Exp Chinese Review
http://www.expreview.com/review/2008-09-19...7775d10042.html

1. It runs much better in games. At this stage it's expected to beat a 3Ghz Athlon 6000+, might even win the 6400+.
2. It uses 20W more compared to K8. Mostly because AMD's 65nm Phenoms had some problems scaling down. Undervolt for less power use though.
3. It OCs to 3.3Ghz with SB750. On air.
4. ~RM350 I think.

Clock for clock compared to the old Athlons:
Normal Apps: 5-10%
Special cases (Excel, TMPEnc): ~50%
Games: 20+%

Comments? This is one of the more decent CPUs AMD has made this year (compared to a ****ton of undervalued crap). It's still meant for OCers who are gamers, who use AM2+ and are looking for a cheap upgrade. I'll wait for Deneb (need quad core) but for the RM300-400 range, this is the new AMD CPU to get. Not for sissies though.

So much for the people who said that Phenoms are bad for gaming, get a dual core instead, ey?

Remember this is 2.3Ghz


This post has been edited by X.E.D: Sep 21 2008, 08:44 AM

my impression at first is why amd made a proc which is a lot more lower ghz,izzit becoz pressure from intel tat make them go crazy,but naw,the answer is in front me!shocked when c da result! and da price is alot more lower then 6400+,but can surpass it at same clock speed!wowow!!

athlon 6000 has 3ghz
athlon 6500 has 2.3ghz

juz the name

New naming scheme.

6000+ vs 6500. No "+"s.

Phenomthlon , finally a decent one among X2.
AMD made this to replace all the X2 processors ?
good one for the price.

..still cant beat and touch the CORE2 QUAD Q6600.

maybe,but look at the price,and it is dual core,cant compare to quad core,it isnt fair

lol u sesat ah?

the fact and fate r like that!!
sesak nafas..

This post has been edited by viperiii: Sep 21 2008, 09:27 AM

hardcore fan detected .. i think we here to discus improvement, not be the hardcore fan like u working at intel
dual vs quad??

This post has been edited by xixo_12: Sep 21 2008, 09:29 AM

Yep, the exact fact that you're a joke.

Daren't compare the Q6600 to the 9950 now, eh?

yes it is a fact,i dun deny it..but u cant compare that proc with Q6600..same like compare p4 with c2q...

well.. Im an AMD fan.. but we need to admit that x2 chip is deferior than Intel Quad Core Q6600, lost in every benchmark!!

-Peter-

bout the improvement, i really want to noe tis proc use what watt?oledi available?maybe ill give it a try..for my bro rig,as i myself waiting for deneb..

TDP's 95W, actual power usage is ~70W or so.

(5000+ @ 2.3Ghz uses 55W maybe, K10 2.3Ghz 6500 uses 20W extra, so 75W)

its ok as long not 140w TDP...thx bro

PHENOM x3 is a good bargain for now...
get the PHENOM x3 8450e which using only 65 Watts power, saving a bit of your electrical bills..

-Peter-

want to see real life test...

I just install a older PHENOM x3 8450 system for one of my best friends.
I would says that.. the PHENOM x3 processor got a superb internet connection speed over the previous generation, ATHLON 64 x2...
If you dont believe it, U can built up U own system and try it..
AMD PHENOM processor, good internet connection speed!!
However, I want more and more people to install it and prove it to me..

-Peter-