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 All About Badminton Equipment v2, Racket, Shoes, Grip, String, Cocks

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alan kc
post Sep 10 2010, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(bayanbaru @ Sep 10 2010, 06:02 AM)
double & attacking  drool.gif
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Armotec 250..or armotec 50,70 mega...arn rm 150 to 200

Added on September 10, 2010, 9:13 am
QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 10 2010, 01:27 AM)
kido/setiawan team is using flypower
i'm not sure about now but they used it before
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Last 2 year they using yonex right?setiawan using armotec 800 defence,kido using armotec 900 power if i nt wrong.

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alan kc
post Sep 10 2010, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 10 2010, 02:10 PM)
yupe..duno why yonex don't sponsor them anymore
besides being different generations, the materials are different
L50 and L60 should have similar frame shape while L90 has the frame similar to Victor BraveSword which cuts through the air faster
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Coz indo nt a strong alrdy ma..easy thg..in business,u wan to push ur product by sponsor on famous ppl or nt famous ppl?
alan kc
post Sep 10 2010, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(bayanbaru @ Sep 10 2010, 02:32 PM)
no more yonex armotec for me as i broke 2pcs before....
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U buy wat model?

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 10 2010, 02:36 PM)
actually beside head heaviness, what's the difference between T200, T50/T60? T90 cut air faster?? izzit something like z slash??
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Z slash is swing faster,bs is aerodynamic,is cut air.

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post Sep 10 2010, 03:29 PM

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Hahaha...slayer z is slim frame..bt aerodynamic nt slim,its widebody or is aerodynamic.
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post Sep 10 2010, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(bayanbaru @ Sep 10 2010, 04:02 PM)
yonex armotec 300 (made in japan)!!!!!
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Thats quite fragile racket..and at700 too..and also exp.

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 10 2010, 03:37 PM)
still not really understand XD
this what i understand about aerodynamic and speed. in order for u to reach better top speed (in this case, swing faster),u need to make sure the design of ur car is aerodynamic to reduce the air resistance so that u can cut the air...
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U can try to see d pic z slash and bs10 frame..u wil notice that bs frame 2 side is sharp...then z slash is arn like box shape..slim frame is d frame heigt more short.

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post Sep 10 2010, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 10 2010, 04:26 PM)
i think yonex's shaft quite solid while apacs 1 r more fragile. that day my T200 clash with my friend yonex racquet(i dont know what model) and ended up my shaft the outer layer shatter, cannot be used anymore however his racquet still infact
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Nt all model of yonex shaft solid and durable.at 900,250,150,600..tis model mayb durable..ti model quite fragile.
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post Sep 10 2010, 06:54 PM

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Ok...if u put d 2 racket 2gether,then u look at d side of that frame.do u notice that z is more slim..bt d 2 side of that frame is box..then d bs frame more fat..bt d 2 side at d frame is sharp shape..so can cut d air.box shape cant cut d air bt bcoz slim u can swing it easily.
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post Sep 10 2010, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 10 2010, 06:49 PM)
if i'm not mistaken, hafiz hashim, chan chong ming, chew choon eng etc etc still sponsored by yonex
they more popular or kido/setiawan more popular?

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actually to me they have the same purpose
both tech will produce faster swing
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Nope..jus hafiz use yonex only..chan chong meng and choo chun eng is sponsor by victor..coz they r nt play for bam..is personal d.

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QUOTE(hamboldt @ Sep 10 2010, 08:21 PM)
With the slimmer side frame doesn't reveal that it will have faster swing speed, each manufacturer have their own design for the aerodynamic frame as they need to consider the material used, inner strengthen material, the power generated by each design and etc. But each design serve the same purpose, faster swing speed and satisfaction of the players...

If you want to know which can swing faster, you will really need to have both racket, hit  a shuttlecock with the same person with a speed gun, but the results still will have little non-conformance error due to not every hit will be the exactly same...
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Yup..hav to test it...bt slim shaft is easy swing for example changing position from left to right or up to down...aerodynamic is d timing u hit d shuttle more faster compare to box shape.

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post Sep 10 2010, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 10 2010, 09:04 PM)
ok just hafiz. so he's more popular than kido/setiawan?
cannot be
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Jus like wat i say hafiz is still under bam..u knw badminton association malaysia...yonex nt sponsor to hafiz,yonex is sponsor to bam..so if u r bam player u can use yonex lo..hahaha..
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post Sep 11 2010, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 10 2010, 09:47 PM)
means kido/setiawan not under PBSI anymore?
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Same like wong choon han lo.

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QUOTE(Omage007 @ Sep 10 2010, 11:10 PM)
no need to make thing complicated, there is a reason why racket got this technology that technology; don't compare difference racket modal, imagine now NS9900 got another new modal name NS9900B, everything is same as NS9900 but it got aerodynamic frame, so you think which one can swing faster now? NS9900 or NS9900B?
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Ns9900..same u take d pork knife..u swing it up and down fast coz sharp area cut d air..bt left right so slow coz large blade area cant cut d air.

