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ham_revilo
post Mar 3 2009, 08:25 AM

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noob question here.

whats the difference between WD cavier blue and WD cavier green?

i know the green is for power saving. but in term of reliability and performance, which is better? im worried if i were to get a 1TB WD drive, if it wont last then all the data will be gone sad.gif

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post Mar 3 2009, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(december88 @ Mar 3 2009, 09:26 AM)
Hey i have the 1 TB WD Green, is quiet and reliable to be honoest, sometimes if the drive nvr booted quite long it takes long time to copy and paste. But after "warm up" then's reasonable speed. Watch out for a 2 platters(500GB each) 1TB WD Green coming out in a few months time. My model has a 3 platter(333GB each). Less platter less noice and less energy comsuption. Anyway i'm happy with my harddisk just for storage and watching movies.
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but i usually leave my pc on all the time. im worried it wouldnt last long. to be honest, i had quite a bad experience with WD previously. but that was quite a long time ago. just recently i heard how seagate hdd is not as reliable like last time so i decided to swift to WD.

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post Mar 3 2009, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(december88 @ Mar 3 2009, 02:50 PM)
Oh up too you lo, so far here in Aussie is ok for me. Probably becoz of the cool weather lately. Only problem is the copy and paste so slow, when long time nvr boot up. Btw i'm using it as an external harddisk.
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thanks alot for the info. i think i might get 1TB green brows.gif

btw, could it be slow because you are using it as external? i mean using USB should be slower than using direct sata right? no?

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post Mar 4 2009, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(december88 @ Mar 4 2009, 01:55 PM)
Haha not sure man, i think after 10 mins boot up, the copy and paste works fine. Anyway i'm happy with my HDD, just for storage and watching movies, no need crazy fast spinning speed.
Anyway the new 1Tb is better than the previous one, since 3 platters, or you could wait few months from now for a 2 platters model, should be cheaper i think, coz i bought mine for RM350 was really cheap for me personally.
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yup i think crazy speed is not a necessity for me. all i want is a harddisk that can store my data and wouldnt fail in a short period. im really worried my current seagate will fail anytime due to firmware problem. i think i might consider the 2 platters model hmm.gif hopefully my seagate dont fail me during that time laugh.gif
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post May 14 2009, 12:38 PM

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one question here,

WD cavier black and green. which is more reliable? both 1TB. i need to replace my seagate crapacuda which fails me just after a several months sweat.gif
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post May 15 2009, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ May 14 2009, 01:50 PM)
If it was that easy, you would also know that the Seagate Crapacuda was crap months ago. tongue.gif

Until somebody gathers statistics on thousands of hard disks across a wide variety of users, do the analysis and publish the results, all you will get for asking this question is random luck.

Here's three pieces of advice coming from Google's R&D. One, if a hard disk is good in the first three months, it is likely to be good for most of its expected lifespan. Two, SMART, as it is, does not help much in predicting hard disk failures. Three, hard disk load is not a good predictor in hard disk failure.
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still i dont understand how does it relate on which should i buy? i know seagate hdd was crap months ago but i check and my hdd wasnt affected. anyway i want to replace it but im not sure which HDD to choose. Cavier black or green hmm.gif

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post May 15 2009, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ May 15 2009, 12:53 AM)
You shouldn't replace it if it is unaffected. And if it has already lasted more than three months, then it has passed Google's rule-of-thumb for hard disk reliability, making it is slightly more valuable than a fresh and untested hard disk.

If you intend to use the hard disks for mass storage (audio/video, images) then the Green is a good option because it performs well and is cheaper. If you need the most possible performance from a 1+ TB hard disk (gaming, OS), then you should take the Black.
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yeah i know i shouldnt replace the firmware but then there is nothing i can do besides that. weird thing is that, after i updated to SD1A, windows is able to detect if for few minutes. so in order to backup my data, i need to transfer a few files/folder at a time before the HDD goes haywire again then i need to restart my pc again and start over. been doing this since yesterday in order to backup all my files doh.gif sweat.gif

anyway, i think i'll go with black and i'll make a partition for my main drive (c drive) then the rest for storage, plus i'll install my games in it. do you think thats okay?
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post May 16 2009, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(M.A.A @ May 15 2009, 03:14 PM)
ok,if i choose to do 2 partition on 640gb,then what it will be??
OS:Storage
20:80 or 30:70
which is good for long term??

sorry to ask such a really2 noob question..
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i think both also okay coz doesnt make much difference smile.gif

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post May 17 2009, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ May 16 2009, 03:10 PM)
ned some help advice on 2 hdd.....

