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post Sep 10 2008, 04:38 AM, updated 18y ago

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Using iTunes 8.0 now. A few observations:-

1 .The Genius feature requires you to sign into an iTunes account, otherwise it is disabled. You can make the Genius sidebar visible or not, by clicking its button on bottom right of iTunes.

2. HD contents immediately available NOW! This includes at least all of my previously purchased TV Shows such as Lost. Also ,welcome back NBC! Those season passes for The Office, Heroes Season 1 & 2, and Battlestar Galactica is teasing ME! cry.gif I need more credits before I can purchase them. They also include how much storage is required to buy them by seasons. For example, Heroes Season 2 is 14GBs in HD, but only 5.3GB in SD. I'm getting my TV Shows in HD on Blu-rays, only getting SD versions via iTunes.

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3 .After agreeing with the terms and conditions for Genius, it will start gathering info on your iTunes library, and it takes a while too. Once done, a notification appears that says that you can start using Genius now. To use it, select a song, and on the Genius sidebar, a Genius recommendation, at the time of the writing of this post, based currently on the composer, appears. The Genius feature assumes you are interested in similar sounds from the currently selected song, and recommends it with links for purchase and details. Note that Genius only works for songs at the moment, and also Genius is evolving.........the more data it gathers from users as more and more users uses iTunes 8.0, the smarter it gets, and the better recommendations it gives. Creepy isnt it? Almost sounds like Skynet in Terminator.....

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4 .A new Visualizer as promised. Magnetosphere is now available as the iTunes default visualizer when selected. Looks just as described by Kevin Rose, streaks of light jumping between spherical worlds or planet. Very trippy and beautiful. Also , ZERO lag on the visualizer, even when turn on to full screen. This is excellent for parties, gatherings and get-togethers while you turn on your HDTV connected to your Mac. Nice!

5 .Remember those blue notification bubbles on your iPhone? Now it serves as a way of saying that you have new unwatched episodes on your Mac, instead of what I initially thought as new episodes available. Refer to the screenshot below.
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6. Genius Playlist, what is it? It is basically the Genius feature trying to second-guess what you would want to group your songs into and at the same time create a playlist based on those guesstimation. For example, if I choose the song "Dont Fear The Reaper" by Blue Oyster Cult, these songs are what Genius recommends I put inside the Genius playlist.

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I choose a song based on a soundtrack, called "Little Things" by Danny Elfman from the soundtrack of "Wanted", it generates songs all based from soundtracks or what it thinks are soundtrack titles, including titles that arent necessary tagged as a soundtrack album. I got songs from a few classical albums I got, in which Genius would already have scoured the iTunes music database and identified it as one of the songs from a soundtrack of a movie. Hence it gets recommendation inside this Genius Playlist because of those criterias.

7. The new Grid look is further enhanced to look like this:-
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Hovering your cursor over a title on that said grid enable two things. If the said grid item is arranged as "Artist", you can scrub over the grid item to select different albums within the said grid by scrolling left to right and clicking it down when you've come to the selected album you wanted. Those familiar with scrubbing within a photo Event in iPhoto should find this familiar.

8 .One bad glitch I found out is that all my movies contained in Time Capsule are no longer containing their album art/movie poster. I had to individually use the "Get Info" feature to refresh the alias/link to point towards those movies stored in the Time Capsule, and recollect their album art, or in this case, the movie cover art. I've close to 300 movies stored this way, and the thoughts of doing them one by one is not a pleasant one.
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Great Review. biggrin.gif

one thing that kept me away from upgrade to itunes 8 is that i am sharing a mac with my friend and both of our ipod touch sync together on same mac. But he use ahem ahem version 2.0 so that he can play any games sad.gif



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news update

itunes 8 cannot pwnage.
HERE the report.
so better stick to 7.7.1 fo a while till dev team release new pwnagetool.



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well..will stay with 7.7.1.11 then at the moment...
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Just installed Itunes 8 on my macbook and I have to say, I kinda like Genius biggrin.gif

Im not using iphone/ipod so nothing to worry I guess about lol tongue.gif
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More screenshots of how Apple treats "Genre" in Grid view. Very nice and clean looking!

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Added on September 10, 2008, 6:55 amAlso notice that when syncing songs, IIANM, the storage ticker at the bottom is only updated AFTER it has finished syncing. On iTunes 8.0, the storage ticker is Live, with updated ticker meter decreasing as more media is synced into your iPhone/iPod.

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Great review string...

IMHO, this topic should be in Apple Byte section rather then here.
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post Sep 10 2008, 09:00 AM

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is it advisable to upgrade iTunes regardless of iphone f.w.?
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i guess it is upgrade IF you dont plan to pwn ur iphone... since it is stated it cant do any pwnage...
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d4mn i have to stick to 7.5 since I'm still on FW 1.1.4.

