erm... dono can consider hobby or not. @.@ maybe it is ba la. but i wont say that. lol



ermm... this is very true. in fact dota all day will ruin ur health. that is the huge diff of Esport and sport.

ermm... u misunderstand me. i nvr misunderstand u.
in deed there is nothing wrong that making hobby as career, but whatever i said in my previous post doesnt trying to deliver the msg that "there is nothing wrong making hobby as career". what im trying to say is "there is nothing wrong making hobby as career if only u hav the capability".
ur msg i totally get it. "we should consider our career maturely and don suffer later". if u would refer back my post, i said some people just dont know how to think. they wont see things far like some of us. like chinese said "can pass 1 day, kira 1day lo". they are sort of such mentality. so thats why i said, pretty depends on individual to realise earlier or later on this matter. but whether earlier or later, they surely will realise it. at age 22-24 u still playing dota? seeing all ur friend earinig money? they surely will change.
badminton aint any better earning. reason pm said win a olympic champ can get 1 million is to push our althelic capabilities. is just like u in ur college last semester, ur dad say u get A for ur exam i buy u 1 ferrari. walao u tak pok meng meh? u tak pok meng, i pok meng lo. hahaha... sort of that. coz in the history, malaysia never ever get any medal in olympic. this is the strategy where pm try to boost our player morale. so this "get gold medal in olympic" actually doesnt only limited to badminton. any sport bring gold medal to msia will get 1mil. but of coz chong wei in deed dam power. he should hav a chance to fight for gold medal. but sadly he is too tired and not on form. but he still gain my respect.

ermm... what im saying about "rich fellow with no brain" not entirely say they are stupid. what i mean here is... hmm.. they are not matured enough to think like what Ern3st said, for their future. imagine someone play dota like mad. hard core, super hard core. play until age 27 still playing... not looking for any job. not good enuf to bring gamer life as career, just with normal skill always kena pwned. then always go cc main use dad/mom money go cc main main mian. ermm... that i would say... rich fellow with no brain. lol.. which rarely u will see. haha
but in my company there is 1 guy he just join my company about 7 months ago. when the moment he join, he is at 27 years old. and this is his 1st company in his life. ask him what he did in previous year after graduate, he said he play games for 5 years. and yea, he really macam game dictionary. no joke. lol.
but well, at least he move his 1st step. better than nothing.

This post has been edited by Core-: Oct 12 2008, 12:19 AM

I think that gaming do build up self esteem and makes someone feels good about himself after winning.
I was never a game lover neither will I be one. I am just not patient enough to play games.

Right now when I am typing this, my bf is playing dota with his friends.
Well, I never felt ashamed or happy when I say this to anyone.
I think that it is just guys' nature to be playing. Whether it is an outdoor or indoor game.
I only got annoyed once because he played for 6 hours straight. Things, no matter what should be done moderately. To me, 6 hours non stop is too much though it is only 6 rounds.

Haha, I am one of the girls that accompany her bf to the cc and watch him play.
I watch him play and try to understand what is he playing.
But it takes time to understand.
As a person with no patience, I always fell asleep in the cc. LOL!
I observe my bf when he plays. He looks very serious in everygame.
What draws my attention is the right wrist where you guys click on the mouse. I find that will hurt the wrist a lot. Not the hurt where you feel pain immediately, is the after effect hidden inside when you grow old. Will it hurt that way?

This post has been edited by cherylwong: Oct 12 2008, 01:43 AM

oh yes. u are very great gf that care ur bf and understandable.
and yes, what u worried is in deed exist.
i did some minor research about it.
is called carpal tunnel syndrome
u can google it. anything if u would like to discuss can pm me. i can help u ask my sis since she work as pharmacist.
i quite worry about this too. so i kinda start thinking how to design my desk in future ady. lol. still in my mind, still dam rough. hahaha... i memang cant avoid pc de... work also in front pc. haiz. >_> lol

Although what i'm gonna say has nothing to do with Dota...

but i've got a new toy poodle puppy, so happy! Weeee! lol !

