hi, i am thinking of replacing my old P4 rig with a new AMD system...

currently wat's in my mind is:

Biostar TA790GX XE
Athlon x2 5000+ BE
CM GeminII S

others are all old parts, using the onboard Radeon HD 3300

pls note that i will be using a mATX chasis...

i ve a CM Extreme Power Plus 460W to go with it...

however, my question is:

1) should i get 5000+ BE and OC it, or get a 5600+/6000+?? considering that i am totally new to AMD systems...

2) the mobo good?? it's one of the few mATX 790GX i can find in the market... i know DFI has got another one that comes with CF, but i wouldn't be needing it...

[edit]

oops... it should be 790GX instead... pai seh...

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 3 2008, 07:44 PM

Purpose?

And yes, the mobo is good.

ha ok dah tuu mana gc ko ...apasai psu ko ciput jee abik yg real power 790gx tuu ok gak

nothing serious...

mainly Internet, media center, BT and stuff... no hardcore gaming (for now, at least)

and also to get a hand on OC-ing a AMD system... have been using Intel all the while (P1, P3, P4, C2D...)

That's a good setup and value...

Biostar TA780GX XE: May I know where can get this? n the price?

Thanks

If like that, 5000+BE should be fine. But make sure you opt for a HSF also since it doesn't come with one IIRC.

why

srry that i can't tell u this as i am living in Singapore... over here it's selling for abt SG$160 alone

juz wanna get more opinions abt the setup...

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Added on October 3, 2008, 7:03 pmyup, that's y the CM GeminII S heatsink... it's pretty small for a heatsink and should fit in my chasis...



a review here if u re interested:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/d...-geminii-s.html

and official page:
http://www.coolermaster.com/products/produ...bcate=1&id=3263

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 3 2008, 07:08 PM

Better take Phenom x3 and OC to 2.8~3.0 ghz :claps:

790GX would be waste w/o Phenom...since ACC features only works with Phenom

see my siggy on cpu scaling for K8 vs K10 comparison

it's using 120mm fan la. how is it small?

okok, after much due consideration, how abt this??

Athlon x2 4850E
Giga GA-MA78GPM-DS2H

CPU is cheaper by $20+ while CPU is $20 more expensive...

ve read reviews that 4850e can OC pretty well...

considered 4850e since the rig is for nothing too demanding... 45W is a pretty nice number for HTPC... for gaming, well, that will leave to the future rig i suppose...

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 3 2008, 11:18 PM

CPU is okay for the tasks you specified. But with that new mobo option, you will lose some gaming performance(but that is irrelevant eh?). But probably not so much considering it has sideport memory also.

The 4850e has a TDP of 45W. Theoretically, it should OC well as you said. But of course it might become a hassle when OCing since it does not have an unlock multi like the 5000+BE.

This post has been edited by rndm: Oct 4 2008, 12:00 AM

well, i dun mind the drop in performance since like i ve said, it for nothing serious...

besides HD 3200 with SidePort and HD 3300's performance difference is mainly due to the core clock...

as for OC, i think i'll only do some mild OC, nothing serious like i ve said...

however, issit worth spending SG$20 for SidePort and Ultra Durable 2??

dun wan to consider 8450/8650/8750 X3?

thx for the suggestion but i think i'll give it a miss this time round...

i dun think a HTPC really need such a mid-high CPU...

besides, i am planning to keep it running 24/7, so i quite like the 4850e's TDP and temperature...

and since it's my first AMD system, perhaps start with something cheap first...

Oh HTPC! din see that @1st post

ur 4850e setup quite nice edi

yup, like i said, nothing serious...

btw, issit worth spending SG$20 more for SidePort and Ultra Durable 2??

humm, ur htpc purpose is for?

worth or not...depends on ur usage...

HTPC, BT, some light gaming, some mild OC, most probably will run 24x7...

Hum, im not sure getting sideport memory for sgd$20 worth or not...

maybe top up abit for 3450 is better choice? (can hybrid cfx with hd3200)

Dont want try ATOM dual core...? The price + mobo is only Rm299... Zhen Wei is selling... Kinda cool...

heh... a HD 3450 cost $60+ here...

that means additional $40 gone...

perhaps i juz think that $20 spend on Ultra Durable 2 instead... that doesn't sound so bad...

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Added on October 4, 2008, 1:02 amthx for the suggestion but i think i will give Atom a miss as well... it's still not the perfect platform i am looking for...

though i am looking forward to VIA Nano + Nvidia mobo chipset... that will totally pwn Atom...

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Added on October 4, 2008, 1:14 amanyway, 1 more question:

Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-DS2H
Biostar TA790GX XE

which one is better??

i know using the Biostar is a bit wasteful, but it's $20 cheaper than the Gigabyte...

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 4 2008, 01:14 AM

Biostar TA790GX XEo

This post has been edited by meons: Oct 4 2008, 01:26 AM

hmm, wouldn't that be a waste if i dun use Phenom with 790GX???

just waste the ACC features

others, just better than 780G

haiz... really dunno which to choose leh...

but Biostar's quality good or not??? dun want my mobo to kaput after 1 or 2 yrs...

and i also never use Biostar before... only used Gigabyte and MSI last time... ve a Gigabyte P35 that's serving quite well...

hmm, how abt 1st choice Biostar, 2nd choice Gigabyte???

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 4 2008, 10:58 AM

gigabyte also got 790GX mobo rite? go for it

i want only mATX mobo... as i am reusing my old chasis...

Giga's GA-MA790GP-DS4H is a ATX one...

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Added on October 4, 2008, 11:07 amhrh... first time think so hard to choose a mobo sia...

so is Biostar relaible??? i remember last time they make like budget mobo until recently...

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 4 2008, 11:07 AM

not sure about other people, but biostar serve me well

(using 780g and 690g here)

okok, then i think i will go with Biostar...

if no stock then Giga lor...

but i hear biostar hv high chance to kaput in 1 year...

and yet my 690G biostar runs well after one year?

Err... since you have a 790GX might as well get a Phenom 8750.


The 790GX has an advantage- with it, the idle power of Phenoms are really good (matching or even lower than Core 2 Quads)

The Biostar one is good, actually. Better than the cheap Asus stuff.

hey, ya, thx everyone...

went down to hoot the stuff already...

Biostar TA790GX XE and Athlon x2 5200+

got 5200+ as it's less than SG$10 more than 4850e... (but 5600+ is SG$30 more than 5200+ )

total dmg SG$294 including RAM... (Kingston ValueRAM DDR2 800 1GB x2)

the extra $6 went to eat

didn't choose Phenom as it's meant to be a budget rig... (for my mum, mainly... )

thx everyone for your suggestions!! they are all very useful

assembling now, will post again when it's up

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 4 2008, 04:38 PM

juz some preview...

WEI Score

CPU: 5.2 - Athlon x2 5200+
RAM: 5.8 - Kingston Value RAM DDR2 800 1GB x2
Game: 2.0 - Radeon HD 3300
Aero: 3.0
HDD: 5.8 - Hitachi 320GB SATA2