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hohoho, later go home upgrade thumbup.gif
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aaahhh...i m in the same position as u..old skool
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would be nice if they have the visualizer on the iphone.. but then again, battery life.. :s
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To those with a US iTunes account, you are in for a treat.

With NBC return to iTunes, they are providing FREE downloads of the first episodes of their blockbuster TV Shows in iTunes. I am currently downloading these episodes for free, for both Standard Definition and High Definition as well:-

1 . "Four Months Later....." from Heroes Season 2 , both SD and HD
2 . "He That Believeth In Me" from Battlestar Galactica Season 4, both SD and HD
3 . "Mr. Monk Buy a House" from Monk Season 7, both SD and HD

These are FREE for downloads, the rest of the episodes in that season are purchase-to-download. Anyone interested on evaluating Apple's HD offering and see what kind of quality their HD TV Show episodes are, can download these FREE offerings now. We all know how Malaysians LOVE freebies.

EDIT: These free episodes only appear when you updated your iTunes to Version 8.0 only, I'm afraid.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 10 2008, 12:10 PM)
To those with a US iTunes account, you are in for a treat.

With NBC return to iTunes, they are providing FREE downloads of the first episodes of their blockbuster TV Shows in iTunes. I am currently downloading these episodes for free, for both Standard Definition and High Definition as well:-

1 . "Four Months Later....." from Heroes Season 2 , both SD and HD
2 . "He That Believeth In Me" from Battlestar Galactica Season 4, both SD and HD
3 . "Mr. Monk Buy a House" from Monk Season 7, both SD and HD

These are FREE for downloads, the rest of the episodes in that season are purchase-to-download. Anyone interested on evaluating Apple's HD offering and see what kind of quality their HD TV Show episodes are, can download these FREE offerings now. We all know how Malaysians LOVE freebies.

EDIT: These free episodes only appear when you updated your iTunes to Version 8.0 only, I'm afraid.
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Must try out the freeeeebies tonight rclxm9.gif
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no problems using this with officially unlocked iPhones right ?
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QUOTE(neekun @ Sep 10 2008, 12:41 PM)
Must try out the freeeeebies tonight  rclxm9.gif
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It takes a while to download them thoug, especially the HD versions. That Heroes Season 2 episode? Listed as 9 hours to download! rclxub.gif

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no US itunes account... no freebies... sweat.gif
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There are always freebies in US iTunes. Sometimes it is a free song by emerging artists, a free making-of documentary (which is coincidentally, at this time, the US iTunes are giving away free Making-Of for Rambo 4 and Scorpion King 2), or if the stars align nicely, free TV Show episodes like these. You just have to keep looking in the "Free on iTunes" section.
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alamak.. i just bought heroes season 2 bululei lar....
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http://gizmodo.com/5047721/itunes-8-causin...for-vista-users

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Looks like iTunes 8 is really not playing so well with Windows. Users of both 32-bit and 64-bit Vista are reporting getting the blue screen of death whenever they plug in an iPod or iPhone. Downgrading back down to 7.7 appears to solve the problem, but not without some weird, but solvable, app-erasing hijinks.

Matt says that doing a clean install (completely uninstalling your previous version of iTunes before loading up iTunes 8) has resulted in no BSOD issues for him on Vista 64-bit, but that hasn't been tested by the public at large yet. Apple's asking for dump files to figure out where the problem's coming from, but until they post an update, I predict rioting! Mayhem! Pillaging of Apple stores all around the country! Or just a bunch of Windows-based iTunes users grumbling into the night about how all the fancy schmancy graphics in the world can't make up for crappy software testing.


Anybody from the Vista side facing this? Try full uninstall of the previous version, and then download the .exe from Apple.com. Dont use the updater.
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IM USING IT NOW...KIND OF NICE...HOPE IT REALLY FIXES MOST OF THE BUGS.WAITING FOR THE FIRMWARE 2.1 TO TRY IT OUT..HAHA...CANT WAIT FOR FRIDAY!!!
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Whoa ... thank god. I just update itunes on my office XP machine. Thought of upgrading it tonight. Have to put on hold la like dat.
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no balls to update
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The article states Vista, bro. No mention on XP, which I assume should be fine. Plus, if you're still doing pwnages or anything involving iTunes, it is safer not to upgrade to 8.
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lucky i use on my mac, kekkekekek
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Office pc is XP. Home laptop using Vista. Anything i experiment on the office pc first. If anything happen then home laptop safe first.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 10 2008, 03:44 PM)
Plus, if you're still doing pwnages or anything involving iTunes, it is safer not to upgrade to 8.
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Oyeah... this one keep playing on my mind since morning... i rather wait then do pwning now... That Genius is good. If only i have deep pocket kekeke...

