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Wingky
post Jul 8 2008, 07:02 PM

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For me i can 99% sure that i cant wear LP Tuad cause when i wear it i will get sickness for a week, twisted my back and so so so .....just feel weird as Thai amulets technically should suits everyone with good heart ! hahaha

or means that i dont have good heart so doesnt suit me?This is kinda subjective as until now i dont have definite answer to this.

At first i am just wearing my Khun Paen as above is quite ok.!..then add on to Jatukam (violet) still ok then i rent a LP Tuad then situations starts getting different.

Thats why now i am wearing 2 Jatukam and one Khun Paen.

By the way anyone heard of Lang Sa Kan? Pi Kam Ma Kan ? or Ja Dee Lai?

Or anyone with dzi knowledge ? Just confuse should wear Dzi or Thai Amulets .....

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post Jul 9 2008, 04:31 AM

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i m wearing this amulet give by my grandma. it look have 4 side. look like a mini statue with four god face. shape like a diamond(the shape of the poker card diamond) from the base of it and overall shape like a piramid.it is a stone n seal with gold around it.Is it the Four Face God?what is it abilities n how can i take care of it?i heard it has gone thru prayer by master of something.cant d amulet have contact with girl?not even gf?

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maloa
post Jul 9 2008, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Wingky @ Jul 8 2008, 07:02 PM)
For me i can 99% sure that i cant wear LP Tuad cause when i wear it i will get sickness for a week, twisted my back and so so so .....just feel weird as Thai amulets technically should suits everyone with good heart ! hahaha

or means that i dont have good heart so doesnt suit me?This is kinda subjective as until now i dont have definite answer to this.

At first i am just wearing my Khun Paen as above is quite ok.!..then add on to Jatukam (violet) still ok then i rent a LP Tuad then situations starts getting different.

Thats why now i am wearing 2 Jatukam and one Khun Paen.

By the way anyone heard of Lang Sa Kan? Pi Kam Ma Kan ? or Ja Dee Lai?

Or anyone with dzi knowledge ? Just confuse should wear Dzi or Thai Amulets .....
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hello Wingky,
dont feel so confused,take your time to understand and feel your amulet.....maybe that specific batch is not suitable for you..? well if we wear and it get good vibes = huat arr...(good ar),if we wear and get bad vibes = no good..? sometimes this type of things are very complex,maybe that specific time we wear,we are going to have a bad luck but the amulet helps us minimize the bad luck and we blame it on the amulet..? or really,we are not suitable to wear,as for me, i know myself that i cant wear "yin" type of amulets...
wear and believe all things in good heart..
maybe we could meet up one day and talk bout it..newbie meets newbie..hahahaa
didnt really heard of lang sa kan, je de lai is also a batch in jatukam?,not sure if you are saying this batch, phra jatukam ramathep jer di lai.. pi ka ma kan? izzit phim ka ma kan.. if its pronounce right means it is the committee batch..(thai : kamakan = committee)

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i m wearing this amulet give by my grandma. it look have 4 side. look like a mini statue with four god face. shape like a diamond(the shape of the poker card diamond) from the base of it and overall shape like a piramid.it is a stone n seal with gold around it.Is it the Four Face God?what is it abilities n how can i take care of it?i heard it has gone thru prayer by master of something.cant d amulet have contact with girl?not even gf?

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could be phra phom(the 4 face god) or could be the city pillar god....just leave it as it is loh..of course basic knowledge is that put on places high up when not wearing,try not to put in bedroom if you are not single,as a respect to the amulets....
er..depends on which master prays and lets say some masters pantang is different from others...

not to say absolute no contact with girls...er..it all depends on the sifu's power,unless we are talking about sakyants(body tatoo with yantra) or some specific barang...from what i know,some sakyants,you cannot have contact with another woman other than your wife,if not u suay until nobody believe your suayness...

last time i got to know one phor tan when i was young,he gave me a "tangkai" together with a tiger skin,his tangkai weakness is- do not walk under white cloth or red cloth...and woman menses cant touch my tangkai(but ofcoz he got make another tangkai just for woman..must be fair maaa)....where else the new sifu..his tangkai got no pantang...
best to consult your sifu..
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post Jul 9 2008, 10:56 AM

