i'm using MSI mobo. last nite i try to update my bios through MSI live update. just follow instruction listed, i try to flash the bios using windows dialog box.i dont hav floppy disk actually. it was not a successfully install cause an error occured. b4 that, i already backup old bios. then i restart my pc and beep sound come out, and pc just blank. what happend to my pc? is it damaged cause of bios fault? any solution for this? my friend said that if bios is broken then it consider as mobo is broken too. is it true? what about other hardwares such as ram and hdd and processor?

may be the ram is the problem. change ur ram temporarily and see.

well, u can 1st try pinpointing which part causes the problem. here's some suggestions...

1) clear CMOS, either by pulling out the battery for a while or clearing thru the jumper.
2) reinsert back ur RAMs
3) reinsert back ur GC
4) try ur hdd on a diff comp but i doubt it's the cause as u said earlier ur mobo had the beep sound

hope this solves

ram type is ddr2 kingston 512mb kvr533d2n. any other solution? i dont have any of ddr2 ram now. can it be ram fault? the beep sound twice...the first one longer than the second one..no more sound after that,pc keep running n still blank.

well, have u tried out the clear CMOS step 1st? then try ur RAMs

sib:

i already try pin the cmos jumper and pull out the battery and plud in back. but same things happened. it dont changed anything.

do u still have the manual for the mobo?

IINM there's a guide on what the beep sound means, it's kinda hard too to tell if ur mobo is the real problem or ur RAM's...

how many sticks of RAM did u use? if more than 1, y dun try 1 at a time...

only using 1 slot. i'll check for the manual. if it is the mobo..then can it be fix? i try to update the bios actually. but unsuccessful. then prob to pc. why ha? can the bios restore to old?

iinm, if the bios is corrupted so do the mobo too...

and i'm not rly sure if the bios can be restored back, or mbe i'm wrong. i hope other forumers can clear this out

ok sib.tq

is there any places that can repair mobo in case?or someone? or thus msi hav any service center around?

Some brand of motherboard like Asus and Gigabyte came with 3 years warranty.

Try to check with the shop where you bought the motherboard from. They might able to help you.

no prob, but as Webwalker said, u better go back to the shop where u buy it n ask for a warranty...

next time if you flash unsucessful, you must revert back to old BIOS before restart PC.

owh..must be like that ya..why do so?

try email to this guy...he can flash your mobo bios or create new bios chip for you...

this is email..btw nickname in lyn is ykf..but i search don't see his nickname la

ykf3007@hotmail.com

erm.. wad da sound of da pc?? n da monitor i jus blank?? cos im did have these prob with my comp too.. i aint sure if it was bios prob or harddisk.. but now its solved but i cant reset da bios thing..

TS
sound like the mobo bios is edy corrupted . all ur hardware is still ok dont worry. i hv this experince b4.

the only thing can help u is to hotflash the bios.
more inform here - http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-bin/ul...c;f=52;t=000032

fren,tumpang here.
what is the symptom for broken or spoilt bios?
anyone can help?

Fail on BIOS flashing.
After that PC just refuse to boot up.
Simple right?

i already read bout the article. but i cannot actually understand on how the stuff he do it. can you elaborate in simple meaning? u hav the experiance b4...what you do?plz teach me...

Hot Flash

If you have a friend with the same motherboard or one that uses the same or a plug compatible BIOS chip, you may be able to "Hot Flash" your chip using your friend's motherboard. To do this you prepare your BIOS flash diskette as indicated above EXCEPT you do not include the AUTOEXEC.BAT file (you do not want this diskette to "auto-run" on your friend's computer or you may owe him or her a new BIOS chip as well!).

A chip-puller tool is recommend for Hot-Flashing.

If you don't have a chip puller tool, you can fashion one by straightening a paper clip and making a small bend at one end.

On two opposite sides of the PLCC socket is a small opening where the chip puller or straightened paper clip is inserted. If using a paper clip, ensure that your bend at the end will fit into the socket and under the BIOS chip like a small hook.

When using a chip puller tool, insert the ends of the tool into the openings on the socket and gently squeeze the tool to extract the chip.

When using a straightened paper clip, work alternating from one corner to the other, inserting the paper clip into the opening and gently pull up on the chip. Do not attempt to pull the chip all the way out on one corner because you will risk bending the pins on the chip or damaging the socket. Instead, alternate from one corner to the other, pulling up a small bit each time until the chip pops up from the board.

Before beginning with this process, it's imperative that you know the correct orientation of the BIOS chip in your board and your friend's board. PLCC chips have one corner that has been cut. This cut mates exactly to the PLCC socket on the motherboard. Also, if you peel any labels off the top of the chip, you'll see that there is a dot on one side of the chip that mates to a matching dot on the socket.

Know and remember your chip orientation. Mess up and you fry the chip .. this is the most common mistake when swapping out a BIOS chip, so take care.

Because you will be working on a running system, remove the chip from your friend's system beforehand. On both your chip and your friend's chip, tie dental floss or fishing line (both non-conductive) diagonally on the chip on the non-cut corners (mating to the extractor tool insertion openings). Tie the knot on the top and leave tails long enough that you can grasp them easily while the system is running. Do not leave tails so long that you risk having them caught up by a running fan.

Gently reinstall your friend's chip. Do not push it all the way in; simply ensure that you've pushed it in far enough that all the pins make positive contact with the socket and you can easily pull the chip up while the system is running. You may want to practice prior to starting up your friend's system.

Boot your friend's system with your BIOS flash diskette. When you reach the DOS "A>" prompt, gently remove the chip from your friend's motherboard and replace it with your chip. Take extra care that you do not bend any of the pins on the chip. Carefully insert your corrupted chip, aligning the chip in the same manner as the chip you removed.

Flash your chip using the command:

AWDFLASH.EXE xxxxxx.BIN /QI /PY /SN

Do not include any of the other switches in the command lines described above. You do not want your friend's computer to automatically reboot after the flash, nor do you want to clear your friend's CMOS memory. When Awdflash finishes and you get the F1/F10 reboot or exit message, turn off your friend's system using the switch on the PSU. You do not want to reboot your chip on your friend's system unless it's exactly the same model and revision motherboard.

Remove any dental floss or fishing line from both chips. Replace your friend's chip and then replace your own chip in your system.

Continue with the above instructions to manually clear your CMOS settings in order to complete your recovery.

where can i found this chip-puller tools? i check on my mobo and found this socket chip entitled U16. socket color is brown.is this the bios chips socket?