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 10 2008, 03:21 PM)
http://gizmodo.com/5047721/itunes-8-causin...for-vista-users

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Anybody from the Vista side facing this? Try full uninstall of the previous version, and then download the .exe from Apple.com. Dont use the updater.
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i'm currently using vista home premium and installation went smoothly on the first run. had since synchronised for more than 5 times to conduct some personal experiments.


Added on September 10, 2008, 4:43 pm
QUOTE(rx330 @ Sep 10 2008, 03:47 PM)
lucky i use on my mac, kekkekekek
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will attempt to install the mac os x version on my macbook later tonight; battery is too flat to start up tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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I assume you download the .exe from the Apple website and did a full uninstall of the previous version? That should cut down the problems to a minimum.

Damn, where is that e_trade guy's number? I need to buy Heroes and Battlestar Galactica season shows.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 10 2008, 04:43 PM)
I assume you download the .exe from the Apple website and did a full uninstall of the previous version? That should cut down the problems to a minimum.

Damn, where is that e_trade guy's number? I need to buy Heroes and Battlestar Galactica season shows.
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yeah, the package was from apple website BUT i didn't uninstall the previous version.


hence, i reckon that it is by sheer luck.


try finding for e_trade guy's number as he has posted it here before; you gotta work for it, string!
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tats his num...
gv him a buzz...smile.gif
so far for me, I8 is running fine...
no bsod...on vista...smile.gif
hv 2 look for heroes....yeay.....
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Yup got his number, from Friend's FAQ. Shopping, weeeeeeee!
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woi, string, u dun buy all, keep abit for me
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dia ada banyak lar
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u 1st day know string?
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i dinn quiet get wat u mean bro..
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phew.... lucky only 10.....
bro, got ask he tinggal berapa? as i need to check with my BIL whether he wans or not as well
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He should have in the mid 60s.

I LOL'ed when I told him I wanted 10. He sorta blurted "WHAT!?" when I mentioned that. Bless you e_trade for doing this, and take your time keying in those codes to SMS. laugh.gif
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tats wat im trying to tell harmeet... lucky buy 10 only
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All Seploh REDEEMED! rclxm9.gif

If this is eBay, this would be my feedback for e_trade_pj:-

"Speediest reply and response to purchase. Redeem codes were sent immediately, friendly seller. RECOMMENDED AAAAAAAA++++++++++"

Thanks again, e_trade! rclxms.gif notworthy.gif


Added on September 10, 2008, 5:36 pmNext problem :-

How am I gonna fit 4 seasons of Battlestar Galactica and 2 seasons of Heroes into a Macbook with only 6GB of space left? cry.gif

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Spare External Drive?? Ada??

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 10 2008, 12:10 PM)
To those with a US iTunes account, you are in for a treat.

With NBC return to iTunes, they are providing FREE downloads of the first episodes of their blockbuster TV Shows in iTunes. I am currently downloading these episodes for free, for both Standard Definition and High Definition as well:-

1 . "Four Months Later....." from Heroes Season 2 , both SD and HD
2 . "He That Believeth In Me" from Battlestar Galactica Season 4, both SD and HD
3 . "Mr. Monk Buy a House" from Monk Season 7, both SD and HD

These are FREE for downloads, the rest of the episodes in that season are purchase-to-download. Anyone interested on evaluating Apple's HD offering and see what kind of quality their HD TV Show episodes are, can download these FREE offerings now. We all know how Malaysians LOVE freebies.

EDIT: These free episodes only appear when you updated your iTunes to Version 8.0 only, I'm afraid.
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Will the version 8.0 works with a hack iphone. I am now getting consent from a friend in US to use his address to create a itune account.

Hehe.... got myself another iphone this time all for myself smile.gif but still the first generation but it is more like a gift so beggers can be choosers.

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Version 8 does not work for activities like pwnage and the likes, so I suggest holding it off first, until the experts have delved into it.smile.gif
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U dont need a 'real' US address to create one. Just google some US address and use it but this only work if you don't have any US credit card to tie it to.


Added on September 10, 2008, 6:15 pmLucky that e_trade_pj fella to bump into us. Before this he said like hell want to sell those babies.

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Met with another glitch as I was out buying my buka puasa goodies.

Listening on my Aifontriji, looked at the album art, and it is ALL SCREWED UP! I have Meteora album art for Mariah Carey's songs, and even some songs have the grid artwork STUCK to it. WTF!

Retrieving album art again from iTunes and resyncing. I hope this is a one-off kinda thing, until the Aifontriji hits 2.1.
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it does not expired?

can retrieve back forever?
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Nope. If you have a valid iTunes account, retrieving album artwork is one of the perks. I can clear all the artworks and redownload them as I see fit.
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So I just need a valid US address (even without consent) and I should be able to create a US itune account. Can anyone confirm.