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maloa
post Jul 9 2008, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(paradiseboy @ Jul 9 2008, 10:56 AM)
the bolded letter is what my grandma advise me..i duno d sifu la..she have this amulet 40years or longer la..now pass to me..
my question is wat happen if let say against the pantang?
amulet lost it power?badluck?
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hello again paradiseboy..
er in laymen terms,yes the amulet will lose its power,but not to worry,just give it to monk for prayers,unless u r talking about tangkai or takrut..that is going to be abit hard as some sifu will have different powers than others,unless u specific know what the tangkai is for..or done by famous monk hopefully the monk will know the pali for it..i dont think it will cause bad luck..hehe...
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post Jul 9 2008, 06:51 PM

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[quote=maloa,Jul 9 2008, 09:57 AM]
hello Wingky,
dont feel so confused,take your time to understand and feel your amulet.....maybe that specific batch is not suitable for you..? well if we wear and it get good vibes = huat arr...(good ar),if we wear and get bad vibes = no good..? sometimes this type of things are very complex,maybe that specific time we wear,we are going to have a bad luck but the amulet helps us minimize the bad luck and we blame it on the amulet..? or really,we are not suitable to wear,as for me, i know myself that i cant wear "yin" type of amulets...
wear and believe all things in good heart..
maybe we could meet up one day and talk bout it..newbie meets newbie..hahahaa
didnt really heard of lang sa kan, je de lai is also a batch in jatukam?,not sure if you are saying this batch, phra jatukam ramathep jer di lai.. pi ka ma kan? izzit phim ka ma kan.. if its pronounce right means it is the committee batch..(thai : kamakan = committee)

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Maloa,

Phim ka ma kan means committee batch? so what does this committeeee batch means ? something different from others ? ahaha i am now confused lol

By the way i am still trying to sort out which is the best for me....but sometimes is really hard to say ..sometimes is OK sometimes down the drain hahah

By the way, whats is the diff between YIN and YANG amulet? and how do we know the amulet is YIN or YANG?

Based on what thing we should wear a YANG or YIN amulet?

By the way if you called yourself NEWBIE..then i am noob newbie haahh
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post Jul 9 2008, 10:41 PM

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But I don't think that these things can lose power. B'cos the power comes from inside us. From faith and the good deeds we do... prayers etc. Anyway bad luck ? I don't think so too.
QUOTE(maloa @ Jul 9 2008, 02:25 PM)
hello again paradiseboy..
er in laymen terms,yes the amulet will lose its power,but not to worry,just give it to monk for prayers,unless u r talking about tangkai or takrut..that is going to be abit hard as some sifu will have different powers than others,unless u specific know what the tangkai is for..or done by famous monk hopefully the monk will know the pali for it..i dont think it will cause bad luck..hehe...
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post Jul 9 2008, 10:55 PM

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Project-0 bro,

you have any experience like my case? Can advise ka ? smile.gif
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post Jul 10 2008, 09:55 AM

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Maloa,

Phim ka ma kan means committee batch? so what does this committeeee batch means ? something different from others ? ahaha i am now confused lol

By the way i am still trying to sort out which is the best for me....but sometimes is really hard to say ..sometimes is OK sometimes down the drain hahah

By the way, whats is the diff between YIN and YANG amulet? and how do we know the amulet is YIN or YANG?

Based on what thing we should wear a YANG or YIN amulet?

By the way if you called yourself NEWBIE..then i am noob newbie haahh
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wingky,
er... committee batch = when they create the batch, normally they will create 1 more specially for the committee members,donors that donates alot of $$...normally the phim/"model" looks abit different or made out of more stuff, eg extra takruts or better looking 1..normally is slightly more expensive...

er yang = more to buddha,somdej,jatukam ramathep kinda amulets...
yin = more to barang...kumantongs..lok gotz, certain khun phean amulets...
hehehe ...
normally yin amulets are worn from your body below..eg put in pockets..
i see that you have registered in SA under Wingky7,good stuff..sometimes i go there and seek for knowledge also,looking at their amulets also.. 90% of them are singaporeans..some are malaysians..but its a good place to seek for info..

project-o Posted Yesterday, 10:41 PM
But I don't think that these things can lose power. B'cos the power comes from inside us. From faith and the good deeds we do... prayers etc. Anyway bad luck ? I don't think so too.

