Exp Chinese Review
http://www.expreview.com/review/2008-09-19...7775d10042.html

1. It runs much better in games. At this stage it's expected to beat a 3Ghz Athlon 6000+, might even win the 6400+.
2. It uses 20W more compared to K8. Mostly because AMD's 65nm Phenoms had some problems scaling down. Undervolt for less power use though.
3. It OCs to 3.3Ghz with SB750. On air.
4. ~RM350 I think.

Clock for clock compared to the old Athlons:
Normal Apps: 5-10%
Special cases (Excel, TMPEnc): ~50%
Games: 20+%

Comments? This is one of the more decent CPUs AMD has made this year (compared to a ****ton of undervalued crap). It's still meant for OCers who are gamers, who use AM2+ and are looking for a cheap upgrade. I'll wait for Deneb (need quad core) but for the RM300-400 range, this is the new AMD CPU to get. Not for sissies though.

So much for the people who said that Phenoms are bad for gaming, get a dual core instead, ey?

Remember this is 2.3Ghz


This post has been edited by X.E.D: Sep 21 2008, 08:44 AM

my impression at first is why amd made a proc which is a lot more lower ghz,izzit becoz pressure from intel tat make them go crazy,but naw,the answer is in front me!shocked when c da result! and da price is alot more lower then 6400+,but can surpass it at same clock speed!wowow!!

athlon 6000 has 3ghz
athlon 6500 has 2.3ghz

juz the name

New naming scheme.

6000+ vs 6500. No "+"s.

Phenomthlon , finally a decent one among X2.
AMD made this to replace all the X2 processors ?
good one for the price.

..still cant beat and touch the CORE2 QUAD Q6600.

maybe,but look at the price,and it is dual core,cant compare to quad core,it isnt fair

lol u sesat ah?

the fact and fate r like that!!
sesak nafas..

This post has been edited by viperiii: Sep 21 2008, 09:27 AM

hardcore fan detected .. i think we here to discus improvement, not be the hardcore fan like u working at intel
dual vs quad??

This post has been edited by xixo_12: Sep 21 2008, 09:29 AM

Yep, the exact fact that you're a joke.

Daren't compare the Q6600 to the 9950 now, eh?

yes it is a fact,i dun deny it..but u cant compare that proc with Q6600..same like compare p4 with c2q...

well.. Im an AMD fan.. but we need to admit that x2 chip is deferior than Intel Quad Core Q6600, lost in every benchmark!!

-Peter-

bout the improvement, i really want to noe tis proc use what watt?oledi available?maybe ill give it a try..for my bro rig,as i myself waiting for deneb..

TDP's 95W, actual power usage is ~70W or so.

(5000+ @ 2.3Ghz uses 55W maybe, K10 2.3Ghz 6500 uses 20W extra, so 75W)

its ok as long not 140w TDP...thx bro

PHENOM x3 is a good bargain for now...
get the PHENOM x3 8450e which using only 65 Watts power, saving a bit of your electrical bills..

-Peter-

want to see real life test...

I just install a older PHENOM x3 8450 system for one of my best friends.
I would says that.. the PHENOM x3 processor got a superb internet connection speed over the previous generation, ATHLON 64 x2...
If you dont believe it, U can built up U own system and try it..
AMD PHENOM processor, good internet connection speed!!
However, I want more and more people to install it and prove it to me..

-Peter-

good internet connection?

dont make silly statement w/o any prove ( at least a screen shot )

walawehh ini orang..what a statement.. where he learn?

This post has been edited by xixo_12: Sep 21 2008, 10:28 AM

Think we could start a club, there. Or perhaps there's a mythical link between processor and internet speed that has not been discovered before our resident "expert" here discovered it?

Back on topic though, since the 2.3GHz already beats the 3.0, what happens when it's OC-ed to 3.0 itself? Any results on that?

I think Intel actually advertised that on 1 Pentium series before this.




I forgot which one it was, though.

http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/AMD-Ph...ocessor/?page=4
http://www.techspot.com/review/95-amd-phen...nce/page12.html

and including your real world tests too...

