Surprised that most of the old S478 members are still here Time has passed and I've moved on to an X2 already, and my trusty P4 rig handed down to my younger sibling.

P4 still rocks though, still able to play L4D

Recently toned it down a little. I'm still on stock cooling for my proc, and the when the fan goes up to maximum RPM he whole casing and table starts to rattle... scary.

Yup, Left 4 Dead. Are there any Malaysian private servers around

Shinjite, you still have the link for your MKV test file?

Actually, I've ran those same D43 chips on 3.3v when I had my NF7, but I toned it down since the chips didn't require that much voltage. Anyway, it is stated in the specifications manual that 3.3v is the max voltage the chips can tolerate.

Haha, not OC but more like how much it can take before it goes crazy

Happy CNY to all of you
Well, for one thing overclocking is definitely addictive. The thought of getting extra performance without any additional cost is definitely something profitable, no? What definitely comes with overclocking are new performance stuff to cool things down which definitely offsets the savings that you earn with pushing your hardware in the first place.

I just got my S939 AMD X2 to replace my P4 3.0E for a very, very low price, as of now doing test runs on it and to see what has to be changed to get heat off, fast but with a miniscule budget of course. If you're gonna spend big on cooling you're better off allocating that cash for better parts.

Sole reason why I got it because it was really cheap. S939 well might be a dead end, but let's see if I can give it a little 'pressure' to work alongside C2Ds...

I might have a P4 3.0C up for sale soon too. Time to start clearing off old stuff.

This post has been edited by colinwong89: Jan 29 2009, 04:23 PM

You can try getting one of the last AGP cards, IINM it was the Geforce 7 series.

By the way, I have a 512MBx2 DDR sticks and a 5900XT if you're interested, I'll sell it to you cheaper if you take both of them.

Best bet is a AGP Geforce 7 series, if you can manage to find them.


My P4 3.0E went through countless overheating sessions (during when it was owned previously by someone who didn't know why the PC kept restarting during games ), fed lots of voltage, ran at an average of 65 - 75C, 24 hours a day.

Still alive, yes.

OCed with stock cooling Time to update my sig soon

I have one of these too, got the 500GB version at your price half a year back

I read that this HDD isn't really meant for performance, as WD mentioned that the spindle runs 'between 5400 RPM to 7200 RPM', but technically it runs closer to the former. It does run silent though, and also my first SATA2 drive so I can't make any comparisons

fylon, just wanna know where you read this from? Now at least I can rest easy that my HDD performance would not be as bad as other 7200RPM drives

Edministrator going for LGA775/AGP combo? Sounds good nevertheless, but why make the small jump? Your upgrade options will be very limited in terms of your video card, unless you want a temporary faster solution for a few years to come.

i7s are coming around the corner, and people would be starting to sell off their Core 2 rigs. If you're lucky you can manage to get nice stuff by then

i7?

Very nice.

I just did a hot-flash after corrupting my BIOS a few days ago, and it's not risky unless you have shaky hands

You don't really need the same model but it is recommended that you do. I used my old Abit AI7 to flash my DFI NF4 BIOS chip and it works fine. You just have to make sure that the voltages used for the BIOS chip are the same. By now all current board should use 3.3v types, and putting a 3.3v chip into a 5v socket will definitely not bring you good results.

If both boards use the same type of BIOS, eg. Award, Phoenix, Ami you'd probably have better chance for it to work. Also, if your board is using Phoenix/Award type BIOSes, do not use the DOS AWDFLASH program, get Winflash instead.

This post has been edited by colinwong89: Feb 18 2009, 06:07 PM

Well I did check and my AI7 was using a BIOS chip from PMCFlash and the DFI from SST. My old VIA P4 chipset uses the square BIOS chip but with 5v, so my AI7 definitely would be using 3.3v.

My AI7 was being used so I had to resort to my spare Asus P4P800. Turns out that it uses the same BIOS chip, just a different revision of it. What luck it turned out to be when the BIOS hotflash could never be completed, no matter what type of flasher I used. At this point I was seriously worried my DFI will not be able to start anymore for a few weeks

So out of desperation I had to use my AI7 for the task. I wasn't certain if the hotflash could be done, but having a burnt chip is no different from having a non-working one. Plugged it in, flashed the chip, repopped it back into the DFI and the DFI lives.

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Added on February 18, 2009, 11:09 pmI had that once before, and it's probably the sound of the hard drives reparking itself again and again.

Some CAS2.5 and CAS2 RAMs cannot run at CAS3, like my old BH-5 sticks. You can try running all the RAMs at CAS2.5 with a slight increase in voltage, it might probably work for you.

This post has been edited by colinwong89: Feb 18 2009, 11:09 PM

Nope, definitely not possible

You're not getting the main point here. To do a hotflash, in a nutshell:

You need two PCs, which both must use the socketed chip type, and use the same voltage spec. It is quite safe to say that all P4 Prescott-supported boards and above support these.

To do a hotflash, you need a chip remover, or use a flathead screwdriver (used to tighten screws on reading glasses or any equivalent), and gently wedge it in the spaces of the socket of your backup PC after booting. Once done, use the socket packaging as a fulcrum to lift the chip out of the socket, and replace your dead BIOS chip into the socket. Reflash your dead PC's BIOS inside, replace the old chip back into each of your own PCs and try it out. Take necessary precautions, like the orientation of the chip, safety handling, etc. Do read the specsheets of both BIOS chips, which the model numbers are situated on the chip packaging itself to find out more info before proceeding further to check compatibility.

Compatibility wise, I don't think there is much of a problem since flash chips do have to follow certain standards, and I'm aware of two different methods of flashing the chip (as in how the flasher modifies each memory location) so there's bound to be some standardisation. This is entirely my speculation so read up a bit before doing anything else.

In the event that there are non-identical RAMs, the PC will always follow the slowest timing, not by majority.

This post has been edited by colinwong89: Feb 19 2009, 05:48 PM

Up to how many percent gains, roughly? Data corruption can happen, it's not worth it for me.

Usually so, but from my experience it's not so much of a risk as opposed to clocking the RAMs/FSB/proc. I usually try not to perform write operations during OC tests in fear of losing my precious data