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hm...i gota go buy more cards and save liao


i doubt he will bring in again since at 1st so hard to sell lol
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Hey i got a question..
I know pwnage don't work on itunes..
But if you just use itunes8 for snyc and copying music etc to a jb/unlocked iphone can?
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Doing those things should be fine. It is just when you need to do a restore and things related to unlocking/jailbreaking that things get hairy.
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Oh..thats good..
Worse thing is i could keep the itunes7 installer..
Then if anything really happens i'll just install itunes 7 again...
Anyway..all my apps and episode from itunes7 will trasnfer to itunes 8 or i have to download them again?
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Going back and forth there will introduce complications. The forlder structure and alias/links to the media/content downloaded should not change, but as I have found out earlier, some of the contents I have synced over into the Aifontriji have mismatched album artworks. That may be trivial and rectifiable, but who knows what complications it would introduce if you go back and forth like that.
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ah...i see...
Thanks for your help string..
I'll keep my laptop at itunes7..my pc is now running at itunes8.. tongue.gif
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iTunes 8.0 is great.... nice interface..
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3 moreminutes to itunes 8 biggrin.gif


Added on September 11, 2008, 12:03 amweird... kenot dl HD movies.. says itunes store not available

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upgraded to iTunes 8 !
not yet got time to explore it...... but nice designs !

btw.... Firmware 2.1 I believe only available to upgrade if you are on iTunes 8.
cos before upgrade iTunes, I did not see it shows "new firmware 2.1" to update.

Once upgraded to iTunes 8, it shows there is a new update Firmware 2.1 for my iPod Touch.
I believe it should work that way too to the Aifon or Aifontriji

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no bro...for iphone 3g on friday oni
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I wonder when winpwn will come out with an update to pwn itunes 8..
Really want to use it la... sad.gif
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ha ha. have a mini TT in one utama and you guys can play with 2.1 (IF i have updated la of course)


Added on September 11, 2008, 2:34 ameven though, i have to admit with all these hype about 2.1, i will be greatly disappointed if there isn't any major updates

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betul u nokia...
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wah celaka betul.

i was anticipating to purchase wall-e. mana tau only coming out in november...


sheesshhh
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QUOTE(friends @ Sep 11 2008, 02:06 AM)
upgraded to iTunes 8 !
not yet got time to explore it...... but nice designs !

btw.... Firmware 2.1 I believe only available to upgrade if you are on iTunes 8.
cos before upgrade iTunes, I did not see it shows "new firmware 2.1" to update.

Once upgraded to iTunes 8, it shows there is a new update Firmware 2.1 for my iPod Touch.
I believe it should work that way too to the Aifon or Aifontriji
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My ipod touch running 2.1 but i still can't get the genius playlist on the ipod up and running. No matter what song i select, always show not enough info to generate playlist.
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i dled battlestar gallatica, after 12 am only ok for me
but why i dl saja, one shot dl HD and SD as well?
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bro string, do you have any problem by using itunes 8.0 to back up ur phone.
i have received the error msg "itunes could not backup the iphone because the backup could not be saved on the computer".
Does any of you encounter this problem?

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i'm okay. no backing up problerm
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i'm okay. no backing up problerm
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Back up still takes ages to complete (but steve promise to solve this in fw2.1) but 1 thing i can see that this version of itunes uses alot of the pc resources and slow it down a bit. V7.7 last time was not as resource hungry as this version.
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QUOTE(goldieboy @ Sep 11 2008, 02:38 PM)
bro string, do you have any problem by using itunes 8.0 to back up ur phone.
i have received the error msg "itunes could not backup the iphone because the backup could not be saved on the computer".
Does any of you encounter this problem?
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Nope, no problems here. Using a Mac though.
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QUOTE(goldieboy @ Sep 11 2008, 02:52 PM)
u using Apple or Vista?
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sigh...just downgrade back to 7.1...
need to restore back 1 by 1...
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Aiyah doh.gif My genius still now working on my iTunes 8, no matter what song I selected icon_question.gif

As for my iPod Touch 2.1, genius also not working..i read from forums and it seems that it only works on iPod if the music are auto sync, mine is manual sync sad.gif
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That's weird. You are using Leopard right? Did you do a Software Update or downloaded the full dmg from Apple site?

My Genius is working fine. In fact, so good, I'm having a hard time trying not to buy the song it recommends! If this makes it to movies or TV shows, I'm screwed. sad.gif
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 11 2008, 09:02 PM)
That's weird. You are using Leopard right? Did you do a Software Update or downloaded the full dmg from Apple site?