-Peter-

well , Im pointing the statement which you typed.

AMD X3 8450 makes your internet speed faster ?

stick with topic.

Actually guys,if there was no TLB Bug for Current Phenom(Agena),this year AMD will eventually build the 45nm already..If you see the last year roadmap it is.Since it has TLB bug,it has been delayed.So AMD made conclusion that Phenom X2 will be made using 45nm transition.
I still wonders hows on gaming compare to >Intel
I hate when they compare not equivalent on what the processor needs to compare

erk..giving another link.. that the benchmark in some application.. not internet connection

In games vs the E5200, which is 2.5Ghz.

Overall, if at 2.5Ghz vs 2.5Ghz (200Mhz is literally free OC on the 6500 also) the 6500 wins out slightly, or is even with the E5200.

If you turn up the Northbridge speed to 2Ghz instead of 1.8 you might see some increases too. 2.4 and 2.6Ghz are even more aggressive settings.









This post has been edited by X.E.D: Sep 21 2008, 12:43 PM

nice info there , X.E.D .

seems like 6500 is interesting , I wonder how they compare with 6000+ on game.

seems that Phenomthlon performance very close to Core 2 performance? (same clock speed)

compatible wif any am2 board? or oni for am2+ board?

a good upgrade while waiting for deneb...

when this gem arrive in Msia?

i bliv am2+ mobo only..

It MIGHT work with AM2 boards if there are BIOS updates.

Most likely not.

this the joke of the year...

lol

can i quote this as my siggy

Why not? Comedic quote of the day...

Anyway, the 6500+ looks interesting... Hope to see a full review soon (versus 6000+/6400+ and other Core 2 Duos).

Here's a short benchmark that includes 6000+;

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-6272-vie...on-X2-6000.html

Go, go 6500! >>

K10 architecture

anyone know what makes 6500 run faster even the core clock is lower ? its still running at 2Ghz HT right ?

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This post has been edited by 168257061: Sep 21 2008, 06:43 PM

K10 architecture, HT3.0 i believe

Oh I dunno, maybe in the 2 years between K8X2 and K10 they did *something*?

Funny these scores make all the Digit-Life numbers look pathetically sad... as if someone gave them a lump sum of cash. Plus, it's Russian. Xbit has done the same thing for so many years for ATI vs nVidia.

Hmmmm when are we going to see this on the retail channel eh?
Hope to see it soon..
I'm lookin forward to it to replace my 5000+ BE...

Prcoessor Can Make Internet Connection Speed Faster?

Any Theory To Support This Statement?

just ignore it and rofl with buddies

internet speed?
how is that again???
maybe im too long already abandon comp hardwares stuff

Chow

I mean maintain a good internet connection speed over time... prevent internet connection down for a long time..

-Peter-

Maybe it's just that the mobo have a better Ethernet connection... Or a better LAN card, WiFi card... uh, something to that effect. After all, it is an entirely new computer, right? If not, bleh.

I don't really think the processor can really make internet connection faster.

you breaking my heart
6000+ x2 user here
PS: a processor is NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INTERNET CONNECTION SPEED
am i rite?

This post has been edited by onimusha333: Sep 21 2008, 10:22 PM

you are damn right...

internet connection speed are determined by your subscription to the ISP

ok, thanks for the info..

given you superconductor cable link to the streamyx , it will still return you a crappy speed

....

Is there anything left to say? Seriously?

shud i change mah cpu so that my internets speed would be 2mb from 512? lawl

hahahahaha funny la dat guy.... all head in da office suddenly turn to me when i laugh...hahahahahhaa


btw my motherboards bios already update to the latest that support 6500 but i cant find da proc here... when arrrr?


This post has been edited by zonan4: Sep 25 2008, 05:06 PM

Use this processor can make my torrent from 10kb to 1000000kb/s, woohooo who cares bout HSBB rite guys? u rock viperii... thx to amd..

internet speed depends on cpu L2 cache

my cpu L2 cache is 1MB, hence my internet speed is 1MB

are you serious , no ?

Epic !

He did it for the lulz

God bless Dunnington.