Currently pushing mobileme, gmail and yahoo into the iphone.

Any of u guys have any idea how to push hotmail or tmnet email into iphone?


edited as pointed out by skywalker, blackberry still is the better email phone

This post has been edited by rx330: Oct 1 2008, 12:29 PM

So what do you need to do to get your email? What's the delay time? Do you have to check instead of getting it pushed to you like SMS? Can you still get email without touching your phone?

With the blackberry, I don't have to do anything. I just look for the red blinking light. Got light, got email. No light, no email. And I don't even have to touch the phone. Don't even need to take the phone out of sleep mode. Don't even need to take the phone out of the case.

Also, don't mix up autofetching email with push email. They are both different. With the iphone, you fetch your email. With the blackberry, you get the email pushed to the phone.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Oct 1 2008, 11:39 AM

er.... i wrote there pushing didnt i?

but the blinking red light, u win, iphone no light.....

You are autofetching, not pushing. I get my gmail within 2 seconds of receiving it on the Gmail server, faster than SMS. Can the iphone beat that?

The iphone is fancy in every way but still has a long way to go to become a messenging powerhouse. I'm also checking all my imap and pop accounts, including my tmnet and streamyx accounts.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Oct 1 2008, 11:43 AM

push mail works much depand on the email server setting and the capability of the server features.If Tmnet support push mail then u will get it.

With the blackberry, you don't need to rely on the email server. The blackberry server fetches the email from my tmnet account and then push to the phone. My tmnet mail is being pushed to me, irrespective of whether TMNET supports push or not. That is the true definition of push email, unlike those advertised by ActiveSync, which is typically autofetch and not push.

The Push partnership is made one step between with Blackberry and Gmail. My emails from gmail get to my phone faster than SMS.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Oct 1 2008, 11:49 AM

@sleepwalker

Every phone has it's good and bad side. iPhone is fancy, blackberry is good too. You have your choice to choose which phone to use.

I prefer iPhone and i don't like how blackberry works. If you dislike iPhone, simply don't acquire one as you have mentioned, it's not a messenging powerhouse. Apple still has a long way to go and they are making better progress. Greater things to come for sure. But blackberry, any news?

But i'm sure that Appstore applications kicks the hell out of blackberry for sure..muaahahhahahahha..

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Oct 1 2008, 11:59 AM

@ david , im agree with you

I believe we are not in a discussion about which is the better phone. I'm mearly replying to the TS statement of "with the iphone who needs a blackberry" towards receiving emails. That gives me the impression that the TS does not fully comprehend what the blackberry can do with messenging.

I'm not here to belittle the iphone. I guess, you together with the rest of the iphone users, will not hear anything else once you have your iphone. There's plenty of great things from blackberry if you are listening. Anyway, for those of us using the blackberry, we don't have much time to do anything else on the phone. The phone is a source of income and we lose money and business deals if we are doing anything else on the phone.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Oct 1 2008, 12:05 PM

i have used the blackberry pearl for over a year and the iphone coming close to a year now.

i must say, with the exception of the pushmail services (which costs a premium to maintain here as opposed to other countries), iphones will definitely surpass blackberries in every aspect feasible.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Oct 1 2008, 12:14 PM

Very cool then. I'm sure we iPhone users would like to hear how blackberry works. Do enlighten us more on how you guys use the blackberry. We are all learning and always learning.

I find this weird: ''The phone is a source of income and we lose money and business deals if we are doing anything else on the phone.''

All phones can be a source of income and by doing other things with the phone, you lose money??? I have not heard that before mate. Why so?

I do get loads of work done with the iPhone and money still happily coming in.

Ah yes, the pearl. That is missing half the features of the blackberry. We are still talking about pushmail here aren't we? The Blackberry Bold has just arrived here on our shores, OFFICIALLY and not underwater/smuggled... (that's something iphones will not surpass). The blackberry isn't made for fancy multimedia but it is still hard to comprehend that the iphone will beat the Bold in every aspect feasible.

For us using blackberries, cost of service is not an issue, otherwise we would be using the iphone.

Anyway, again, we are going off topic. We can read for ourselves the thousands of BB vs Iphone debates online. It will never end.

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Added on October 1, 2008, 12:25 pmWe don't have time. Does a company CEO who works 12-16 hours a day, have the time to watch video on his tiny phone while his wall size plasma TV awaits him at home? Why his driver is driving him back from work at night, the day has not ended yet as we are still replying emails and doing deals with the other side of the world that has just woken up to another brand new day.

