just curious, will the glider 'fragentnize' my room? plan to keep 2 in my room....
and how often should i change d bedding?
aniting important to learn? secrets on handling sg?

sorry to be noob. just want sg keepers opinion rather than jz reading repeated infos on d web.

ive read d 1st page easily 5x, other source 10x.....
i can act go for sg exam d... haha. more prepared for sg den my coming test....
plan to get 1.1.. waiting patiently... kakaka

no matter where i go, flaming always happens... haha. well, this is lyn.haha.
below are my 2 cents, if easily influences, please avoid reading
if easily irritated, please avoid reading
im nt trying to point fingers, JUST STATING MY OPINION

to me, i find that petsafari and toby pets are okay. better compare to other places and much better compare to carefore(petsconer), and small petshops...

price may nt be very low as they are a big petshop. the thing is, how many people in lyn whu sell animals any different? all they do is complain, bt exacly how many actualy give FREE POUCH/FOOD/ACCESSORIES ect?or at least make it COMPULSORY? based on my exp, those who buy live stocks are kept in boxes, LIKE ALL OTHER PETSHOPS... so why are some ppl so against it bt still purchase them?

exp i had in toby's:ive played with the joeys in tobys and it look healthy to me. once, a sg gt its tail wet while eating. after a while, one of the rep notice the wet tail. he took it out to check. so i ask wat happend, he say 'no la, ceking apasal ekor macam ini'. the fact that they took the initiative to check. as for information on sg, they are still workers. they are not sent for course for learning bout every animals. ive seen one of them act look up on a book just to explain to me. it was a new stock and they are not familiar with the name. that is initiative...

lets take me for example, when i buy live stocks fr toby's(snake) usually i will purchase full set there and then. and will immediately go home so i can let my snake rest. i dislike keeping my snake in a box as it may stress them out.

have anyone gone to pets lover before? that is also many times worse than toby's petshop. once, my gf saw 2 hamster dining on a dead hamster. after d big commotion, then one rep took his time looking wat happned. after that, he slowly look for a box. the dead ham's head nearly finished b4 it is removed....

when u purchase something fr the petshop, no matter how much you try, it will still stress the animals out. why do i say so? lets see, if you snatch a sg from the huge exzo, it already frighten the sg, after 20min of playing, you put him/her into a pouch.... then leave.. the sg is now separated from the others..

well, now lets take fluff. how many act find it one of the best? they are slow to react. low in knowledge. for once, i saw d puppy pooed, and another puppy eating it before they decided to remove the poo. next is the Syrian hamster... damm pity full. so many in so small tanks. and the owners's hamster. one hams in a huge cage. 2-3x bigger then the tanks to keep d Syrians..
just like all the other petshops ive seen... same scene, same conditions...

like pets wonderland who used to sell livestock in packages. how many actualy buy in full? so ppl in lyn sell sg in full package which includes cage, food, vit, supplements, toys, pouchS? some sellers claims that they get to know the ppl buying before selling. how does the seller knows how reliable? does d seller checks on every sales? are ALL sg alive and healty? are all sg sells in pairs AS RECOMMENDED?

there is no fantastic petshops as all are up for the money. even the breeder. why produce so many sg to supply to the petshops? even home breeders are taking advantage on the price and sell them just slightly below petshop's price. if one is truly not for the money, they would just sell those who are accidentally produced and not to the extent of buying wild gliders just for profit. ive purchase animals fr toby and its very healthy. it may be because of the quality of the pet or of my care.

therefore in my conclusion, wherever the animals are purchase from, if the person buying is reliable for all the events. for they are the one who help increase the demand in the market. humans have insatiable appetite for money and also materialistic items. the best we can hope for is US as pets owner to care for our glider as we(humans) are the one to strip them of their habitats and produce them for pets. i know i dont like to be kept in cages, feed to grow and reproduce.


anyway for those who wants to debate or become friends to continue debating, you can always pm to avoid unnecessary waste of space in glider thread.
sorry for the misused of language
and i want to point that this is all based on my exp.
i do not intend to hurt any party or find fault with any party

ps/ will be joining the sg group soon. waiting for my joeys

reg
jcmf


@dcared
as for ur problem, its best to see avet to confirm.