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post Sep 11 2010, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 11 2010, 01:19 AM)
sifu has spoken notworthy.gif

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taufik is not under PBSI anymore right?
so he's on personal sponsorship?

eh..i remember seeing kido/setiawan wearing yonex shirts in competition somewhere this year
how long have they been out of PBSI?
ya i know, he under dunlop
wan wah/tan fook under victor right?
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Taufik stil hav..wan wah and tan fook under victor.
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post Sep 12 2010, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(bayanbaru @ Sep 12 2010, 08:19 AM)
gosen sparklite 77 - is it head heavy?
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My fren use gosen also,bt i forgot wat model d..head heavy and flex shaft..
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post Sep 12 2010, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(bayanbaru @ Sep 12 2010, 03:16 PM)
gosen sparklite 77 ....RM150 can buy aaah
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U hav to buy d racket suitable for u..
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post Sep 12 2010, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(doublezul @ Sep 12 2010, 06:32 PM)
how much is li-ning N50ii?
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Arn 650..
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post Sep 16 2010, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Ong @ Sep 16 2010, 12:02 PM)
Selling my Victor Brave Sword 09... See here:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/sho...466#post1521466

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nice racket..but d price.....

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QUOTE(silrave @ Sep 13 2010, 11:37 PM)
today jz get my new racket but not apac , not rsl , not yonex o
protech is it ok ?
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how u feel of that racket?

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post Sep 19 2010, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 19 2010, 05:08 AM)
i mean i was laughing at the idea that wristband can prevent sprained wrist
i don't think it can
how's your accuracy?
if your accuracy is high (constantly hitting sweetspot), can try Zy62 @ 24lbs or lower
Zy62@24lbs is equivalent to BG66@26lbs
thanks but i already knew that long ago
the problem is..i'm producing SAME power with both high and low tension
that's the part i don't understand why
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Thats mean ur hand nt enough power to use d high tension..

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QUOTE(nemoexcel @ Sep 19 2010, 04:42 AM)
A higher stringed tension = more control, but LESS power in your smashes
lower tension = more power in smashes, but LESS control of your shuttle.. imagine a trampoline effect if you jump on it....

check this out bro >> http://badmintonracketguide.com/tag/badminton-string/
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I dun agree,if u say like that,wat lbs u use 13lbs?y d national player strung 33lbs?evry string hav different thicknes and handle how many tension equal to how many string flex...if d string to flex,it cant produce full power..bt if d string tension too high it bcome too tight,and need to more hand power to hit it..for exp,bg66 is thin,if u strung it 30 lbs,u will feel so hard to hit it coz d string is over lbs until it dun hav flex d..jus like d rubber band.

Added on September 19, 2010, 2:33 pm
QUOTE(nemoexcel @ Sep 19 2010, 04:42 AM)
A higher stringed tension = more control, but LESS power in your smashes
lower tension = more power in smashes, but LESS control of your shuttle.. imagine a trampoline effect if you jump on it....

check this out bro >> http://badmintonracketguide.com/tag/badminton-string/
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I dun agree,if u say like that,wat lbs u use 13lbs?y d national player strung 33lbs?evry string hav different thicknes and handle how many tension equal to how many string flex...if d string to flex,it cant produce full power..bt if d string tension too high it bcome too tight,and need to more hand power to hit it..for exp,bg66 is thin,if u strung it 30 lbs,u will feel so hard to hit it coz d string is over lbs until it dun hav flex d..jus like d rubber band.

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post Sep 19 2010, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 19 2010, 05:58 PM)
u mean lining 0.62? u can skip that
most reviews says that Zy62 beat it flat
make some sense
this is most probably the problem

nah..just something that i wonder
it's not really a good comparison though because i was comparing a 3u(24lbs) and a 4u(28lbs) racket
i can still live with it coz my shots are still reaching baseline and not always half court with the 28lbs
thank you all sifus!! notworthy.gif
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Haha..high and low tension probaly will find smash speed..stroke nt so can feel d different.
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post Sep 20 2010, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 19 2010, 11:01 PM)
yupe. i can place shots better with 28lbs
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haha...and also feel the sound so solid like national player...hahaha..
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post Sep 20 2010, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Omage007 @ Sep 20 2010, 11:54 AM)
your example seem like didn't hit the point, we are talking about difference rubber band now, rubber band A is 24lbs rubber band B is 28lbs, if you use N strength to pull the rubber band A to reach X, you need N+M strength to pull the rubber band B to reach X, or with N strength only you can pull the rubber band B to reach X-Y distance only.

smash power not depends on X only; a racket B 28lbs string with X = 1.8cm only could be more powerful then a racket A 24lbs string racket with X = 2.0cm, if racket B can get X = 2.0cm also then sure a lot more powerful then racket A.

indeed your example is more suitable to describe shaft stiffness, if use N strength to band the racket shaft, the smaller the X value mean the stiffer the shaft; e.g : racket A modal 1, X = 1.0cm, stiff; racket A modal 2, X = 1.5cm, mid-stiff, racket A modal C, X = 2.0cm, flex. . .
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easy example is,string high tension,need more hand power to generate the power out...but if ur hand not enough power,it will not generate fully power out....if low string tension,no matter how many power u generate,the shuttle speed is still have limit,it still slower than the high tension power...
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QUOTE(fatnfit @ Sep 20 2010, 01:26 PM)
Huh? 18-22lbs for more power? I thought if you have enough power, you string to higher tension and you should get more power?

Of course if you are not powerful enough, stringing to higher tension will only make your game worse...
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haha...string high tension,need to more power to generate..if ur hand got power,u will get more shuttle speed in high tension...
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