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post Nov 24 2009, 08:02 PM

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Hi. I have never used a GPS and got some questions and seeking some answers. Thanks in advance.

Assuming I went for some jungle trekking and carry a GPS phone like the Nokia E52. After returning back to my office, is there a way for it to show where I have been in the jungle? And superimpose it on a map? The route I have taken. The place that I have stopped (and a way to make remark that I stopped at that place for some particular reason)?

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post Nov 25 2009, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Nov 24 2009, 08:34 PM)
Haha I hv been doing this as my past time hobby for years..sure you can. You can either using the following software to record your tracks...

1) Garmin MXt
2) Race Chrono http://www.racechrono.com/download/
3) Velox http://www.veloxgps.de/
4) Nokia sport trackers &
5) more

The 1st 3 are my best companion..& no 1, is the usual navigation software (U need to buy the license)

Here's the sample of my past mountain bike tracklogs showing the router, Avg speed & also altitude recorded via race chrono & re-payed using Garminmapsource:

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Here's mine using Velox & uploaded to their website:
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Thanks. Can I also, say I stopped at a place of interest, record in some remark into the phone for later reference?

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post Mar 18 2010, 01:23 PM

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How to check the Garmin XT in your phone is a legal version?

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post Mar 19 2010, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(SyedBrix @ Mar 19 2010, 04:10 AM)
look at box or microsdcard. or register your product online.
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Dealer installed for me. Never seen any card or box. So how to check?

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post Mar 19 2010, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Deani_77 @ Mar 19 2010, 11:40 AM)
Which dealer, phone dealer or Garmin dealer? If phone dealer and they charge you around RM50, most probably that was illegal software they installed it for you.
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How much the original software? And if they already installed the software and it is working, is there a way to buy a legal code to insert without having to go thro' all those uninstallaiton and reinstallation?

I am assuming, with legal software, I can go to Garmin website to download free maps?

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post Mar 19 2010, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Deani_77 @ Mar 19 2010, 12:13 PM)
You can check out with authorized Garmin dealer for latest software for GMXT or you can dig out previous post in this thread. For key-in the registration code I think you need to un-install the the software and install it back but may other ppl have better solution.

To use Garmin map you need to buy it even you have the legal software because it been sold separately. That why most  of the GPS user go to MFM and MSM for free map in Malaysia.
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And how and where can you find out what maps the dealer installed into my phone? Thanks

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post Mar 19 2010, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(SyedBrix @ Mar 19 2010, 04:22 PM)
tools section
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I went into Garmin Tools and under Map Sets, it says East Malaysia Ver. 2.30; East Malaysia Ver. 2.30; West Malaysia Ver. 2.30 (unlocked). 40.3MB

Also in another folder, it says Worldwide Roads Basemap 10.5MB

What does it means?

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post Mar 20 2010, 06:36 AM

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I suppose to replace the old map, you can not do it inside Garmin? Or do you go into File Manager and go to:

E:\Garmin and remove both these files called GMAPBMAP.IMG AND GMAPSUPP.IMG?

And then just cut and paste newer version to E:\Garmin?


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post Mar 28 2010, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(NewbieHero @ Mar 24 2010, 11:35 AM)
never delete the gmapbmap.img
just delete the old gmapsupp and cut the new one into the folder.
never keep 2 gmapsupp in a folder, 1 is enough
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So what's the latest gmapsupp version number?

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post Apr 2 2010, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 2 2010, 09:37 PM)
if you're new to phone gps, nokia ovi maps is the perfet place to start with. it has very fast initial gps satellite lock down period, and the map can be panned around and zoomed in/out without any lag. unluckily, the roads and POIs are awfully skimpy.
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I upgraded from the Nokia Maps 3.01 to 3.03 and the newer version has much better integration to the phone. Furthermore, the 3.01 needs a minute or more to lock onto satellite without using AGPS. But the 3.03 can lock on within seconds.

But a word of caution. The new 3.03 seems to use 12MB more of the phone memory. Yes, a whopping 12MB more.


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post Apr 5 2010, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(lanvin @ Apr 4 2010, 11:52 PM)
Hello,

i'm very interested to get a GPS phone. Been carrying my leica GS20 around, which is bulky. I'm wondering will any smart phone has the capacity to support GIS software like ArcPAD? Also, will existing GPS phone be able to give GPS reading for 'off road' condition. Means if i am standing in middle of a football field middle of a felda settlement instead of on Jalan Bukit Bintang, will the phone still able to get my location? As i understand, currently most phone GPS are A-GPS, so if off road, will  it still be able to function well?

Another question, if smart phone can support GPS as of GS20, will the phone be able to receive JUPEM's MyRTKnet DGPS correction?