as i have said, i do not intend to insult/point fingers/annoy/offend or any other reason BUT stating my opinion. i apologize if i have done so. all i want to do is to state the situation which is currently happening

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Added on September 9, 2008, 8:32 pmwell, i assume this is what other petshop owners feel. for instance, sales of underage joey happening in toby's. to their knowledge, they are doing their best. bt all ppl can see is flawns.

i sincerely do not hope to blame any people involved.


reg
jcmf

This post has been edited by jcmf: Sep 9 2008, 08:32 PM

aurion
since u keep in ur room, does it emit odor? planning to keep a male in my room...
wat do u recommend?

we can feed those super fat mealworms rite? nt that cheap. saw it in kl d other day, if want to bake, maybe i can help u buy. haha.

still waitng for my glider....
gona die soonn...

if u all gt sg gathering, bt i dun have my sg yet... can bring other pet rite?
my pet snake. haha. she can catch sg kua... haha(jk)

lol, joking oni la. my snake after run away. haha. nt reali pocket trained...
im taking my sg on 20th dis month, hope will b punctual. cz supose to be wif me on 15th(8woop).

where and when? nt yet confirm time n place yet rite? hope dis sat nite. haha. cz will b visiting fluff with my bros


erm, its cfc free aircond

lol, i memang go der lapak wan. since so long more den can wait for me to get my gliders. den can train them to do some trick. hope they are a fast learner. hehe.

and its common knowledge since im using it already(aircond)

lol, wat u mean intro?
my glider? hopefully in 2weeks time, den i can show off here. take tons of pic. and show off. eheheehe

lol. act i know u wan. u oso see me b4. and im a fren of brian. and snakes are nt wif me. at my frens hs.(mum dun let me keep....)abit off topic d rite?

btw, fluff der gt sg food r(GliderSLURP )? i wana buy some, next week or so. hehe.

can pm me d price?

u will rmb me when u c me la. whu THEY? haha.
r u gona keep sg of ur own r?
cant wait... i want my glider.....

im also a student and im getting 2. hehe

my snake can watch anime wif me. her fave is bleach(surprisingly so m i)
like they say, like owner like pet. u like sg, ur sg oso like sg.
will experiment on mine soon enuf


i agree.. most animals are like dat. haha

planing to diy 3*3*2 cage. hahaha. using pvc coated metal. wana paint bt duno where to get pets frendly paint.... any suggestion? cz d 3*1*1(estimated) ft cage fr petshack looks small, bt d big one too big. haha. if can, maybe i make 4ft high.... haha. cz i gt space for tall cage...

he looks familiar... sakaibukit.... i cant rmb whu, bt sum1 oso selling adult snuggie b4.... cant rmb... "she" say bought too many or stg like dat.....
have u guys seen d petshop in brickfields?worse then d pic.... almost 15 JOEYS ..... adult less.... and its like no food.... bt quite cheap at dat time....
din get...

sure r? hehe, help yah. btw, SG canot chew the pvc mesh meh? if chew after lobang here lobang der.... haha
btw, saw ur b'future baby'... at pet shack. hehee



lol. yeap, i rmb d. its him. cruel animal seller....


i can find d pvc coated mesh... tot metal cz scared d pvc one can kena makan.... haha



thanks for d info. hehe




ANYONE CAN HELP
very simple, show me some diy cages.... hehe. sure r, pvc better.... if pvc, den can make bigger abit. cheaper. haha

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Added on September 13, 2008, 7:20 pmi tot pve coated metal easier. cz shaping. haha

This post has been edited by jcmf: Sep 13 2008, 07:20 PM

go rabbit thread la. haha.


btw, yang,brian,han, thanks
ps, han, i will train my sg better. I WONT LOSE

u din play d sg oso.

aik. so fast r?
d lady said 6weeks oop oni leh.... haha.

no la, jz wana kacau jonyeap. cz he on a rabbit mood. haha

wat happned??