nowadays no many cc have good challengers, where can i find a place where theres good players?

ANTI DOTA HATERS STAY OUT!

Try asia cafe?

I guess I quite good there since I patronize that place quite a lot. It's actually FTZ next to Asia Cafe. Yeah I been to other CCs and I never seen people make any harassing, or denying. It's like I give Tinker free kill. I let Tinker farm freely and do not harass him and let him kill me. In Asia Cafe, Tinker do not get first blood easily. It would get harass from the start. So do not expect easy kills just because you are tinker.

They try and harass you since the start of the game. I think you need quite a high level of play in FTZ otherwise you will surely get scolded.

Perhaps that is the reason as to why there are more leavers. People just cannot keep up and end up getting abused, scolded and they end up leaving

But I have seen quite a number of noobs recently. Are they from other CCs. Hmmm,

Which CC do you patronize anyway?

This post has been edited by sylar111: Sep 20 2008, 02:31 PM

erm...
not only cybercafe...
at home oso can play..use GG client ?
dont join those newbie room...join those high level rooms, and yea obviously, you nid to have a high level to join those rooms(not your skills level, its your GG client level)..

but certainly, dota isnt a THAT competitive game, so its hard to find a competitive place to play dota...

I am not a dotard. But I can give you a good suggestion. Asia Cafe at night only

If dota is not a competitive game why there are so many dota competitions?

dota is micro intensive if you play at pro level...

Any game can be the same if you play it at pro level mister.

DotA competitions are everywhere because it happens to be very popular among the gaming society. For what reason I do not know. Could be the low graphics required to play the game (so you can probably play in any CC or even with a low-end rig) and the level of randomness you can find in the game (that attracts so many people).

For me, it was simply to entertain my friends when they ask me out

Anyway, it's just a matter of preference. You still like it, I don't anymore

Please don't abuse the word micro-intensive if u do not know how to use it in the right places =.="

Leave them alone and let them be/say/do whatever they like since they'll never listen.Stubborn DotArds.

They stay in their section,we stay in our section.Peace and everyone happy.Dont tell me you want to see bullshit from them in any real RTS game's thread.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Sep 20 2008, 11:38 PM

Look what DotA did to you

I suggest home where you can scold using any words you want without offending other people.

most competitive place to play dota - local and international competition if win u get usd 50k loo and u go home and split the money with 5 other losers


Most competitive place to play Wc3-tft - WCG if u win u get USD600k loo
And u get a job as game tester in Blizzard. u get paid 5k usd a month lo

This post has been edited by selenium: Sep 21 2008, 12:21 PM

Kingsurf.net

im looking also...

lan or ggc?

+1
This made me LOL, DotA = Micro-intensive? Funny.

edited:

This post has been edited by sylar111: Sep 24 2008, 04:33 PM

I think it depends on what hero you are playing... some heroes require more micro than other heroes. I have to agree with most of the ppl that Chen is the most micro intensive hero in DOTA.


This post has been edited by Golden: Sep 25 2008, 10:28 PM

go johor...^^

except ftz n asia or ggarena , WCG Infinity genting klang is not a bad choices also. Frm their battlelan , u can challange wif alots local dota-ers from various of states.

but , normally will vs with noob = =" the good things is , although thr is noob but thr not leaver ^^"

Very hard meah??

if you dont play strategy maybe la.

First of all... have you played Chen?

I think you only choose AP and pick an overpowered hero to get easy win...

First of all... have you played Frozen Throne?

I think you only choose dota and pick one hero to have easy controls

LOLz...every hero is special because of their skills,chen with good control over neutral creeps,balanar with good timing to see the current time n when to up those skils,zeus to check on any low hp heroes in the map and so on lar...

Btw,I am a noob so try to avoid me if u see me in any CC...haha...or GGC...

Easy Controls? play at pro level and u will know how difficult it is...

Easier then Frozen Throne? play with people and u will know how difficult it is...

This post has been edited by befitozi: Sep 27 2008, 09:22 PM

I think u only play with AI in DOTA....and I only play against pros...

thats why we have different views....

