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 Valum ram vs performance ram, effect on overclocking the FSB

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post Sep 9 2008, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(zer0hour @ Sep 9 2008, 06:55 PM)
Sigh ok looks like time for a technical explanation.
Intel processor speed is a function of two things:
1. Front Side Bus (FSB) speed
2. Clock multiplier.

Intel quoted FSB numbers are quad pumped, thus to derive the actual FSB speed of your processor, you need to divide by 4.

Non Extreme Edition processors have their clock multiplier locked, so overclocking is achieved by increasing the processor FSB.

Now very important: The lowest speed you can run your RAM is 1:1 with the FSB. (I think so, has anyone seen 0.9:1 divider?)

Every processor model is different. For example, your E4600 has FSB800/4 = FSB200. Thus at stock, your RAM is at DDR2-400 (DDR is double pumped), as Goldfries has explained. Thus you have a lot of headroom, as your RAM can reach DDR2-800, or FSB400. Your processor will not reach 12x400.

Now, your question. Performance RAM is used for processors that have higher stock FSBs or lower multipliers. As an example, I'm using a q9300 that is native 333x7.5. Now i know that my chip can reach 3.5Ghz, but to get there I would need 467FSB = DDR2-934. Your RAM would not be able to reach that, thus I need to use DDR2-1066.

Also, performance RAM has tighter timings. Typically ValueRAM has latencies of 5-5-5-18 ot 5-5-5-15. Performance RAM can go to 4-4-4-12 or better.
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There are some gem value ram out there laugh.gif
Heard of FPY5 1300mhz?
Heard of Team Value 1100mhz and good latency? laugh.gif
It is a matter of chip and what it bin to do

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post Sep 9 2008, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Sep 9 2008, 08:30 PM)
A-data d9gmh brows.gif
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300 per pair lah sweat.gif
Can get Xtreem 1066 for a little more icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 14 2008, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 13 2008, 02:48 AM)
failing that,

how about goldfries edition rams? world fastest ddr2 rams lol! laugh.gif
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post Sep 20 2008, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Sep 20 2008, 07:56 PM)
@darude87 i mean gaming.
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post Sep 22 2008, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Sep 22 2008, 02:48 PM)
don't think its the fsb wall.. e2160 can easily run 400fsb..
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Not really,my E2160 is walled at 390 laugh.gif
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post Sep 23 2008, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Sep 22 2008, 11:04 PM)
I only know new revisions of Corsair Dominators DDR2 works like crap doh.gif
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1066mhz rev1.2 is good rclxm9.gif
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post Nov 11 2008, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(zim_civil @ Nov 11 2008, 02:08 AM)
early this year, im using VALUE RAM for my rig..
im using 2Gb of RAM and my PC gone hang when
using SOLIDWORKS for hours.. doh.gif

but when i change to PERFORMANCE RAM, the
PC going smoothly for SOLDWORKS... thumbup.gif

why this happen?
any one can help me for explaination?  icon_question.gif
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Could be a lot of factor.
Lack of vdimm,timing is too tight for value ram or you get bad luck and get some defective ram(Always memtest for 1st night of ram)
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post Nov 15 2008, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(yemz88 @ Nov 15 2008, 11:22 PM)
wah.... so complicated..  rclxub.gif  anyway, i'll try it... must understand one by one first... hehe... erm, one thing wanna ask... what safe temp for cpu and mobo (system) include on load?? i on my pc 24/7 non stop.... now, at 3.6ghz on load (when in stress test) can reach 65C....
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TJmax is 100 C so it is ok icon_rolleyes.gif

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