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Oct 21 2021, 05:14 PM
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Supermax holder must be pain today 😓
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Oct 21 2021, 06:44 PM
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Oct 23 2021, 12:26 AM
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![]() ![]() Nitrile glove price in september 2021 is cheaper than april 2020. increased in volume could mean gained market share from other countries. For u.s market, nitrile glove took 15 months from april 2020 price to reach peak price and 3 months to drop below april 2020 price. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Oct 23 2021, 01:19 AM |
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Oct 28 2021, 02:20 PM
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RM 2 soon...
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Oct 28 2021, 06:36 PM
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Nov 2 2021, 09:35 PM
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Top Glove sits on RM860 mil paper loss on massive share buyback
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/top-...e-share-buyback It is a matter of time, topg need to realize this loss in p&l. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Nov 2 2021, 09:44 PM |
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Nov 4 2021, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 2 2021, 09:35 PM) Top Glove sits on RM860 mil paper loss on massive share buyback 2022 is a good year to declare since Government introduce on off prosperity tax for FY 2022https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/top-...e-share-buyback It is a matter of time, topg need to realize this loss in p&l. |
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Nov 4 2021, 05:33 PM
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Nov 4 2021, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(sjteh @ Nov 4 2021, 05:33 PM) he may already know even before announcement CEO himself started buying his own stock at 2.6 https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/lim-...-dips-below-rm3 |
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Nov 4 2021, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Nov 4 2021, 05:54 PM) he may already know even before announcement Considered old news ya since that was Sep article. CEO himself started buying his own stock at 2.6 https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/lim-...-dips-below-rm3 He's not a good indicator as his own purchases of Top Glove shares is sitting on paper losses of close to 150 million. Ya. That bad. And he's another perfect example on why one should think twice about following a ceo own share purchases. Many a times, these ceo thinks they are smarter than the market... sadly many times they also lose big time. And in regards to share buybacks.. I am not an accountant but I dont recall any company ever marking their share buybacks to market prices. Hence, they cannot claim such losses. ( pls feel free to correct me on this point) This post has been edited by Boon3: Nov 4 2021, 06:42 PM |
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Nov 4 2021, 06:45 PM
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Nov 4 2021, 07:10 PM
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Nov 4 2021, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 4 2021, 06:41 PM) Considered old news ya since that was Sep article. you have a trader's mindset. But remember, the CEO of his own company is not a trader He's not a good indicator as his own purchases of Top Glove shares is sitting on paper losses of close to 150 million. Ya. That bad. And he's another perfect example on why one should think twice about following a ceo own share purchases. Many a times, these ceo thinks they are smarter than the market... sadly many times they also lose big time. And in regards to share buybacks.. I am not an accountant but I dont recall any company ever marking their share buybacks to market prices. Hence, they cannot claim such losses. ( pls feel free to correct me on this point) |
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Nov 4 2021, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Nov 4 2021, 07:27 PM) Did you follow how he bought back his shares? I did. The shares buyback was insane. Then, he used Tropicana to purchase his shares. Only then he used his own money. At current price, all these shares have lost more than one billion already.Yes, I am a trader. Do not judge the messenger but the content of the message itself, ya. |
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Nov 4 2021, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 4 2021, 07:37 PM) Did you follow how he bought back his shares? I did. The shares buyback was insane. Then, he used Tropicana to purchase his shares. Only then he used his own money. At current price, all these shares have lost more than one billion already. the problem is when the messenger injects his own viewpoint into the message, he becomes a biased messenger Yes, I am a trader. Do not judge the messenger but the content of the message itself, ya. cucumber liked this post
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Nov 4 2021, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Nov 4 2021, 07:40 PM) the problem is when the messenger injects his own viewpoint into the message, he becomes a biased messenger Haha.. of course. You have your point. So have you followed how the company bought back its shares last year? This would be a relevant issue right? This post has been edited by Boon3: Nov 4 2021, 07:50 PM |
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Nov 4 2021, 07:55 PM
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Nov 4 2021, 07:56 PM
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Nov 4 2021, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 4 2021, 07:55 PM) a CEO "indulge in stock market" vs a CEO buying his own company shares are two very different things. The motivations are very different.for the record, all the big 4 glove companies have made stock buybacks, just to varying degrees cucumber liked this post
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Nov 4 2021, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Nov 4 2021, 07:56 PM) from the article that you shared, the company said that it is not a paper loss, so would it be an issue? Well, you be the judge based on the following facts yourself.The company has splashed out 1.412 billion on share buybacks. Average price of those buybacks is 7.13. The shares closed the other day at 2.49. Which means those share buybacks is now worth only 492.843 million. These share buybacks is now worth 919.6 million less.... So how would you define this 919.6 million? Gone? Evaporated? Lost? bill11 liked this post
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