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 RM2822.16 gone via unauthorized transaction in PBe, Please be extra careful!!!

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TSfelicious
post Nov 5 2008, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(stupid @ Nov 5 2008, 09:01 AM)
how about ebroking?
i juz want t o apply 1 pbb ebroking a/c
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ebroking? shocking.gif

QUOTE(speed7791 @ Nov 5 2008, 11:29 PM)
nigerians.... erm sorry i mean if u have any sort of enquiry whatsoever from nigeria for online biz be super duper careful. they r super famous for online fraud. just google them up to see what i mean.

they'll pose as so many different ppl with different names n use various methods to draw your attention. if u receive a deal o offer that sounds too good to be true, it probably is. they may not say they r from nigeria in the beginning. but if u entertain their emails n later all seems to head that direction. pull the brakes minus ABS....

point..... have nothing to do with anything o anyone from there.
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I've read an article online on Nigerians' online fraud.
And usually, I ignore emails from those unknown people.

FMB just called me and said that they received my letter already. They will follow up the case.

Again, my same wish for this year is to hope that I can get back my money.
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post Nov 6 2008, 01:11 PM

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hmm w/o tarc? how abt the money transfer to wat acc also not show?
TSfelicious
post Nov 6 2008, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Nov 6 2008, 01:11 PM)
hmm w/o tarc? how abt the money transfer to wat acc also not show?
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The money is transferred to someone with name ends with Charles. Should I post his name here? hmm.gif

By the way, what do you mean by w/o tarc?
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post Nov 7 2008, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(felicious @ Oct 19 2008, 04:34 PM)
Can MCMC know about this? I thought only my Telco company know that whether TAC is sent to my phone number or not. Too bad, Telco company will not allow me to know it. Only police have the right to know. My friend told me that it is quite easy to clone sim card now. I am using Symbian phone.
If my phone is hijacked, my PC also hacked by someone?
MCMC have authority over the Telco company. You might want to give a call to MCMC.

If your phone was hijacked, most probably your PC was also hijacked by a Trojan or Keylogger. Keep in mind that custom made or custom programmed keylogger and trojans can be undetectable. If someone hijacked your phone and PC the person is probably a close friend or relative that has knowledge in the IT Industry and has direct access to your PC and Phone.

Btw, you might want to take a look at CyberSecurity Malaysia. They may be able to help with the investigation.
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post Nov 7 2008, 03:12 PM

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Did you logon your account from Cyber cafes, etc? PC's and places that are not safe might potentially be risky.
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post Nov 7 2008, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 7 2008, 03:12 PM)
Did you logon your account from Cyber cafes, etc? PC's and places that are not safe might potentially be risky.
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I think TS already stat that she never logon in cyber or any public connection in her earlier post before.
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QUOTE(felicious @ Sep 22 2008, 02:43 PM)
I had made police report and reported to Public bank about this case. What I can do is just wait for their investigation.

I open this thread just to ask you guyz to be careful.

That fella manage to hack to my e-banking, and even manage to apply TAC to my phone number and gets the TAC number for the transaction. But, I never receive any TAC number before. I wonder how they do that.
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ohmy.gif manage to apply TAC to ur phone and get the TAC.... how they did this.. shocking.gif
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post Nov 8 2008, 09:59 AM

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Btw will the bank give u back the money? I meant insurance. There is no way the hacker can receive the TAC. Maybe he infiltrate to database server. I had been told that Maybank also got hacked by African hacker. Not sure where did this black men got the hacking skill or our banking security is low.
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QUOTE(felicious @ Nov 6 2008, 11:19 PM)
The money is transferred to someone with name ends with Charles. Should I post his name here? hmm.gif

By the way, what do you mean by w/o tarc?
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How they proceed the case now and how well the progress? Did they manage to find out ur acc been hacked?
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post Nov 9 2008, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Oct 10 2008, 10:10 PM)
AFAIK there's 3 failsafe,
1st, login password,
2nd, daily transfer limit (default is RM100 per day only, and cannot increase online)
3rd, TAC to mobile phone
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4: Get a separate computer to ONLY do banking. Nothing else.
5. If you can't get a separate computer, use a virtual machine to ONLY do banking. Nothing else.

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QUOTE(uncle9 @ Sep 22 2008, 02:46 PM)
Easy.
Because you not using original,
so are the hackers. they not original. !
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what u mean by original ?evabulate more pls
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post Nov 10 2008, 05:54 PM

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wait wait.. I read a few pages back, I dont know how your login is being hacked. You give us insufficient information and we cannot give your proper assumption. How do you think you get hacked? u used online banking at cc or starbucks using wireless connection?


Added on November 10, 2008, 6:30 pm
QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 11 2008, 02:02 PM)
I do think intercept phone data and decrypt it has low chance being TS case, as even the they have the ability, they won't doing on TS with 2K plus only.

Several key area we should focus on.

1. TS lose IC, HP and ATM card

2. With HP, TAC can be obtained by the 'hacker' because TAC send directly to the HP from the E-banking, so this create possibility to create a transaction.

