Airsoft gun are to be treated with respect, as it can do harm to those who neglect the need of safety. If airsoft players can formulate a stricter rules and practise it by heart, I am certain that airsoft can be legalize. Most of the problem arise from player itself; bad conduct during skirmishes and unsafe airsoft handling. Regardless, most of airsofter are low profile and very carefull when it comes to the airsoft. Then again, you only need a few bad apples tarnish the whole sack of it.

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Dear sir,
I seconded your opinion regarding the the evil deed that can be caused by legalizing this sport. As such stricter rules must be imposed by the government in deciding who are certified to own airsoft. We tried to figure out a few ideas as of how this sport can be legalize and come out with a complicated regulations in which require participation TDM and PDRM. Therefore, We suggest a few procedure that airsofter enthusiast need to follow;
1) Government must limit number of airsoft that can be purchased by enthusiast
2) Government must limit number of legal airsoft skirmish ground
3) Enthusiast are to go for complete Territorial Army basic training
4) Enthusiast are required to apply for licence upon owning the airsoft
5) All airsoft gun are to be registered and marked by KBS for tracking purpose
6) All airsoft gun are to be stored in legal airsoft armoury
7) Limit the FPS for airsoft ( suggestion; 400 FPS for AEGs and 550 for sniper class AEGs)
8) Report any airsoft loss to the law enforcement.

What we suggest might be absurd; especially the part where you have to go for Territorial Army training. However, with such training, enthusiast will be taught the required dicipline in handling harmless items which can be turn into weapon with respect and like cyrusvirus said, there are things in life that we need to earn and I seriously agreed with him. If airsofter can be purchase in normal circumstances where normal regulations are needed, they tend to misuse for evil deed. If we have to earn it instead, than the more you appreciate it when we have it. At the end of the day, regardless how strict the rules were laid, if enthusiast have passion, nothing boundries will halt their march and at the end of the day, there will still be misdeed happen even with the strictest mean of regulation laid on the ground. The least we could do is to limit it.

As for sir Cyrusvirus question,
We stumbled upon a book entitled "U.S Army Ranger Guidelines". With this book, along with the help of a few veteren, we will try to employ appropriate simulated tactics and manoeuvre. We would like the game to be more interesting instead of the same " Crush, Kill and Destroy" type of game

True enough sir. Like we mention before, it only takes a few bad ones to bring the rest of us down and we deny not the flaw that exist in our government system. Regardless, such flaw are not to be shouldered by all members of the government and law enforcement alone. It come back to us, the citizens. Even with perfect guidelines and enforcement by the law, there will still be individual who are trigger-happy. So, the sole reason for all the procedure guidelines that we suggest are to actually select a mentally fit, diciplined and respectful interested individual to own the airsoft. As such we can narrow down and limit the number of people who own airsoft legally, thus reducing probability of crimes with airsoft to happen. As a fellow citizens, we agree that our government and law enforcement are full of loopholes, but we still have faith in them. They eventually will realize this and fix the problem they have. It just a matter of time.

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Added on September 26, 2008, 5:55 pmDear sir,
What you mention about the pioneer of airsoft game are right. Unfortunately, we are not with the airsoft pioneer. Due to lack of practise arena, we would not emphasise on tactics and strategies on MOUT (Military Operation in Urban Terrain) and CQB (Close quarter combat) class mission. Instead, we will focus on Jungle Warfare tactical manouevre. As for the last question, let just say we prefer to be polite and respectful towards each other as our airsoft community are relatively small in comparison to other country. As you mentioned before sir cyrusvirus, respect and trust are to be earn.

"The differences between war and genocide and between a barbarian and gentleman are act of chivalry"

This post has been edited by WarHawk: Sep 26 2008, 05:55 PM

You are correct sir, in a simple word, the hop up system spin the BB when it is fired, leading to increase in range of fire. It's all physics. Range of fire are generally determined by two factor; your gun FPS and your BB weight. 0.2 gram BB have better range but less accurate than it's heavier brother 0.25g BB. 0.25, have better accuracy but the trade off are shorter range of fire. My personal favourite are 0.23 g but it is so hard to find 0.23g BB in Malaysia. It was so easy when I was in U.S...

