of semi pro player unable to cross wing naturally.
5. 50 % of all players playing on top don't tackle from the top.
6. 40 % only able cross a hard drill across the D
7. 30 % of players are capable of shooting with their left foot.
8. 10 % of player are willing to wait and lure players.
9. And nobody cares about covering each other.

Instead trying flat four or ... 3-1 formations which provides better results....

This post has been edited by ponomariov: Oct 13 2008, 02:35 PM

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