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project-o,
depends on the sifu that made the stuff, normally mass chanted stuff dont really have much to pantang..or if the sifu never inform you that the takrut cannot let woman with menses touch,ignorance is a bliss.. works both ways i guess..
good deed + no wear amulet = good
good deed + wear amulet = very good
bad deed + no wear amulet = very bad
bad deed + wear 10x amulet = dont hope much that your amulet will help you
bad deed +good deed + wear amulet = may lord buddha have mercy on you..hehe

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post Jul 10 2008, 01:07 PM

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Hi Maloa.

Anyway for me... b'cos mine are mostly gifts from family friends I don't ask about their origin or whether they have been chanted upon. Normally what I will do is perform a short ritual once I receive. I will put a glass of clear water and do my usual prayers over it, dip the amulet into it 3 times and then inform heaven etc... that I received this from such a person and indirectly thank the person.

For other rituals I'm not sure.


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post Jul 10 2008, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(project-o @ Jul 10 2008, 01:07 PM)
Hi Maloa.

Anyway for me... b'cos mine are mostly gifts from family friends I don't ask about their origin or whether they have been chanted upon. Normally what I will do is perform a short ritual once I receive. I will put a glass of clear water and do my usual prayers over it, dip the amulet into it 3 times and then inform heaven etc... that I received this from such a person and indirectly thank the person.

For other rituals I'm not sure.
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hello project-o,how nice of your family friends,if got extra remember to pass some to us yar..as for collection and admiration..as for me. my uncle passed me 1 JTK, and ask me to try and wear..it proves its ability in a way and i never question about its identity wherether its real or fake.. the amulets i've rented,so far i dont purposely verify with ppl wherether its real or fake, i just wear it with faith,there are a few i felt uneasy wearing it,so no harm still put in altar,one of the many i rented in bangkok only is fake(friend look at my collection and told me this 1 no ok) but i still keep in altar and offer my prayers/joss stick to it..because karma is not on us,its on those that do all this bad deeds..but of course there is a fine line between believers and collectors..because collectors only look for old and genuine amulets,as for believers dont care wherether its old or new, as long as got faith...as for me..i fall in between those line,i believe and collects..but if i know its a fake, i wont blame myself or the dealers...because maybe the dealers needed that money(take it as do charity and learn a lesson) it will makes you feel better...forgive and forget...
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post Jul 10 2008, 07:12 PM

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Maloa,

thanks for your explanation..yea i just registered in SA yesterday smile.gif

if i cant wear LP Tuad which is YANG amulet so how about JTK? is YANG also rite?

then the one who rent me the amulet telling me that 1 - 2 weeks after wearing JTK will encounter bad luck cause RAHU is eating and spreading all the bad luck...wor...true ar?

Lets me explore in SA also tongue.gif ahha
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Anyway Maloa... in what sense is a talisman "fake" ? Does it mean that the effect is not there or it is not made properly ?
QUOTE(maloa @ Jul 10 2008, 02:29 PM)
hello project-o,how nice of your family friends,if got extra remember to pass some to us yar..as for collection and admiration..as for me. my uncle passed me 1 JTK, and ask me to try and wear..it proves its ability in a way and i never question about its identity wherether its real or fake.. the amulets i've rented,so far i dont purposely verify with ppl wherether its real or fake, i just wear it with faith,there are a few i felt uneasy wearing it,so no harm still put in altar,one of the many i rented in bangkok only is fake(friend look at my collection and told me this 1 no ok) but i still keep in altar and offer my prayers/joss stick to it..because karma is not on us,its on those that do all this bad deeds..but of course there is a fine line between believers and collectors..because collectors only look for old and genuine amulets,as for believers dont care wherether its old or new, as long as got faith...as for me..i fall in between those line,i believe and collects..but if i know its a fake, i wont blame myself or the dealers...because maybe the dealers needed that money(take it as do charity and learn a lesson) it will makes you feel better...forgive and forget...
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Maloa,

thanks for your explanation..yea i just registered in SA yesterday smile.gif

if i cant wear LP Tuad which is YANG amulet so how about JTK? is YANG also rite?

then the one who rent me the amulet telling me that 1 - 2 weeks after wearing JTK will encounter bad luck cause RAHU is eating and spreading all the bad luck...wor...true ar?

