Hi Chow Chow owners! I have been researching Chow Chows for quite a while and feel like adopting one. I just have one question, will Chow Chows over-heat if I leave it outside? My car porch (well covered and high) is about 400 sqf and I am planning to keep my pet there. Any comments is appreciated.

Thanks man. I read so many comments about chows needing cool weather that I am worried. I just hate it when people comment based on assumptions.

Thanks for clearing that up. Can anyone recommend a reputable Chow Chow breeder?

This post has been edited by yktan: Dec 7 2008, 09:45 PM

I've been looking around for a nice Chow Chow... for those who own one, how much is a fair price for a puppy (healthy one). I've contacted a breeder and also saw a very good looking Chow Chow in a pet shop and both sources quote a price of RM3k+. Is that the normal price for a Chow Chow?

I have seen ads in adpost.com and <no spam links> that sells chow puppies for less than RM2k but they are all not available at the moment and I am afraid to buy from an unknown source. Anyone can recommend a breeder/shop that is reputable? Main concern is puppy must have good genes and healthy.

This post has been edited by yktan: Dec 19 2008, 06:33 PM

Thanks bro. I'll go Petsmore at Desa Park City to have a look. I've been to the one near OUG and also the one in Kepong (near OCBC) but they don't have Chow Chows. Did you buy yours in a pet shop?

Update: I went to Petsmore (Desa Park) and they did have a Chow Chow there but it's a 3-month old red one. The staff that served me (guy) is really nice... he even opened the door and let me pet the Chow Chow. The Chow Chow is very friendly and active once the door is open. Anyways, I prefer cream-coloured ones and the price is too much also (RM3200+). Guess I would have to look harder for cheaper ones.

This post has been edited by yktan: Dec 22 2008, 08:50 PM

She's very pretty dcwk24! Well, Chow Chows are well known to be wary of strangers. But I guess I am quite safe with your Chow since I am very fair

Btw, I've got some questions for your experienced Chow owners.
(1) Do you guys all keep your Chow Chow in your house?
(2) Do you let him/her roam free in the house or have a playpen or cage/crate?
(3) Do you have a dedicated corner/place in your house that you put newspaper for your Chow to poo poo and wee wee?
(4) How many times do you feed your Chow?

Thanks for all the info jarjar6666. I hope my Chow Chow also will be as easy to toilet train.

BTW, does anyone know which vet is more experienced with Chow Chows or good vets around KL/PJ? Need to bring my puppy to have a check up.

Do you guys give any supplements to your Chow Chow? What brand dog food do you use? I was told that mine is on Science Plan now and I hope to gradually switch him to Eagle Pack Holistic (was told it is better, no chemicals)....

Hi there dcwk24, I saw that 2 months old female Chow Chow in 1Utama on Christmas day and she is still there. Everyone who passes by her crate sure stop and moan "so cute, so cute" hehe.

I just brought back my 2 months old Chow Chow today and place him in a cage (will post some pictures later). Got some questions for more experienced dog owners:

(1) He pees and poos everywhere in the cage. I have to clean up the poo quickly or else he will step on it. I tried spraying the toilet training liquid on the newspaper (at the bottom tray) at one side of the cage but so far he totally ignore it. He seems to like to pee right in the center of the cage but poo everywhere. How do I begin his toilet training? Will he learn in the cage or do I have to bring him out of the cage and place him on some newspaper so that he will get the idea?

(2) Since he pee and poo everywhere, I don't let him out of the cage at all now. Is that alright? He moans and cries but even though it is very heartbreaking, I try to ignore him now.

(3) He drinks lots of water. I am using the licking type of water feeder (500ml) and he finishes it in 7 hours. Therefore, I think he pees a lot. Is that normal?

(4) He likes to bite everything (including the cage ... I guess to free himself ) and everytime I open the cage, he will try to get out and bite my hands. The pet shop guy said that I should not allow him to bite my hands or else he will be very destructive (bite everything in the house next time). So, I say "NO" sternly and hit his butt lightly but he still bite my hands everytime I put my hands in the cage. Do you have the same problem?

(5) Are 2-months old puppies too young to learn simple comands like "NO"? My Chow Chow totally ignore everything I say at the moment

Dear dcwk24, I did not buy the Chow Chow puppy in 1U. I bought her brother from Petsmore from Jalan Sultan. Yeah! It's sort of my Christmas present . Of course you and your wife are welcome view him... maybe when he has finished all his vaccinations and behave enough, we can have a doggie meetup?

I went to Petsmore 1U again today (I always go there and seek advice from one of the staff cos he is quite experienced in rearing dogs... he has 6 dogs at home right now if I am not wrong) and the Chow Chow is now "reserved"... so I think you might have to hurry if you want to have a look for the last time!