yeah...even ppl like us working in the office will face this prob...like what core said,either you design your desk to a certain height comfartable for your posture or you gotta hold the mouse properly...but the posture to hold the mouse properly you gotta get used to it...hard to do that actually,imagine tryin to pawn enemy and thinking bout body postures at the same time

This post has been edited by icyfawkes: Oct 12 2008, 02:18 PM

Seriously what's so bad about gaming yo??
But of course, we have to give it the right balance lor!~
Like Yin and Yang~~
I'm a gamer myself, not the hardcore ones though..
As long as you manage your time right, then no problem!~
Tht's all from me, see ya peeps!~

haha. gratz

gives u the feel u cant get in real life.

if u know what that feel is, it is Attention, victory, sucess, etc.( not applied for everything)
it gives u the feel to be a hero, and at the first time in their life, win somebody.


puts forth that the addiction to computer games can be caused by psychological problems such as antisocial personality disorder, depression, and phobias such as social phobia. He believes that many addicts want a way to escape reality and then find that they can create a whole new persona on an online game and live their life through their new online personality

Through this they can start to like fantasy life more than reality due to newfound friends and power, and thus, refuse to be drawn away from it.
(from wiki)
newspaper article or reader digest why majority of gamers addicted to on9 game cause it gives them a sense of feeling of somebody knowing ur existance. it gives u the feel that u exist in life. teenage is the phrase where attention>everything. u want attention no matter what.

those lenglui all already got so much attention until they dont need other thing. but some ppl who are ignored in society, because they arent good enough for society, need to resort to on9 games to give them a feeling of sucess. maybe is a kid who cant win in sport, who suck in studies, and cant talk to girls, he will resort to on9 games like maplestory of etc for the attention.

Well,before flaming me, im not applying this to everybody. if u open ur eyes wide enough, u will understand.



This post has been edited by BelowAverage: Oct 13 2008, 09:28 PM

@ belowaverage

so u r saying its a guys thing? But though some r true... i don't think all guys will think like this la..

why can't it be a girl's thing as well? i like dota, eventhough i suck at it. LEARN LA GIRLS, don't portray yourself as only with girlie personalities with no skills.

Girls can game too. I suppose.

Hell Yeahhh!
There aren't no boundaries in the gaming world!~

I play too much of online game.

and im a girl >.> which sucks coz some people might not get it u know. like "why the hell would u play games .. and be such an antisocial" lol. well i admit i couldnt balance my life that much. (im trying tho, and now im making my online friends worried) for not being on that much like before.

2. im strange enough to be interested in watching a game.

but of course, play in moderation la. if he's to play 24/7,i'll probably get ultra annoyed. "another game. just one more game" grrr! *crack knuckles

*raises hands*

i play games too !

waiting to be pawned by a girl player...
c',mon girls...try to pawn us if you can...muahahah!!!

i quited dota 2 years ago lol. i played becos after working hours everyone in company connect to each pc to dota.

after leaving that company i quited as well. mostly the reason i playing game is becos of multiplayer game since i can play with my friend.

game is something created so you won`t be bored when you have extra time. not worth attracted to a stage where you playing it non stop.

LOL, i love watching games too.

i love those sci-fi FPS shooter games like half life 2 where u see those big alien walking by you!

those guys are damn creative!!!

ppl who create games like half life ,crysis, COD are all very smart people who calculate the physic to create perfect enviroment!

too bad i cant play FPS cause i will get dizzy

quite a lot research did for the purpose of "debating" lawl~~~
no one is flaming u. don worry someone flame u, unless u intend to.

i believe most guy aint like what he said. don worry. some might uber giler game, but not really sampai what he said. lol


wan me teach u dota??? free tutor (usually i charge)

come. what is ur garena nick? let me pwn u 1st...


so if u don get dizzy u gonna be like those attention seeker according u said? lawl~~~

This post has been edited by Core-: Oct 14 2008, 08:32 PM

LOL, maybe all of the ppl who comment here, not so noob in dota, can go to a cc n have a tournament against everyone =P . haha.

no problem lol, nowadays keep pwning people but still lose.. too many leavers..

but honestly i think we should pay attention more to our gf more than dota. when i played dota while i was replying her sms, sure will get killed lol

lesson is : play when they are sleeping