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Added on September 27, 2008, 9:39 amI second your opinion sir. Instead of the term "gun", let's change it into less appealing term to avoid extra attention from unwanted party.

This post has been edited by WarHawk: Sep 27 2008, 09:39 AM

Let's discuss about the BDU ( Battle Dress Uniform). Should "players" in Malaysia wear Green camouflage uniform?

True enough. Their mps will round you up mercilessly. Unlike police, our fellow servicemen are tough pridefull bunch. civilians like us don't deserve to wear the green camo let alone the insignia. As for me, I think they earn their right for those tiger stripes camouflage. If we are allowed to wear it out in public, we will dishonor those servicemen who earn those uniform with their sweat, blood and tears. It's more to honor and pride rather than legal issue for me.

It is truly right mate. The problem regarding airsoft, in my opinion didn't lie in the price or availability of the gun, as enthusiast understood that the price are expensive. I do see the problem lies in the people itself. As such, the regulation we wrote seriosly to select the qualified enthusiast to own one. This will limit ownership of airsoft gun to a number of traceable individuals. As such, sir Farenheit mentioning the SOS rule ( shoot on sight) for any robber who attempt any heist with automatic assault rifle ( or replica). It's a good idea. Those who pose extreme harm should be taught a grave lesson. They should eat their own medicine. Sorry for the harsh comment

Dear sir,
It seem that you are experienced in paintball. On top of that, you have already won a medal. Why quit while you can actually achieve more?. With paintball recognized by the government as a legal sport, I am certain a man of your caliber can go the distance. From your description, you seem to own LPEG class airsoft. It's good for starter but the setbacks are lower FPS and inconsistent reliability due to the usage of low voltage battery, plastic gear, low power motor and of course, no quality control from manufacturer. I wanted to stress the need for our fellow members in the forum to be more mature regarding the owning and using airsoft. Please do not shoot people, animal and any living being ( that include lizard, cockroach, stray dogs and cats) for fun because we do not have the right to take the live of other being for the sake of fun and pleasure.

This post has been edited by WarHawk: Oct 3 2008, 03:46 AM

Hi mate,
It's been a while since I post anything on this thread. Apparently there are a lot of angry mob inside, I wonder what actually happen. Regardless, It is always in my mind that this forum could be used as a good platform to channel ideas on getting airsoft to be legalized. Another point to adress, I understand that some of enthusiast here are truly new to this hobby, but to ask every single simple question that you can actually get the answer by doing a little homework certainly irritate certain members. As for our group, we have four training session in the last 5 weeks and thanks to our member's dedication, WARHAWK EACG are growing bigger and bigger. We wish to thank you for your support

P/S - sksc, your "toy" rocks!

Sincerely,
Warhawk

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Added on October 27, 2008, 10:26 pmHi mate. A piece of advice - If you are looking for cheap AEGs, be sure to do a little homework before buying one. Some of the "cheap" brand gun (ex; CYMA, JG, DBoyi) can actually compete or sometimes surpass "super brand" like KWA, TM or Systema out of the box. As for upgradeability, since most of the "cheap" brand are actually clone from TM, it is quite easy to find spare part so long that you can find the word "TM parts compatible" ( unless you are getting something like AGM FN-FAL SLR).
As for springer, don't modify it. The cost of doing it exceed the price of the gun itself. Due to weak or no quality control in producing the springer, there is a high chance that your springer will fail you even if after you put so much effort in modding it.

cheers

This post has been edited by WarHawk: Oct 27 2008, 10:30 PM

Hi mate,
As we know this is a "red" hobby. We should stay low and frosty, unless you plan to invite troubles to your door. We do not know who are watching us.

sincerely,
warhawk

This post has been edited by WarHawk: Oct 28 2008, 09:26 AM

Thank you, mate and that's right mate; the motto from our group's Airsoft 101 handbook - "Respect, Honor, Organized"

Sincerely,
Warhawk.