Yeah it is quite pitiful that she is in a cage but this is to avoid "accidents" of peeing and pooing everywhere. I read some books about raising puppies and they said that it is better for them to be caged if no one is around to pay attention to them... once they get used to peeing and pooing everywhere, it takes a longer time to train them to do it at a proper place.

About the water, I found the problem. The bottle that I used didn't fit the dispenser properly, so it leaks a lot when my puppy licks it or even accidentally rub against it. I changed the bottle and now it doesn't leak so much (and I don't have to keep on changing the newspaper on the tray).

Good to hear that the biting problem is normal. Now I bought him a cloth toy that is wounded up like a thick rope and he is having a lot of fun with it. He has another ball but I think I play with it more than him

Thanks for the tips!

jarjar6666, I agree that the look of the puppy is not the only determining factor if it is a pet, but some people choose the look because they want to "show" the dog in the future. It looks like you chose a very well behaved, may be partly because it is a female. I saw the sister of my puppy and she is very very gentle and tame (the pet shop person said that females are higher probability of becoming well behaved). I chose my puppy because he is very energetic... an indication of him being healthy (from books again).

You are so lucky! You are most definitely right about the pet shop puppies.... even if I place a mat at one corner of the cage, my puppy will still poo poo near or on it. Since he is already used to pooing and peeing everywhere in the cage, now I am trying a new technique... every time after I feed him, I will bring him out to my car porch and try to get him to pee/poo at the newspaper that I prepared (with some training spray). Hopefully he will learn it and I can abandon the cage and let him roam in my car porch when I am not at home.

Woah, already know how to "sit" at 2 months... that's really good! I am training him "NO" and "COME" at the moment. He seems to know what I mean but sometimes just choose to ignore it.

Yeap, I already have 3 toys which I am trying to switch around every few days. I think I have to pick up more teething toys since he likes to bite and pull at the moment.

Thanks so much for sharing your experience guys, I wish more people can share because every puppy is different and it will be interesting to see what other success stories there are.

This post has been edited by yktan: Dec 28 2008, 01:31 AM

Hi dcwk24, this is a picture of my Chow Chow. Sorry it's a bit blur cos it's taken indoors at night.


This post has been edited by yktan: Dec 29 2008, 01:10 AM

That's so cute. At what age do you bring your puppy out for walks? After all her vaccinations?

Nice videos! My puppy (2 months old) has learned "no", "come" and "sit" commands so far. I think next in line is "down" and "stay"... with those commands in line, I think I will feel safe to bring him for walks (especially "come" and "stay"). How I wish toilet training can be as easy as teaching commands (lucky you!).

I think I should start recording some videos too.... they don't stay young for long hehe.

Hi sbugeye78, welcome to the Chow Chow gang! It's a nice red Chow Chow you got there. Did you get your new pet from a pet shop or breader? Yeah I am having a rough time with pee pee and poo poo too. I wish you all the best!

Has anyone bought a pet carrier to transport your Chow Chow puppy to a vet or groomer? Currently I am looking to buy a pet carrier because I need to transport my Chow Chow puppy back to my hometown with me during the CNY (I am going to drive alone, so leaving him alone behind will be a disaster since he is not toilet trained and bites everything at the moment). I am considering either the DogIt Pet Cargo 500 or 600. Both can fit my backseat (the 600 is a bit of a squeeze even though can go in the door). The specs are as follows:

(1) Pet Cargo 500
(2) Pet Cargo 600

The Pet Cargo 500 will be able to fit my Chow Chow for the next 2 months (I guess) and Pet Cargo 600 will probably last 1 - 2 months more. Which of these would you buy? I was thinking to buy the Pet Cargo 500 for now and hopefully he will be toilet trainer by the next 2 months and I will be able to let him sit on the backseat without the carrier. Any comments/advice?

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sbugeye78, how old is your Chow Chow? Mine's 2 months old and by Chinese New Year, he would have done his second vaccination only... I don't dare to put in a pet hotel. Where are you boarding your puppy?

sbugeye78, my home town is in Johor. Yeah, I am very afraid that he will pee pee during the trip and hyper-activity/biting stuff in the car. That's the reason why I want to buy a pet carrier at the moment. When he is toilet trained and can old his pee pee (probably around 4 months old), then I'll let him ride in the car without the carrier.

Wow, your chow chow only poo once a day? That's amazing. What food do you feed him, how many times a day and how much each time? I am feeding him Artemis Fresh Mix (Medium to Large puppy) 2 times a day and 4 soup spoon (those chinese soup spoon) each time. I'm also giving him multi-vitamin paste each time because he just recovered from flu. On top of that he gets some puppy treats during his training and play time . At the moment, he poo poos 2 times a day on average (normally after each meal).