I think u only play with AI in Frozen Throne....

thats why we have different views....

its called melee not frozen throne.

frozen throne is just the program, melee is the game.

its called a map not game.
dota is just the map, warcraft3 is the game.

I am too lazy to argue with you... i think you play melee just to showoff your skills...

every warcraft 3 game uses map.. if no map how to play?

Oh no, you are gravely mistaken.

I'm too weak to play melee. Like you, i play dota. But at least im not stupid to like you to say dota needs more micro then melee. At least im not stupid like you to say dota is created by blizzard.

Did Cheesunum really make that quote? Wow then he is a real retard then.

he is not retarded, just an annoying troll who likes to come here and say something bad about dota... like how sucks dota is...etc

Its called sarcasm. Some people dont get it.

LOL,it's just sarcasm.

Golden is the real retard who believe in everything i wrote.

seconded

golden a retard...

hahaha....just for the lulz

Yes chen is a very hard hero to master, only a master can truly master a hero like chen, for example odin of autosurf, nowadays you cant see many people who play chen like he does or even play chen in a competitive high level play. Imagine controlling hero 4 heroes with helm of dominator of course, if youre good at it then the advantage is in your hand but if your not it would be a waste.

Melee games dont have this, is just attack and pull back, rebuild but for chen creeps its micro intensive ,you must position it carefully, so everything works out well, not to mention that your ulti saves 4 of your allies , so you have to be alert all the time.

I think this is the hero that most anti dota haters hate most because they cant micro chen very well

Melee games isnt that simple.You need to scout,base expansion,base management etc.

DotA just use one third of the skills needed for melee games since it throws macro out of the window.

can you stop stalking me? Are you trying to provoke me and force me to tell where my whereabouts are?

scout=what are the observer wards for or skills like nerubian weaver which spawns units to scout around

as for management and expansion we wouldnt have been called it defend of the ancient if we werent protecting it and taking down the opponents throne would we to furtherly progress?

4 heroes???
Oh my god... you don't even know what's the different between a hero and a creep.
Most of the creep (in DOTA) have only 1 skill. How to compare with heroes which has 4 skills.
There is only one neutral creep that has 2 skills.

As for melee game, most of the time you will get 2 heroes, which means you have to KNOW WHEN TO CAST WHAT FOR 2 HEROES (as compared to DOTA 1 HERO).

As for spell casting units , you will need to know when to cast what spell (from heal, inner fire, blood lust, cripple, unholy frenzy... too many spell to list down).
To make it simple, each of sorceress, witch doctor, necromancer, druid of wind ... etc.. has 3 skills to use.
As for other units, some of them also have skills, like dragon hawk rider, footman etc...
And you get to control like 10 to 20 of them during a battle...

Melee game pro players are able to control each and every unit separately to get maximum efficiency.

In term of micromanagement, for pro melee game player can control a hell lot better than DOTA.


BTW, whatever you reply on this, I won't bother to answer anymore.

Im not stalking you.Why the hell i want to stalk someone like you? You are one hell of seriously misinformed person.

Using wards or weaver up front is not what call scouting.It isnt that hard to do in DotA and scouting is pretty much non existent in DotA because you'll see your enemies anyway.No like people gonna train in the forest for the entire game.Even if someone really train in the forest,you'll find it anyway.

Defend or attacking ancient is not a part of management or expansion.It's just nothing more like defending your own base or attack your opponent's base in any RTS.Do you need build an army? Or divide your forces to protect an expansion of your base in DotA? You dont even have to manage a base in DotA.The build in script does it all for you.You just sit there and control a few unit,in worst case scenario.

Most of the time,you just control one hero,or the most,a few more summoned creatures.Is that gonna be harder than controlling a full base that is suppose to supply you with new units and micro manage all your units at the same time? Not one but dozens of them that half of them have more than 2 skills. At the same time,you are expanding into new resource points to get more resource income. Doing all these simultaneously is harder than DotA?