I'm talking about time. Not the phone. There is just so much time in a day and not enough to fully use the phone for anything else.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Oct 1 2008, 12:25 PM

Anyway, let's stop then. Debate is not the right thing to do here. Leave it out. Hope rx330 find more answers.

Have a good holiday and Selamat Hari Raya to all Muslime forumers here.

Cheers

*Btw, i'm a CEO and a musician.

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Oct 1 2008, 12:31 PM

well, i did use the blackberry curve simultaneously with my iphone (after the pearl), but IMHO still not up to my personal satisfaction. hence decided to sell both the pearl and curve off to move away from the blackberry series.


added: but at least i'm glad that we don't get any jacka$$es comments by blackberry users on "why there isn't any video calling feature despite being a 3G phone?". i'm sure that we have a common ground there.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Oct 1 2008, 01:04 PM

Yeap.. SELAMAT HARI RAYA everybody. Today is not the day to start a debate.

sleepwalker, mine push wor, not fetch
i tested b4, instant like sms. But to make it clear, tat was through mobileme

for yahoo and gmail i din try yet, but according to a yahoo fren user of mine, he says instant as well

so any idea to do hotmail and tmnet acc through the iphone?

the tmnet account is definitely do-able (by entering the relevant information found on their website) as i have tried to fix a dude's iphone before and saw his streamyx account being synchronised.

for hotmail, you will need to pay a premium price for that feature.

hmmm.... how premium is premium? how come i dunno hotmail can pay one?

i found one, izymail, but hor.. need registration, and hor... during registration have to give out hotmail password.... my lampahchis also shrink....

@ rx330


kindly check their website for more information.


anything that falls within the usage of third party applications will be out of hotmail's responsibility.

yaloh later you'll find you finally able to push your hotmail but there's no mail to push anymore cause izymail accessed your account and deleted all your emails...

seems tat izymail still ok, but i aint taking no chances, i would rather pay for the hotmail account. by the way, how to pay for it? hmmmm

any users here doing it with the tmnet account?

@ rx330


sorry mate. if i keep answering your trivial questions, i will be appearing as biased and not followed the pact

furthermore, it will be not fair to all those peeps who have PMed me.

oh ya, raya just started
ok, takpe, i tunggu

must be fair for all

wa first page already so many text..
me grabs popcorn

movie is comin up soon..
subbie cum blackberry owner vs iphonians

happy raya!

hv a look

harmeet, thanks i found tat
but cant get more details that tat to show workable with iphone

is a different category.... Duno wat the point of argue. Ppl get BB coz of the push mail feature... Else I duno y they want one as HTC those smart phone is good enuff. Dun come and take BB most advance feature to compare here. Wat if we iphone user go BB thread to compare touch screen, UI, apps sdk tools, multimedia etc , do u think it is fair to compare those feature that iphone good at with BB phone? Geeez......


Am using iPhone reply here. And I surprise my kampung (Mentakab Pahang) got at least EDGE with decent line speed. Celcom really not that bad:p

aiyoh... enuff aredi la
not abt comparison this thead

btw, my wife iphone ala problem
kenot access to date and settings, everytime go in, it jumps back to home menu
seems like she is not the only one
http://www.philmug.ph/forum/showthread.php?p=462544

Yes,that is what blackberry service offer.
I configure my iphone to fetch my yahoo mail hourly instead of push mail although I have data unlimited plan.Reason being is Push mail require always on Data connection,this shorten the battery usage time

Ish, I where got compare. I did said no point to argue ma

Personally i am pushing my MobileMe email to my iPhone. As for work, I am pushing my corporate Exchange email to my iPhone as well.

One major differences between BB and iPhone push email is BB actually fetches the email from your configured email account (Exchange email, Streamyx email etc) and pushes to your BB. Meaning if the BB service fails, so does the push emails even though your email service provider is alive and running. Another thing which worrys me is BB server was located at Canada hosted by RIM (maybe Asia might have its own BB relay server) and since all emails go through RIM, what about privacy??

I am a happy iPhone push email user and at the same time I am supporting some BB users i my company as well. So i would says it all depends on your preference, if you are into those corporate thingy, then get yourself a BB. If you live a balanced life between work and play, then iPhone is the choice.

What's the different between a 2-3 secs mail push and a 4-5 secs?

Are we really in such a hurry that just because of that few seconds faster we need to argue about it?

Hey i am happy with any phone that can check my mail anywhere anytime within 10 secs ..

apparently it does, if you are a big shot...

Oh .. so it's matter of how much is your each email worth eh?

my god...
such a big commotion goin on arnd here abt BB n i3g...
take a chill pill guys...
let da big CEOs' worry abt BB...we can hv fun with i3g...