My Genius is working fine. In fact, so good, I'm having a hard time trying not to buy the song it recommends! If this makes it to movies or TV shows, I'm screwed. sad.gif
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I downloaded the itunes.dmg instead of software update. Urs manual manage music also ka?

Or could it be my itunes library too few songs to get genius working? Only got 41 songs now tongue.gif BTW, the genius bar works as it recommends me music based the current track playing.

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one thing i have always been curious about this software update thingy.

there are times when you can resume the download if you do get disconnected or shut down etc, however there also times that which you just have to start all over again.
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To my iPhone? Yes, manual. But there aren't any option to manually manage music in iTunes for your whole library, is there?

FYI, I don't have an iPod Touch. My next iPod would probably be the orange 16GB Nano. RM799!
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 11 2008, 09:12 PM)
To my iPhone? Yes, manual. But there aren't any option to manually manage music in iTunes for your whole library, is there?

FYI, I don't have an iPod Touch. My next iPod would probably be the orange 16GB Nano.  RM799!
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Hmm maybe i need to load more songs into my itunes library and try genius again. But nt now...tgh watching Amazing Race Asia!

I like the yellow nano..hmmm green and purple also nice woh tongue.gif
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you SOB! =P

my parents are currently hogging the tv now. so i will probably watch the repeat after midnight later.

so any hot gals with tight a$$es this round?
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@ neekun
you SOB! =P

my parents are currently hogging the tv now. so i will probably watch the repeat after midnight later.

so any hot gals with tight a$$es this round?
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I think your songs needs to be properly tagged to be recognized by Genius for it to makes you a proper recommendation. Did your Genius bar on the right recommend any songs for purchase when you pick any particular song in your library?

Also, logically, Genius won't be able to make any recommendation if your songs are in a language or region not supported. For example, Chinese songs. It may collect info on songs it does not have in that Genius cloud in the air, but any recommedations in that song would only properly work once more users starts submitting their database and playlist info into the cloud. Genius will only get smarter from here.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 11 2008, 09:44 PM)
I think your songs needs to be properly tagged to be recognized by Genius for it to makes you a proper recommendation. Did your Genius bar on the right recommend any songs for purchase when you pick any particular song in your library?

Also, logically, Genius won't be able to make any recommendation if your songs are in a language or region not supported. For example, Chinese songs. It may collect info on songs it does not have in that Genius cloud in the air, but any recommedations in that song would only properly work once more users starts submitting their database and playlist info into the cloud. Genius will only get smarter from here.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 11 2008, 09:44 PM)
I think your songs needs to be properly tagged to be recognized by Genius for it to makes you a proper recommendation. Did your Genius bar on the right recommend any songs for purchase when you pick any particular song in your library?

Also, logically, Genius won't be able to make any recommendation if your songs are in a language or region not supported. For example, Chinese songs. It may collect info on songs it does not have in that Genius cloud in the air, but any recommedations in that song would only properly work once more users starts submitting their database and playlist info into the cloud. Genius will only get smarter from here.
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All my 41 songs are english songs and properly tagged. But maybe the genre is not correct cause i tend to use POP for most of my eng songs even it is ALTERNATIVE.



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Or Indian, etc. The Genius engine works well only once people starts contributing their iTunes data.

Get everyone in Malaysia to contribute their playlist with "Rasa Sayang" or "Negaraku", and the next guy who have these songs on his library, gets his proper Genius recommendation he needs. tongue.gif

I foresee this a good way for Apple to use it as a tool to weed out albums leaked out the illegal way ie; torrents etc. Whether they want to use it that way remains to be seen.


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All my 41 songs are english songs and properly tagged. But maybe the genre is not correct cause i tend to use POP for most of my eng songs even it is ALTERNATIVE.
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Aiyoh 41 only!? You'll have to pick "25" as the number of songs to be recommended by Genius. If you pick "50" it will either recommend everything or nothing at all, depending on your tags. Did your Genius sidebar recommend anything when a song is picked?


Added on September 11, 2008, 10:17 pmCome to think of it, if not properly tagged, even Genius could not help you. Tried it with one of my more problematic mp3s ( the tagged metadata is screwed up) and that gives zero Genius recommendations.

Try clicking "Update Genius" on the Store tab, that may refresh Genius and return a more positive result.

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string, wat u mean by cant manage manually ur songs to the iphone?
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Eh? I didnt say that. I was talking about the whole library on iTunes. It is managed automagically.