Have you played any other games than DotA?

Command and Conquer 3? Company of Heroes? Dawn of War? Melee Warcraft 3? Starcraft? Have you tried any of them?

There is more to gaming than DotA.

I doubt these dotards can even control anything to surround and block opponent units with units. I bet if they see it they will go WTF what bug is this my hero stuck..

fyi, in melee games ppl control over 20 units with possibly 10/20 of those units have at least 3 casts each. like what shadow_0 said

This post has been edited by befitozi: Sep 29 2008, 07:56 PM

erm,mindcry,or mindf***,do you own a brain,if you do,then im truly sorry,you said anti-dota haters stay out,so that means i can come in,anywayz,doesnt matter what cc u in.only depends if find a good challenge.i hope you go soon,youve been screweing WOW forum.just please dont talk in WOW forum,almost every forum in lowyat hates you.

go clan war room in ggc and jio for draft match lo.
unless u wanna play pub. then its not competitive anymore isnt it?

oh.. it reminder me those day i need to do manual cast spell from Hero and mage unit..

Ftz in ss15 when u play alone losing percentage = 50%!
Wf fren winning rate = 100%
That`s my experience

Why do you hate Dota so much? Dotaphobia?

swt swt swt

stop comparing melee maps and dota. it's totally different.

wats so bad about dota anyway?! besides the hours spent playing continuous games and the money spent at cc. swt

It's people like you who are making me sick of DotA.

I have nothing against Ice Frog and DotA is probably one of the best modification around,without retards like you.

Seriously,just stay away from any other thread.RA3 doesnt need any WC3 editor as EA is giving the community a full SDK,models import/export tools,map builder.Modders can modify a game better with a SDK and really wacky mods will appear.

It does make people closed minded like Golden and Mindcry who cant accept anything other than DotA.Trolling around spreading false information.Indirectly saying melee and other RTS is inferior compare to DotA.

These people need to open their eyes and try something,other than DotA.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 4 2008, 10:48 AM

You do know that by reacting like how you did just means that you gave in to their trolling? Feed troll moar?

:|

Just leave these dotards alone.. Its ok if they stay in their own thread.

If not,what you expect me to do.Let more people misinformed that DotA is a MMORPG made by Blizzard?

I think they are just about to invade our section.

If they touch the Holy Terra,i will fight back.

Death to the heretics.

Anyone who believed that is too gullible to survive in the real world so why bother?

cheese : swt. if you think that what they spread around are lies then there's always the report button. really. don't bother. no point chasing them around and bashing everything they say. makes you just like them.

Hmmm... true.

Dun think mods will care.

At least i know now there are some good dota players out there.

The retards should just roll over and die la.

they do care about trolls. and i'm pretty sure that for every dota player, they should know the game as how they know it. so, whatever they say won't affect other dota players.

for example, chen and meepo requires abit more micro skills than other heroes. yes. but when it comes to a competitive level, what matters? your proness in microing or teamwork between your other 4 teammates?

btw, who r you, mindcry

cc with alot of lalamuis

Mindcry is the biggest dotard around.

Go see his sig la.I think you also .

IMO,micro doesnt really matter in DotA.You got a few unit to control.Team work and timing like knowing what to do at in each situation are much more important.

Thats why i cant play DotA.My timing suxs and im blur in RTS but i have decent micro.Im trying to improve it even more.Usually just quickly finish my opponents in early game and GG.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 4 2008, 02:13 PM

gee. really swt. but whois he. he knows Odin?

Who's Odin?

Just some problematic rich kid la.

he mentioned Odin. another dota player.

Oh,dunno la.

That guy got some serious problem la.Nothing to do with DotA but the way he treat his family.He wants his grandma to die earlier so that he can inherit everything on her will.He posted that on Kopitiam few weeks ago.

Kids these days.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 4 2008, 02:32 PM

my conclusion is that cheesenium dont even know what is trolling lol

Sorry man,im not a troll.

You are a troll.

+1

LOL, Cheesenium; relax....=D

Just ignore them only =)