This post has been edited by WarHawk: Oct 28 2008, 12:57 PM

Hi mate,
Have you ever thought, that if the government legalize airsoft as a sport, how they can regulate the selling of the toy?. MASOC are suggesting installation of a tracking chip in each of the toy. Is it practical to do so? or what do you think if we issue a new bill in the parliament that airsoft are just a toy until it is misused. If individual misuse it, then it will become a firearm ( then the guy who use for the wrong reason will be charged under firearm act). British parliament and some state in US approve this Bill and put it into act. Or we just make it like the military camp - spray a serial number and kept it in the armoury?. This is the best three option I can think of. Maybe we can discuss the pro and cons of each option or, maybe some of us can pour in a better ideas!

P/S - By the way, a "better idea" mean a "good usefull ideas that can be put into consideration for practical purpose".

Sincerely,
WARHAWK

If gun are outlawed, only outlaw will have gun

This post has been edited by WarHawk: Oct 28 2008, 07:29 PM

Hi mate,
I only saw pessimist reasoning here with no fresh ideas. the point here is to weight the pro and con of the ideas , not solely judge them from one timid perspective. After we outweight the cons and pros via justifiable reasoning, then we decide wether the ideas is practical or not. There is no perfect ideas and flaw will always be there, even in a good idea. The least we could do is to minimize and control the flaw that present in the idea the best we can.

Sincerely,
WARHAWK

This post has been edited by WarHawk: Oct 28 2008, 07:38 PM

No worry, mates. You pointed out the cons, now let's see the pros

Hi mate,
Do you mind telling us how the RFID works, what are pros and cons and of course, the cost of each unit?

Thank you mate myboo for clarifying the matter above. We are here not to do business. we are here to exchange ideas and discuss on how can we get this hobby legalized and what should we, the society wholisticly approach this shocking issue.

I see. Interesting and the system is quite cheap and affordable. Let say that we manage to put all the three option we have into action, what are the good and bad consequences this will lay to our society and how can we manage and downsize the problems that arise from flood of AEgs? and how could AEgs owner contribute back to society?

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Added on October 28, 2008, 11:39 pmPray to god it will happen, mate, and we shall taste the joy together

This post has been edited by WarHawk: Oct 28 2008, 11:39 PM

Hi mate,
Now I saw a more mature and constructive discussion. That a better things to do rather than posting some immature adolescence-like comments ( Sorry if I am being rude). I suggest oligopoly on the subject pertaining airsoft distribution. meaning we will have 4-5 companies distributing legal airsoft at one time, so price can be standardized and controlled to an affordable level. On top of that, the will be quota limitation per year as of how many airsoft can be sell. This way we can regulate and control the number of airsoft presence in the market. Those who apply for airsoft operator will be given complete course as of how should they conduct themselves in and off the skirmish field. Those who fail to abide the standard regulation will severely punished. As for the three matter on how can we regulate airsoft that I write earlier, it is always on mind to see all three to be put into an act. The tighter the rules are, the better for us. For those who are capable to abide rules, they won't feel any discomfort but for those "cowboys" like individuals, this will certainly choke them.
Irresponsible individual should be kept away from airsoft. At the end of the day, it still our attitude that bring this hobby down sinking deep in the ocean. It only take few guys with bad attitude to spoil the rest of us and it will take only few of us wth bad attitude to shatter the confidence of the respected authorities bodies towards us.

Sincerely,
WARHAWK

True enough mate Nick. The Police IAD ( Internal Affair department) will close the book and will not prosecute the cop if the cop shot you because you draw and threat him first and as such he have right to preserve his life and carry his duty. As for matter containing, controlling, regulating the airsoft purchase, why don't we put it on our shoulder instead of letting the authorities do it. In other words,, instead of government provide funding for the card reader and installation of the chips, we put it in the price of every airsoft we purchase. Meaning, the price of airsoft we purchase will cover the chips installed in the toy and card reader that the distributing company will provide the authorities ( given the fact that card reader and achips are cheap)

This post has been edited by WarHawk: Oct 29 2008, 02:08 PM