Lets me explore in SA also tongue.gif ahha
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hello wingky..
maybe yang and yin is a factor of u being uncomfy(unlikely because you felt ok when wearing JTK)..maybe its because u r getting used to the amulet...LP tuad is known for helping/bailing you out when got danger...i read in SA that lp thuad says that no matter if the picture/amulet is real or fake or just a piece of paper,as long as got my face in any amulets/rians..etcetc..he will protect you...wear it with faith,if you really feel uneasy,maybe that specific amulet doesnt suit you(doesnt mean all lp thuad dont suit you,maybe that specific amulet only..)
er... phra rahu is known to "eat" your bad luck...i dont think it includes good luck..maybe there is some miscommunication.
as per mentioned...try wear them one by one,eg wear just one of your jtk for one month.see how u feel, then wear the lp thuad for the on coming month...then wear the other jtk that u have..then decide which 1 u like most,or how would you like the arrangement, we can only observe and give pointers..action = in your hands..
hehehe i am still exploring in SA also...

QUOTE(project-o @ Jul 10 2008, 08:14 PM)
Anyway Maloa... in what sense is a talisman "fake" ? Does it mean that the effect is not there or it is not made properly ?
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er...depends on the level,most common fake = make in factory.yes there is factory pumping clones amulet..some are like this..because nowadays design is so nice is because. eg... committee decides to have a donate amulet...they design the "mould" and get monks approval..then once they have mould,some are pressed/made in the factory,take to temple for main ceremony...some are pressed during the ceremony itself by the monk(those famous 1 will normally pressed in the ceremony)..then the factory will pump some for themselves.bring to temple after ceremony,let monk pray and walla start passing to dealers(this is half fake)..then there is those are specialise in "cloning" high end eg 100-1000yrs old amulets/rians...at the end of the day,sometimes even pro amulet collectors oso kena wat tio kan... its a normal process..if its fake but you love the amulet so much,try to get it blessed and wear it with faith...although some ppl will be laughing at you because you are just wearing a piece of expensive stone..but hey,say what they want,its your faith and actions,not them.. put the story another way round, wearing a 101% real amulet, but do bad things like rape and kill and con...but amulet dont bless them,so they are wearing a piece of expensive stone also...hehe

hope this helps.....

so how many "fever" thai amulet collectors/believers do we have here in LYN..wanna do a headcount..?

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QUOTE(maloa @ Jul 11 2008, 12:09 AM)
Maloa,

thanks for your explanation..yea i just registered in SA yesterday smile.gif

if i cant wear LP Tuad which is YANG amulet so how about JTK? is YANG also rite?

then the one who rent me the amulet telling me that 1 - 2 weeks after wearing JTK will encounter bad luck cause RAHU is eating and spreading all the bad luck...wor...true ar?