Have you trained your Chow Chow commands so far? Is he housebroken or newspaper trained? I am in the process of training him to pee pee and poo poo on newspaper at the moment. Today he seems like he improved a lot. I confined him straight after his dinner and he poo pooed and pee peeed in 5 minutes. No accidents during playtime too, so I am very glad today

This post has been edited by yktan: Jan 6 2009, 12:09 AM

I have exactly the same problem as you sbugeye78. If I let him poo in the cage, he poos at random places and step on the poo if I don't get to it fast. Sometimes the poo get stuck into certain parts at the bottom of the cage (between the metal wires) which makes it almost impossible to remove. I tried to bring him out to the porch and carry him to a spot that I layered with newspaper every time he wants to poo. The problem is sometimes when I carry him when he is halfway pooing, he will stop and won't do anything on the newspaper.... later go back to the cage will straight away poo in the cage

Now I bought four pieces of the playpen fencing and set it up at my porch with lots of newspaper on the floor. Now, after every meal, I will put him inside and don't let him out until he has done his pee pee and poo poo. On the first day, he took almost 30 minutes to poo.... and I rewarded him a treat before letting him out. On the second day onwards, he seems to understand that he needs to pee pee and poo poo inside (maybe because I leave some of his pee-stained newspaper there), so when I put him in, he will normally pee and poo in 15 minutes. Maybe you want to try this method and see if it works for you? This might solve your poo poo problem. As for pee pee, you will still have to clean the cage tray until he is paper trained or can hold it long enough.

sbugeye78, like jarjar6666 said, don't worry your puppy will be fine. Mine does not have the luxury of air conditioning either . Mine drinks A LOT of water too... he will drink more than 1 liter on a hot day, so it's pretty normal. If you bring him out to play (exercise), make sure you have a water bottle/dish there too cause he gets real thirsty. If you use a water dish and your dog wets his neck/chest area all the time, you may want to change to a water bottle feeder... my groomer said that he has seen a few Chow Chow with skin irritation/infection at the neck/chest area as a result of wetness.

jarjar6666 & sbugeye78, what type of toys does your Chow Chow like? I bought 3 types of toys:
(1) A rubber ball
(2) A DNA - like rubber toy
(3) A cloth-rope type toy
But he only likes the cloth-rope toy. The totally ignores the other 2

jarjar6666, do you leave bearbear outside even at night? If you do, are you afraid that someone might dognap him? Initially I wanted to let my puppy be outside so that he can have more space to run around and play but the pet shop people advised me not to house him outside when he is so young.

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dcwk24, my boy is named Louis. When he has his third jab (beginning Feb), we arrange for a meetup ok? I want to socialize him, so is it ok if I let him play with Donna?

I can't bring Louis out for walks yet, so now I just play with him in my porch 2 times a day.... normally early in the morning (7am ++) and late in the evening (9pm++). Both times not that warm, so he won't get tired so fast. Thanks for the tips about infection from grass. I will take note of it. Does Donna poo during her walks? How do you dispose the poo? Now, I wrap everything up in plastic bag and throw into a big dustbin with those black plastic bags. The problem is it gets a bit stinky inside, so I have to throw away every few days.

jarjar6666, thanks for the offer. It would be great for Louis to meet bearbear. I can't wait for him to get over with the innoculations. I thought of doing the same thing... chain the cage to the grill or something permanent like a support pillar, it's a great idea.

How do you clean up the poo on the grass? Do you bring along a plastic bag?

Hi there *QQ*, your chow chow is sooooo adorable! What's his/her name? How old is he/her? Louis (my male Chow Chow) also has brown droopy ears!
Did you trim his fur? His fur is like so short and tidy


I agree jarjar6666 I can't wait for Louis to get done with his vaccinations and meet some new friends/playmates.

This post has been edited by yktan: Jan 21 2009, 12:08 AM

TungTeng is very slim, I think you have to change her name!

Louis is going to get his third vaccination early next month. However, when I brought him to the vet for his second jab, the vet said that he was given the first shot too early... he got his first shot at 40 days old and the vet said that it is 2 days too early (he might still have mommy's antibody that will kill off the vaccine and render the first jab useless). So he advised me to repeat another shot.... that means instead of 3 shots, he suggests 4 shots. I am still thinking if I should do it.

I am kind a pissed with the pet shop now.... I am thinking of going back to ask their side of the story.

This post has been edited by yktan: Jan 22 2009, 12:28 AM