I'm looking at Nokia E72. Any comments? thanks.
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Can only answer part of your question. Without AGPS, the Nokia can still locate the satellite and give you your co-ordinate anywhere in the world. All you need are clear sky and patience...say....a couple of minutes.
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post Apr 5 2010, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Apr 5 2010, 02:31 AM)
no wonder...last time i open at sabah..now come back to kl i open the map stuck thr..lol thanks bro
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I reckon these smartphone has some sort of "memory". Once you got satellite lock while standing at Location A, then switched off GPS and switched on again, it can re-acquire satellite lock within seconds. But once you move to another Location B that is a few kilometer away, ti will take a couple of minutes. Once I went to Location C that is a thousand kilometer away, it took about 5 minutes or more on my E52. Of course not using AGPS.


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post Apr 5 2010, 05:54 PM

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The GPS co-ordinate are supposed to be within 10 meter accuracy. But from the reading I got with Nokia Maps and Garmin on my Nokia phone and then comparing it with google satellite map, sometime they can be as far off by 40 meters. At other times, they can be dead accurate. Anyone noticing that? So, how to improve accuracy all the time?

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post Apr 6 2010, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(NewbieHero @ Apr 6 2010, 10:54 AM)
turn on A-GPS & network based option and u might improve ur accuracy.
open ur window for both drivers and passengers side (the tint on ur window affects the accuracy)
40 metres is still acceptable la anyway, quite common
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I was using AGPS (but no Network based assistance) and standing away from the car and stationary under clear sky in rural areas with gentle rolling hills (meaning there are no reflective tall building). Yet the reading can sometimes be inaccurate. Checking on Google map of places I am familiar, the reading can be off by 20 - 40 meters instead of the supposedly 10 meters. So either the google map is inaccurate or the GPS reading is. Any idea?


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post Apr 7 2010, 01:34 PM

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http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/1...et_Ovi_Maps.php
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post Apr 8 2010, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Wokayyy @ Apr 8 2010, 06:07 AM)
AGPS does not improve accuracy. it makes it worse.
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I don't think it make it better or worst. AGPS only makes it easier to pick up the satellite signal and after that, other factors (not AGPS) affecting accuracy comes into play. Signal reflected from surrounding building etc and others I don't know about.

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post Apr 8 2010, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 8 2010, 02:18 PM)
Yes RM0.10 everytime /one seesion of using AGPS.

On the accuracy of tracklogs once switching on AGPS, well I can't confirm this but lotsa people who contribute tracklogs to the GPS communities did experience worst than ever tracklogs result wth AGPS on. The tracklogs got better wth AGPS switched off although acquiring will be slower but tracklogs cantik..  smile.gif
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It does not make any sense to me. ALL AGPS does is to tell the GPS receiver WHERE in the sky to look for the satellites. As to whether the GPS receiver can accurately acquire satellite signal or not has nothing to do with AGPS.

the last time I checked, the data transfer involved in AGPS was about 5KB. Maxis postpaid charges 1 sen/kb so it's 5 sen/AGPS data transfer.
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post Apr 8 2010, 03:24 PM

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Got 3 questions.
1. How do you back up all those favorite landmark you created in your phone?
2. I do not seem to be able to "selectively" delete some of my maps. For example, I have Beijing and Malaysia maps on Nokia Maps. To delete off Beijing, I must also deleted off the Malaysia's. And then reinstall Malaysia map.
3. And when you do have to delete off all the maps, what about your favorite landmarks? Do they get deleted off as well?

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post Apr 8 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 8 2010, 04:09 PM)
Well it's up to you to believe or not but if you know me in malfreemaps, I did lotsa trackings well almost weekly and has been testinmg tracklogs wth AGPS on & Off just to see the accuracy.

I don't want to belive as theroically AGPS only assist to acquire on the begining stage. thereafter only the inbuilt GPSr taking control of the work..Well from my numerous tracklogs submitted both wth AGPS & without, I alway cursed at the quality when my AGPS is on! Most probably it's not due to the AGPS but I suspect by switching on xtra function, xtra burden on the resources, thus the lousy quality of the tracklogs. Another problem is the more application u switch on during tracking, sometime the whole phone itself will get hang! (For eg. U switch on the tracking function of Garmin MXT, thereafter Race Chrono & Velox...It sometime hang! ^ thus the quality of the tracklogs also affected. Therefore during real tracking, I always ensure AGPS is Off, so do the Garmin tracking function bcos this will hang whole phone after >3hrs of tracking.
This is indeed very interesting. I do find that, sometimes, the reading can be off by 50 meters instead of the quoted 10 meters. May be I will do what you are doing and see how it goes........with and without AGPS. Thanks for sharing.

As for tracking. Can the built in Nokia Maps allow us to track where we went, I meant, the route we took and later on show it on the pc? If yes, can you pls tell me how?


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post Apr 9 2010, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(NewbieHero @ Apr 8 2010, 11:00 PM)
its meant for discussion. why are u using words to address people? if u arent happy u can go flame somewhere else.
if not noob then come here for what? why are u even here if u know so much stuffs? pro then go sell gps
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Some people has different of upbringing compared to us. Or may be he just had an heated argument with his misses or just having a bad day in the office. So many possibilities. So just ignore him and forgive him lah. No harm done anyway. Peace.

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