Lets me explore in SA also tongue.gif ahha
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hello wingky..
maybe yang and yin is a factor of u being uncomfy(unlikely because you felt ok when wearing JTK)..maybe its because u r getting used to the amulet...LP tuad is known for helping/bailing you out when got danger...i read in SA that lp thuad says that no matter if the picture/amulet is real or fake or just a piece of paper,as long as got my face in any amulets/rians..etcetc..he will protect you...wear it with faith,if you really feel uneasy,maybe that specific amulet doesnt suit you(doesnt mean all lp thuad dont suit you,maybe that specific amulet only..)
er... phra rahu is known to "eat" your bad luck...i dont think it includes good luck..maybe there is some miscommunication.
as per mentioned...try wear them one by one,eg wear just one of your jtk for one month.see how u feel, then wear the lp thuad for the on coming month...then wear the other jtk that u have..then decide which 1 u like most,or how would you like the arrangement, we can only observe and give pointers..action = in your hands..
hehehe i am still exploring in SA also...
er...depends on the level,most common fake = make in factory.yes there is factory pumping clones amulet..some are like this..because nowadays design is so nice is because. eg... committee decides to have a donate amulet...they design the "mould" and get monks approval..then once they have mould,some are pressed/made in the factory,take to temple for main ceremony...some are pressed during the ceremony itself by the monk(those famous 1 will normally pressed in the ceremony)..then the factory will pump some for themselves.bring to temple after ceremony,let monk pray and walla start passing to dealers(this is half fake)..then there is those are specialise in "cloning" high end eg 100-1000yrs old amulets/rians...at the end of the day,sometimes even pro amulet collectors oso kena wat tio kan... its a normal process..if its fake but you love the amulet so much,try to get it blessed and wear it with faith...although some ppl will be laughing at you because you are just wearing a piece of expensive stone..but hey,say what they want,its your faith and actions,not them.. put the story another way round, wearing a 101% real amulet, but do bad things like rape and kill and con...but amulet dont bless them,so they are wearing a piece of expensive stone also...hehe

hope this helps.....

so how many "fever" thai amulet collectors/believers do we have here in LYN..wanna do a headcount..?
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The LP Tuad already passed back to the person who sell to me d lo.....he said RAHU is eting the bad luck after eating the bad luck thingy will bring good luck cause JTK is another face smile.gif

You must be having alot of nice amulets tongue.gif heheh show show and see see hehe

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post Jul 11 2008, 08:55 AM

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Namo Tasa Bagawato Arahato Samasam Putasa x 300 000
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post Jul 11 2008, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(tkhpeng @ Jul 11 2008, 08:55 AM)
Namo Tasa Bagawato Arahato Samasam Putasa x 300 000
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hello tkhpeng,
namo tasa bagawato arahato samasa pu ta sa is the opening rites to calling in the name of buddha...
it is the opening chant for every mantra that we offer to pray..normally we recites it for 3 times before the chanting..

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The LP Tuad already passed back to the person who sell to me d lo.....he said RAHU is eting the bad luck after eating the bad luck thingy will bring good luck cause JTK is another face smile.gif

You must be having alot of nice amulets tongue.gif heheh show show and see see hehe
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wingky,
er okay, if he offers to take back its okay loh..
actually rahu is eating bad luck, there is also just a rahu amulet by itself, plan to get one also..hehehe
i dont have alot of nice amulets ler...my jtk is all new 1..not 2545 and below..maybe you can pm me how much u rent your jtk..
but i have a few old somdej way back...when i was small already got it..and some tangkai that a por tan created..my dad has a somdej that has won in amulet competition back in bangkok during the 80's..too bad he is not wearing it..maybe if time permits, we can have a gathering and share some amulets we rented or given. what do you say..?

1) maloa - location - subang jaya..
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post Jul 11 2008, 01:29 PM

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maloa, not bad, you knew this as well, (Por Tan teach me). I din collect amulet anymore, but I'm crazy about ITs when I secondary. But now no more, I will namo namo when having weire feeling especially hotel or dark place. ^^'
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QUOTE(tkhpeng @ Jul 11 2008, 01:29 PM)
maloa, not bad, you knew this as well, (Por Tan teach me). I din collect amulet anymore, but I'm crazy about ITs when I secondary. But now no more, I will namo namo when having weire feeling especially hotel or dark place. ^^'
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hello tkhpeng,
err if you feel uneasy,maybe can try this... om mah nee pen ni hum.. also works..personal encounter from my family... mum went to europe,one of the hotels she stays in(those ancient old hotel converts from ancient building) she felt uneasy,just recites that chant,felt better..
maybe you could share with us your collection..real or fake, just bring out lo..hehehe
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tkhpeng,

I did try few times recite the nama tassa thingy, surprisingly after recite tat mantra..i have weird feeling on tat day and work also not smooth wan ...

so i wonder is it really that ngam..or i cant chant tat ...

maloa,

can lo..one day we should have a gathering...as i stay in KL........then can discuss more as i am so new haha. so need guidance from tai lo like u smile.gif

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