Anyway, even when we cheered Apple for including HD downloads via iTunes now, the reality is, it is not "really HD" in the truest form.

http://gizmodo.com/5048025/giz-explains-wh...t-very-high-def

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From the article, both resolution and bitrate goes hand in hand to create the HD experience. In Apple's HD case, yes you may have the resolution (1280 x 720) but the bitrate is shamefully lacking. In the end, when you look and play your HD contents up a big screen HDTV, it looks nothing more than "just like an upscaled DVD movie" would look like. I've tried this with Battlestar Galactica episode that is downloadable for free promotion now, and the difference between that, and a proper Blu-ray presentation is painfully apparent. Looks like HD downloads have a long way to go before even trying to compare with Blu-ray.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 11 2008, 09:12 PM)
To my iPhone? Yes, manual. But there aren't any option to manually manage music in iTunes for your whole library, is there?

FYI, I don't have an iPod Touch. My next iPod would probably be the orange 16GB Nano.  RM799!
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lol..799
it wud be lower la bro...smile.gif
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How low? Your price low, or MRSP is actually lower than RM799?
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ahem ahem. i know that we have not yet meet, but discount for me yeah? ha ha
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no idea bro..new prices, i mean for wholsale nt out yet
when da previous ipods came, the MRSP and my cost price, quiet a gap i wud say...smile.gif
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I'm afraid I'm not the waiting type. If the thread posted on Apple Byte is true, and it is going to be available tomorrow, I'm gonna have to get it ASAP, high price and all. Orange!
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OT: Need to get one for the mrs but with engraving for her convo. It can only be obtain from US Stores only right?

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wat they said on apple byte...
gosh hv to go n check...
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RTAOT: Dont know about Malaysia since we dont have an online Apple Store, but Apple Singapore does.

RTAOT =Response To An OT tongue.gif
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OT: Need to get one for the mrs but with engraving for her convo. It can only be obtain from US Stores only right?
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not necessarily. any apple store which has an alternative online store with full purchasing features. hence malaysian one tak boleh pakai. that one tipu punyer.

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gotta go kl to check out the new ipods la...
must call dealer for new pricing...
too much to do...

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OT: The new iPod pricings are in, courtesy of Machines!

http://machines.com.my/All_new_iPods.php

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Funny how I asked the KLCC branch just now, and the guy said "in two weeks time". Are infos such as these only privy to certain staff only? Shame on you Machines.
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OMG OMG OMG OMG ipod touch ... blush.gif rclxms.gif sleek!!! rclxm9.gif
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Yup, now you can get any iPod, from the entry level Shuffle to the more higher end iPod Touch, BELOW RM1000! shocking.gif *notwithstanding the higher capacity iPod Touches*

Also, just changed money just now at Maybank Bureau de Change, for my trip to Frankfurt tomorrow. RM was 3.5 for USD1, so for the 16GB Nano, we only pay an RM99 premium over the Machine price. Normal, or lower premium than before?

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Hey..i read in winpwn forum you can restore a custom firmware using itunes8.
Just some info for u guys..

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 12 2008, 12:03 AM)
Yup, now you can get any iPod, from the entry level Shuffle to the more higher end iPod Touch, BELOW RM1000! shocking.gif *notwithstanding the higher capacity iPod Touches*

Also, just changed money just now at Maybank Bureau de Change, for my trip to Frankfurt tomorrow. RM was 3.5 for  USD1, so for the 16GB Nano, we only pay an RM99 premium over the Machine price. Normal, or lower premium than before?
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string, not sure leh. smile.gif
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Back to iTunes 8!

http://gizmodo.com/5048237/how-to-get-the-...lizer-in-itunes

Instructions on how to get the real Magnetosphere into your iTunes visualizer list.

1. Go to that link, search for either an .exe for Windows or a zip file for Mac users. For Mac users, if you need the file, I can pass it to you through email. Be advised the visualizer file is LEGAL for distribution, they are still in beta.
2. To install it on Mac, put it in /Users/username/Library/iTunes/iTunes Plug-ins. for Windows folks, doubleclick the .exe. MAKE SURE you scan the .exe first, dont want yourself to be downloading a virus instead.
3. Enjoy!

Personally, I think the built-in iTunes visualizer is way better than Magnetosphere, although I can see similarities and how they've improved upon the original Magnetosphere. Looking at the void as nebulas spring into existence, and then birthing a planet, and tons of streaks of light shooting towards the surface of the dark planet. Very beautiful.


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Thanks again bro...