3. TAC can also being generated through ATM machine, but if the 'hacker' knew the ATM pin to generate TAC, it is better to withdraw cash directly, don't need to create an online transaction already. So 'hacker' doesn't know the ATM pin (or TS has already cancelled the ATM)

4. So with no ATM pin, only E-transfer can be done to withdraw the money.

5. So if hacker got online user name and password, they can do the transfer already because HP is in their hand.

6. So main question and key area is how they obtain those username and password. TS write in the HP or on the stolen stuff?
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I come to the conclusion that the person who stole her money is close-acquaintances if, it's not the work of insider. Think of it, the hacker can penetrate double security layer.

This post has been edited by Vv.SoViEt.vV: Nov 10 2008, 06:30 PM
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If this guy really able to get through double layer of securities, we are in doom and I believe there should've a disaster recovery action by now.

Anyway, there is still alot of possibilities on how this happened!

But I'm still wondering on the TAC part!

Btw, I do alot of online banking stuff - maybank2u, HLB, CimbClicks, RHB Online and also HSBC and I'm about to get all these services terminated if you failed and granted a ZERO return from your case.
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post Nov 10 2008, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Nov 7 2008, 02:38 PM)
MCMC have authority over the Telco company. You might want to give a call to MCMC.

If your phone was hijacked, most probably your PC was also hijacked by a Trojan or Keylogger. Keep in mind that custom made or custom programmed keylogger and trojans can be undetectable. If someone hijacked your phone and PC the person is probably a close friend or relative that has knowledge in the IT Industry and has direct access to your PC and Phone.

Btw, you might want to take a look at CyberSecurity Malaysia. They may be able to help with the investigation.
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This CyberSecurity may help in investigation? This means that I need to liaise with police on this?

QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 7 2008, 03:12 PM)
Did you logon your account from Cyber cafes, etc? PC's and places that are not safe might potentially be risky.
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As I mentioned before, I don't log on e-banking at CC.

QUOTE(Cubex01 @ Nov 8 2008, 09:59 AM)
Btw will the bank give u back the money? I meant insurance. There is no way the hacker can receive the TAC. Maybe he infiltrate to database server. I had been told that Maybank also got hacked by African hacker. Not sure where did this black men got the hacking skill or our banking security is low.
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I've never heard of M2u fraud, but I've heard 2 cases of PBE before mine happened.

QUOTE(kumarr @ Nov 9 2008, 05:40 AM)
How they proceed the case now and how well the progress? Did they manage to find out ur acc been hacked?
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I've sent letter to FMB, police station and PBB. I still don't receive any letter from them. Guess I should call the manager again.

QUOTE(Vv.SoViEt.vV @ Nov 10 2008, 05:54 PM)
wait wait.. I read a few pages back, I dont know how your login is being hacked. You give us insufficient information and we cannot give your proper assumption. How do you think you get hacked? u used online banking at cc or starbucks using wireless connection?


Added on November 10, 2008, 6:30 pm
I come to the conclusion that the person who stole her money is close-acquaintances if, it's not the work of insider. Think of it, the hacker can penetrate double security layer.
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What else information you would like to know? I am not sure how my account is hacked too. I don't know how my username and password is revealed out. And I don't know how TAC is applied to my handphone WITHOUT me receiving it. Nobody knows my username and password. And my handphone is always by my side.
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omg... i got once login my internet banking from Starbucks wifi...

is it im safe now???
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post Nov 10 2008, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(felicious @ Nov 10 2008, 10:03 PM)
This CyberSecurity may help in investigation? This means that I need to liaise with police on this?
Yes. Contact CyberSecurity at +603-89926888 for more info.


Also, you have to keep calling the Police at least once every 2 days. To you, RM 2K+ is a priority but to the Police, it is just a small & low priority case. Keep calling them...it's better to speak to the same officer/inspector that is leading your case so you don't have to explain everything all over again to a 'clerk/desk' police officer who gives the same reply every time.
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QUOTE(felicious @ Nov 10 2008, 10:03 PM)
What else information you would like to know? I am not sure how my account is hacked too. I don't know how my username and password is revealed out. And I don't know how TAC is applied to my handphone WITHOUT me receiving it. Nobody knows my username and password. And my handphone is always by my side.
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where was the last time you used e-banking and you found out that your is being hacked?

maybe you should check with your celco provider if you actually received the TAC.
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post Nov 11 2008, 01:03 PM

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Ther person who hacked you is your girl friend. She knows your userid and password, and also can access to your phone.
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post Nov 11 2008, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Nov 10 2008, 11:14 PM)
Yes. Contact CyberSecurity at +603-89926888 for more info.
Also, you have to keep calling the Police at least once every 2 days. To you, RM 2K+ is a priority but to the Police, it is just a small & low priority case. Keep calling them...it's better to speak to the same officer/inspector that is leading your case so you don't have to explain everything all over again to a 'clerk/desk' police officer who gives the same reply every time.
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Thanks for your information. I'd call them, but it seems like they can't help much in this. However, they ask me to send an email to them to report.

As for police side, today is too late to call them. They close at 5pm. So, I ll call them again tomorrow morning.

QUOTE(Vv.SoViEt.vV @ Nov 11 2008, 10:11 AM)
where was the last time you used e-banking and you found out that your is being hacked?

maybe you should check with your celco provider if you actually received the TAC.
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The last time I used e-banking was few weeks before my account is hacked. When I confirmed my bank is hacked, I logged on to PBE again.

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your own comp kena keylogger

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