i'm using 160gb atm and going to buy a WD 640gb hdd.....
my concern is...how should i set up d hdd??will it be any problem bcoz of 2 hdd?

i wanted to make my 640gb bcom my primary (C/D/E drive) and 160gb(F/G drive)........

will this cause any problem??do i ned to follow some procedure??

in need of advice from the sifu sifu here...tq very much!!
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try using this Acronis Disk Director Suite 10.0. i use it to do partition, re-labeling, format and so much more. the best thing is you can do it in windows smile.gif


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post May 17 2009, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(chanws8 @ May 17 2009, 08:27 PM)
Ya,im using Acronis too...It works very good to me, at least better than partition magic which cant support vista...  sad.gif
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one question here, can i re-label my OS drive? is it possible? coz i have a new cavier black (Currently E drive) and i wanna use it as OS drive. so im planning to re-label my current C drive then change my E to C. confusing rclxub.gif

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post May 17 2009, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(chanws8 @ May 17 2009, 08:57 PM)
For re-label drive, u dont need Acronis... Juz right click My Computer > Manage > Storage > Disk Management > right click the drive u want to re-lable > Change Drive Letter...

Hope this can help u...  smile.gif
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yup i know that. just that im worried if i re-label my OS drive (C: drive), my OS will be corrupted. will that happen?

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post May 18 2009, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 17 2009, 10:31 PM)
1.5TB seagate which batches have problem?
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iirc, only 500gb and 1Tb is affected with the firmware problem. 1.5Tb i dont think its affected but not sure if it has any other problem tongue.gif laugh.gif

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post Jun 20 2009, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(alifhezrey93 @ Jun 20 2009, 08:19 AM)
samsung hdd is good brand?
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iirc,, samsung hdd rma rate is quite high smile.gif

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post Oct 10 2009, 01:31 PM

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to be honest, after using black, i dont think there is a huge difference. yes, its a lil faster but i think it wont be significant and not to mention is hotter.
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post Oct 20 2009, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(fulim1410 @ Oct 20 2009, 03:05 PM)
Hi there,just want to ask. Recently my hdd acting weirdly. It is a not so old HDD, lifespan < 6 month (1TB WD Green). The problem is that it will random lockup and I need to remove the SATA cable and power up and the HDD will produce a spinning sound. Then power off and reinsert back the SATA cable and it will boot nicely into the windows. If I did not do the remove sata process it will just loading at the windows XP screen like forever. Any advice beside backup the data(currently slowly doing it)? It is driving me crazy all my data is in this HDD and I want to know what is happening.My old maxtor HD >3 years did not even have this kind of problem.
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it could probably be a faulty unit. try downloading hdd diagnostics software to test run it. but then still you need to backup your data just in case your hdd crash in the process smile.gif

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post Oct 21 2009, 08:19 PM

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haha....

i cant read chinese man doh.gif

but i suppose its about the failure rate of hdd? but i spotted maxtor and WD brand. some i dont know how to read and some like SpinPoint, i havent heard about it laugh.gif
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post Oct 23 2009, 06:52 PM

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imo, ssd are merely used for loading windows and maybe some heavy software application. i think its not a good idea to spend so much just for storage. to me, 160gb is more than enough for windows smile.gif
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QUOTE(kInOzAwA @ Oct 23 2009, 07:13 PM)
laugh.gif everybody got their opinion, for me even 1TB is still not enough for the windows... I'm more into the multimedia stuff and it really takes a lot of space besides i kept too many songs inside the hdd too...  tongue.gif
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i think you got me wrong bro smile.gif

what i meant is 160gb ssd for windows. for storage and everything else all on normal hdd. i recommend WD green tongue.gif

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post Oct 24 2009, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(nkarul85 @ Oct 24 2009, 12:47 PM)
usually how long RMA hardisk>???


Added on October 24, 2009, 12:50 pmusually how long RMA hardisk>???
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it really depends on what brand is it.

for me i know seagate (M-Link) rma is around 2 weeks at most. WD iinm, you have to send it back to singapore. for samsung and hitachi im not sure smile.gif

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post Oct 26 2009, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(naith @ Oct 26 2009, 04:47 PM)
between Caviar Green and Caviar Black, which would you recommend for use for downloading torrents and watching movies?
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easy. go for green. from my experience, black performance doesnt show any significant difference from green (performance). iinm, for normal usage like you mention, green is the way to go because, it has lower temp compared to black and not to mention, greener tongue.gif

btw, my cavier black temp is around 40c even on idle. and if you look at Loki[D.d.G] link, the temperature difference between black and green is around 10c

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