Magnetosphere...highhhh....
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rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif Yahoo!! My Genius on iPod Touch works already! I removed all songs from iPod Touch and re-sync again. Now Genius works like a charm!
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hi guys,

i came across a new terms and condition in itunes 8, whereby it has a line that goes like this :

U.S. SALES ONLY

Purchases or rentals (as applicable) from iTunes Store available to you only in the United States only and are not available in any other location. You agree not to use or attempt to use the iTunes Store from outside of the available territory. Apple may use technologies to verify such compliance



it comes up whenever i try to purchase songs / redeem itunes gift codes.

should we be concerned with this ? for now, i only click on "cancel", and abort my purchases. rclxub.gif


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hi guys,

i came across a new terms and condition in itunes 8, whereby it has a line that goes like this :

U.S. SALES ONLY

Purchases or rentals (as applicable) from iTunes Store available to you only in the United States only and are not available in any other location. You agree not to use or attempt to use the iTunes Store from outside of the available territory. Apple may use technologies to verify such compliance

it comes up whenever i try to purchase songs / redeem itunes gift codes.

should we be concerned with this ? for now, i only click on "cancel", and abort my purchases.  rclxub.gif
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Well, as of now there is no enforcement yet. And hopefully will not cause Apple can always check based on our IP address. Let say Malaysia IP access iTunes USA store will alert the system cut us off OUCH! cry.gif
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let me give you a little hint on why it is necessary for apple (or similar corporation) to put a disclaimer like this.


just try relating on why it is necessary to have different regional codes for dvd etc (for example region 2 for europe) and different theatrical launching dates worldwide


to put a disclaimer like this, merely lets apple off the hook momentarily (as they want to profit as well and appeal to a bigger market), but doesn't mean that apple isn't liable.
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if apple really goes on to "verify" us users based on location and cut us off, then our itunes credits are as good as gone, i suppose ..
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To those who had been keeping up with what J.J.Abrams had been up to, his brand new sci-fi TV show, Fringe is up for purchase on iTunes. Option to buy the entire season is available as well, think of it as a season pass in which future episodes are downloadable immediately once made available. This is usually a day after it has debut on pay-per-view network, just like the case of Lost.


Added on September 14, 2008, 2:37 amRestoring the second time from the first restore after Firmware 2.1, and on the iTunes 8 Capacity meter at the bottom of the screen, I could have sworn I see a 5th type, called "Apps" colored green. But after the second restore, it is gone? Have it been absorbed into the "Other" type? unsure.gif

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i tink even i noticed da green bar for da 1st time just now...
and for me, its still thr...

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 12 2008, 01:54 AM)
Back to iTunes 8!

http://gizmodo.com/5048237/how-to-get-the-...lizer-in-itunes

Instructions on how to get the real Magnetosphere into your iTunes visualizer list.

1. Go to that link, search for either an .exe for Windows or a zip file for Mac users. For Mac users, if you need the file, I can pass it to you through email. Be advised the visualizer file is LEGAL for distribution, they are still in beta.
2. To install it on Mac, put it in /Users/username/Library/iTunes/iTunes Plug-ins. for Windows folks, doubleclick the .exe. MAKE SURE you scan the .exe first, dont want yourself to be downloading a virus instead.
3. Enjoy!

Personally, I think the built-in iTunes visualizer is way better than Magnetosphere, although I can see similarities and how they've improved upon the original Magnetosphere. Looking at the void as nebulas spring into existence, and then birthing a planet, and tons of streaks of light shooting towards the surface of the dark planet. Very beautiful.
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Check out the following tips for new visualizer in iTunes 8:

When you have the new iTunes visualizer open for more control options:
? -- Toggle help screen
M -- Change mode
P -- Change palette
I -- Display track info
C -- Toggle auto-cycle (on by default)
F -- Toggle Freeze mode
N -- Toggle Nebula mode
L -- Toggle Camera Lock

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Yup itunes8 + fw2.1 = new capacity meter with apps added. One thing also the increment of size when we transfer stuff shown in real time.
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holy crap ipod touch 32GB only RM1629? the older generation 32GB is RM1999 at machine which i saw it 2 weeks ago.

ipod is getting cheaper and affordable. rclxms.gif
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The 1st gen is always a premium to pay. Its for their R&D, after that then it will get cheaper and cheaper.
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having some hardtime to find album artwork with itun8.0 . anybody has the same problem ?
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Really sucks for ppl that just bought an ipod...
Then found out better and cheaper ones are coming...LOL..
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QUOTE(neekun @ Sep 14 2008, 07:30 AM)
Check out the following tips for new visualizer in iTunes 8:

When you have the new iTunes visualizer open for more control options:
? -- Toggle help screen
M -- Change mode
P -- Change palette
I -- Display track info
C -- Toggle auto-cycle (on by default)
F -- Toggle Freeze mode
N -- Toggle Nebula mode
L -- Toggle Camera Lock
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Awesome! More controls over the elements in the visualizer is always welcomed. "Toggel Nebula mode"? I wonder if you can create more planets or increase the size of the single planet birthed, so that I can see the light streaks hit it better?

QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Sep 14 2008, 12:53 PM)
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Yup itunes8 + fw2.1 = new capacity meter with apps added. One thing also the increment of size when we transfer stuff shown in real time.
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Yup, I got that fixed on mine. It was acting up initially, but I get a green "Apps" bar on the capacity meter now. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Masamune @ Sep 14 2008, 01:29 PM)
Really sucks for ppl that just bought an ipod...
Then found out better and cheaper ones are coming...LOL..
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That is why I always keep up on which Apple products are about, or due for a refresh. For casual buyers who do not really care that their products are about to be refreshed, it does not affect them, but to those who do care, then this link is important to check if your potential purchase is about to get replaced by a new procut refresh:-

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

Always be in the know, knowledge is power.
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post Sep 14 2008, 04:14 PM

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@string

Thanks string!
Its a great website..i am the type that wants to know ahead before buying..
Going to the airport soon and to Thailand tonight then Moscow tmr morning..
Won't be online for quite some time..
But will be back when i can.. smile.gif
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post Sep 14 2008, 04:19 PM

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Thats why i almost bought the MBP but postponed coz there's gonna be a product refresh next month. Hope its a good one.

Errr ... this already OT la.
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post Sep 17 2008, 09:27 PM

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hi, want to ask.. previously i purchased some song and just keep in iTunes, but when kena virus rclxub.gif and reformat my harddisk..now i restore my iTunes, the songs all gone, is there any chance to get back the song without purchase again.. icon_question.gif
thanks for your information..
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post Sep 17 2008, 09:29 PM

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hi there. you will not remember me, but i have purchased an itunes card from you before.

songs no. apps yes.
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post Sep 17 2008, 09:37 PM

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@iphone 2008
Buy the itunes card for ?? purchase the song or ??
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post Sep 17 2008, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(twinkles @ Sep 17 2008, 09:37 PM)
@iphone 2008
Buy the itunes card for ?? purchase the song or ??
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sad.gif don't have iphone ma, is sample gift card from supplier, want me know how to redeem..buy songs, very expensive shakehead.gif
because of this card, now also make me want to have one iphone... spend money some more... rclxub.gif

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post Sep 17 2008, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(twinkles @ Sep 17 2008, 09:37 PM)
@iphone 2008
Buy the itunes card for ?? purchase the song or ??
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all three; songs, movies, apps
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post Sep 20 2008, 08:55 PM

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i dun know y
but my itune 8 is a bit lag and if sync large amount of data with iphone it will hang there but it stil sync. but after sync still no respond.

anyone know how to solve it?
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post Nov 14 2008, 11:01 AM

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How do I sync selected photos in a folder to my iPhone? At the moment I have to create another folder and duplicate those photos there for iTunes to sync, which is stupid. Is there a workaround?
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post Nov 14 2008, 11:11 AM

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its not stupid actually when it helps you to organize your pictures up.
why not you just make a folder and select the ones u want and sync?

and trust me the more the pictures are in the folder the more mess up it will be
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post Nov 14 2008, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ Nov 14 2008, 11:11 AM)
its not stupid actually when it helps you to organize your pictures up.
why not you just make a folder and select the ones u want and sync?

and trust me the more the pictures are in the folder the more mess up it will be
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Thanks for the advice.

But lets say I have photos taken during my son's birthday. There are photos of adults, kids, etc. I only want to sync the kids' photos into my iPhone. I don't want any photos of the adults in my iPhone. Yet I don't want to create another folder just for this. I want to maintain the big birthday folder in my computer without deleting or relocating any photos there.

Is that possible? If it is, how do I do it? Can it be done in iTunes or do I need a 3rd party software? Do I have to SSH?
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post Nov 14 2008, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Bernard Yeo @ Nov 14 2008, 01:25 PM)
Thanks for the advice.

But lets say I have photos taken during my son's birthday. There are photos of adults, kids, etc. I only want to sync the kids' photos into my iPhone. I don't want any photos of the adults in my iPhone. Yet I don't want to create another folder just for this. I want to maintain the big birthday folder in my computer without deleting or relocating any photos there.

Is that possible? If it is, how do I do it? Can it be done in iTunes or do I need a 3rd party software? Do I have to SSH?
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i never heard of any 3rd party software which enables you to do that and you cannot bypass itunes to do that (common sense, will tell you why)


there is only one feasible method which i can think of; is to create another folder and duplicating desired pictures into that separate folder and during synchronisation, tick that folder.



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Thats why I never sync photos to my iPhone. To much hassle to create duplicate photos where my concern is on limited HD space. Sumore when it sync, it will create another folder containing different size of the pictures to serve as a cache when u need to re-sync the pics. That folder can be even bigger than the original size of the pics folder.
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QUOTE(iPhone2008 @ Sep 17 2008, 10:02 PM)
all three; songs, movies, apps
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there are free application also rite...

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