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alsree786
post Sep 15 2008, 07:01 PM

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just wanna ask, anyone doing masters in law or an mba programme in monash uni, uni of melbourne or AGSM(for latter course)?
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post Sep 20 2008, 08:08 PM

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asked before, but dun think i got an answer. anyone doing LLM in university of melbourne or MBA at AGSM? kinda wanted to ask a few questions about both courses....
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post Sep 21 2008, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(litaco @ Sep 20 2008, 11:19 PM)
Do u know when is da next 1?? i was thinking studying in Aussie 2 =P
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post Oct 24 2008, 03:20 PM

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anyone doing a bachelor in music in melbourne or brisbane?
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post Oct 30 2008, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(coldblood @ Oct 29 2008, 02:26 PM)
Hi. I want to become a lawyer in Australia but I am confused whether to take JD(Juris Doctor) or LLB degree. JD is going to waste my three years on some other degree. whereas i would prefer LLB. But thats just my perspective, there are tons of people opting for JD and just out of curiosity's sake, i was wondering why.

LLB wise.
Is a combined degree better than a single degree? Sorry because I am still young and fairly lacked of info.
I maybe wrong but I found out that UWA UNSW and U Syd do not offer single LLB anymore but double degrees.
Does combined degree and single degree really matters a lot?

LLB degree
I hope to be able to get enrolled into Monash or maybe get a double degree at UNSW / U Syd / UWA. But the problem is I haven't been to any of the states and I do not know which state provides most opportunities for future lawyers. In terms of employment and gaining training contracts for malaysian students like me. Which state offer most job opportunities for a young lawyer/ law clerk? Sydney? Perth? Melbourne?

Sorry for the long questions. But i am really lost.
Thanks for everything.
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JD is a post graduate degree usually meant for non law graduates who intend to practice law afterwards. it is an intensive alternative to the LLB, and can be done in 3 years whereas the LLB usually requires 4 years. the curriculum is essentially the same and after the JD u can practice provided u complete the relevant practicing certs and apprenticeship.

I assume u mean combined degree as in double degrees (and not a Bachelor of Accounting with Law type of degree). if u meet the requirements of a double degree programme and reckon that u can handle the work load, i suggest go for it. It reflects on your ability and at the end of the day u have two degrees within 5 years. But that is my opinion. It's ok if u just want to stick with the normal LLB route.

Well, im considering practicing in australia soon, and i face a similar dilemma. Legal professionals are not in high demand (comparatively) in Australia and it would be pretty tough to get a full time job if you're relying on your graduate work visa for law. Remember that after the 4 years of your LLb, you have to do your CLP equivalent depending on which state u intend to practice and then comes chambering. I suggest dun worry about this first cause that will be years from now, and the current economic crisis may (hopefully) have dwindled by then and things may change. if u intend to bear this in mind in influencing which uni u intend to study in, i suggest dun do so. enrol in the best uni u can get into for law.
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post Oct 30 2008, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(coldblood @ Oct 30 2008, 10:43 PM)
Referring to haya and alsree
this is RNB's opinion haha ( just to share it here)
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thanks for the info alsree and haya
But my aspiration is to be a lawyer and i really hope to be able to practice in aussie. haya are u doing combined degree of law and other disciplines too?If you are, I was wondering if you do any vacation clerkships? Which uni are u from? just curious.
I heard U Syd is one of the best law schools around.

btw UAI and TER is the same thing right?
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UAI and TER?

anyway, i agree largely with RBR, and he wud be a good source on info for law in australia. if u really want to do law, then go ahead. it'll take u about 6 years to get membership to a state bar/legal society and then u can apply for your PR. Now i guess is just which uni u intend to study in. It would be hard to base your decision on current job demands, but generally i personally would recommend sticking to either Syd, Melb or Brisbane. im planning to do llm in uni of melb next year. Do u know which field of law u are particularly interested in?
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post Oct 31 2008, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Ver @ Oct 31 2008, 10:13 AM)
Hi, sorry for quoting you again, but i was just wondering what you meant by combined degree as in double degrees (and not a Bachelor of Accounting with Law type of degree), because i'm planning on doing a dd(double degree) in law/commerce (majoring in accounting), actually it's just for the benefit of getting a PR, because everyone mentioned that i can get a PR with my first degree after 3 years (accounting), and even get a PR before i graduate.

Job opportunity wise, i'm a bit worried, because a friend of mine that graduated from UWA law school 2 years ago is now jobless, can't much find job. Is there a clear discriminate between locals and non-locals in this field? I don't mean racism or anything, but just personal preference when it comes to such a professional legal part of work. Pls and tq guys xDxD

Btw, UWA law, here i comeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!
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Actually, im not too familiar with the terminology, but a combined degree to me is a degree with a double major, whereas a double degree is a course comprising of two separate degrees done over a shorter span of time. I may be wrong about the terms though.

Yeah, accounting will get u a PR, that's why im using my accounts qualification and not my law degree to get into australia first. This is despite the fact that i intend to practice law in Australia eventually. The key is getting your PR first, as it may give u a boost in your job search since u have residency. It is not impossible to get a job as a lawyer in Australia after u graduate (i try to refrain from using the word impossible in relation to these sort of things. Optimism!), but you must go on and pursue your practice cert and chambering in order to qualify as a Legal practitioner under the SOL. Very hard to rely on your stand alone law degree. As with regards to discrimination, i reckon only experience in the working life there can truly give one an answer. I think it would be natural for them to prefer the locals, but imho, if u are qualified enough, if u can speak English well enough, and u are eligible to work, you shud be ok.




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post Nov 1 2008, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(zltan @ Nov 1 2008, 05:35 PM)

Seriously, you are planning to study in Australia and have no idea what DIAC is?
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haha, i didn't know that as well. i've always referred it to as immi because of the site name. so DIAC is the abbreviation used, got it!


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