BIG CEO that every of his seconds worth millions

i really LMAO when i read the post here lol

apparently...

there is big CEO that never need push email and still make billion dollars.

this is so right.we got time to pawn our iphone.

I used izyMail for my hotmail to fetch n send to my iphone.. and it work!

http://email.about.com/od/iphonemail/qt/et_get_hotmail.htm

if im a CEO of a company, i wouldnt wanna stare at my phone and wait for my emails 24/7.. i'll get someone else to read it for me, and i'll read my mails when i have time..

i wouldn't even want to reply emails that quick.. if it's that urgent, im sure people will call you instead of emailing u and wait for your reply..



This post has been edited by jakesean: Oct 1 2008, 11:52 PM

@NeeKun
I totally agreed on that 200%.
If you see someone uses BB, sure more towards "work life" things.
If you see someone uses Aifontriji, sure towards "all-in-1" things.

it depends totally on individual preferences and life-style. never-ending comparisons on theirs PROs and CONs.

By the way.... I remember APPLE holds back the "background notification", isn't it ? That has something to do with the PUSH technology on iPhone, am I right ?

Neekun,

Mind sharing how you push your corporate Exchange email (Outlook I presumed) to your iphone. Would love to do that rather than get a winmob or a blackberry to do that. Unique to say the least as others are using winmobs and BB to do theirs in my company. PM me, Bro Thanks

Just key in ur exchange details will do. Settings already preset.

Daniel, izymail works fine? How long u been using it? The only thing I'm uncomfortable is I need to pass them my password

I've been it using for about 3 month ++ already. Yep.. u need to pass in ur password but so far no spamming or junk mail coming into my mail. So I assume its fine.

Mattj,

U got PM

daniel, need to pay for the services?

neekun, i no PM one?

Rx330,

UGPM

finally got the izy to work, but not to my expectations.
took me several tries to get it to work
there is only inbox, no others liao

any1 tried using hotmail plus?
im planning 2 use it but nt 2 sure abt it?
can confirm hotmail plus works with i3g?

Glad to hear it work! Btw just used the free registration n yet it still work like a charmed!
Regarding the inbox? Not sure la bro.. need to try n error! as mine got all the features, sent, deleted etc, etc..

i think i wanna sign up for hotmail plus... abiut regret kasi password to izymail

once u set the hotmail in ur iphone, it will tell u, u need hot mail plus for it to work
tried signing up for hotmail +, but kept giving me error

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Added on October 3, 2008, 11:49 amSHITT..... my hotmail is US address.. dunno how to change it at billin address....

This post has been edited by rx330: Oct 3 2008, 11:49 AM

guys, i dont really understand the settings for the push thingy la. Need some explanations.

If i turn push on, will the settings below be neglected (Fetch and Advanced settings) ?

If i set manual in advanced settings, but turn on push at the same time in the main settings page, which one will it follow ? Tried emailing my gmail and mobileme but it doesnt seem to push it to the phone.

munky, it will follow the one int advanced settings
btw, mobileme is push, but gmail isnt, yahoo yes though

Obviously you are not exposed to corporate culture. It's norm to spend most of your time corresponding emails and attending meeting. Correct me if I am wrong.

Push mail on my mobileme works fine, but not yahoo

nah,most of the time ur seceretary would be corresponding for u, andu will be playing golf most of the time and the weekly spa with business partners

This big shot got no time to wait seconds for his email, works 12-16 hours a day, doing deals with the other side of the world that has just woken up to another brand new day....and yet got time to go to Lowyat.net forum and posting in the forum.

How funny is that??? LMAO!!!!

What's the point of working so hard if you don't even know how to enjoy life a little?

This post has been edited by neverenuff: Oct 14 2008, 02:01 PM

almak.... still on this issue
any helpers on how to get my tmnet acc to work?

more like that.. that's the whole purpose of getting a secretary..u get the deals, they do the work.. big deals usually happens at the golf course, spa, etc etc....

crap...after restoring my phone, mobileme mail won't push anymore...

bro, wen i 1st did the mobileme account, it wont push either, but afer some time ok wor....
dem weird
now almost instant, but sometimes no mail coming in, have to restart the phone

iphone has both push & fetch option...

choose which one you prefer...

it works same as blackberry

this has been discussed before (in fact in this very same thread)


they are not the same. blackberries are famous and renown for a reason; their push e-mails are instantaneous and definite


if you have used a blackberry before, you will definitely what am i trying to convey here.

sigh~ my mobileme mail will push the mail when I'm on 3G data, but no longer push when I'm on Wifi only.....

Should I invest in mobileme? still 1 more month or trial

bro, worth every penny