hello all,


Those who wants to buy Pioneer Kuros, be it 428XG or 508XG, can head to MFF TODAY!! Big offer they are giving over there with 428XG being offered below RM7k. Depending on nego skill, it can still go down!

Those looking for LG 42PG60UR also got discount, now selling at RM3700 and still can nego and cheaper still if cash n carry. Samsung LA-46A650 is also damn attractively priced as one forummer has mentioned.



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Not sure if PG20 got this thing or not, but if you buy PG60 from Desa HT, you will get 4 years total. 2years from LG and extra 2 years from Desa's insurance (with 1st year being All-risk warranty). meaning

1st year --> LG (plus Desa All-risk warranty)
2nd year -->LG
3rd year --->Desa
4th year --->Desa


Just got 42PG60UR from them and both my wifey and I are very happy with the PQ eventhough its only through components. Will try HDMI input next.




aiz1j,


Will be posting some pics soon once I got time to take them. Just watched Corpse Bride last night, PQ and blackness was very good although can't match Kuros. At half the price of a Kuros, I ain't complaining.



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Did you turn on the anti-IR setting in your set? My LG set has this and I believe all plasmas have it too. Maybe other Pana users can help more. I am using orbiter mode to prevent IR. Before turning this mode on, I use to have some very mild IR with those logo and graphics during news time in OTA channels.

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Pana plasmas can display fault codes through the power LED. You have to watch carefully how it blinks. It has long and short blink and in sequence.


As per my experience with gen4 and gen5 Pana panels, two long blinks means faulty power supply section. Video processor board error gives 5 short blinks or something, but can't remember that well.

But since your unit is under warranty, no need to sweat over that. Let the Pana tech people handle it.

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That was throught my experience dealing with the panels. But upon searching through Google, got the link below and jump to page 38.




Panasonic Plasma TV Troubleshooting Manual

AskDS,


Pana's support is quite responsive. Don't be too happy to see how many fans in your plasma. As being a electro-mechanical thing, they have a lifespan, and in my situation they lasted about 3.5years in dusty outdoor with periodic maintenance. Guess/hopefully they should last longer in your less dusty indoor environment. And pls don't try to lubricate them with WD40.



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Do remember you're not getting a full-fledged PG6000 that was sold overseas with the local PG60UR. I have one and its famous isf-cc menu is MISSING in our local PG60UR. I have asked local LG support/customer service and their reply was they want to make it easier for their local customers by not having so many things to set. Yeah right. When asked further, they ignored me. Way to go LG customer service. You know who you are, LG cust service, Ms.Lam.

So beware if you want to go for PG60UR just for its isf-cc menu. Other than that, its a fine product with very good PQ.




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Yes, almost full suite of colour management system (CMS) one could ask for (at least in the PG6000 lah). Our castrated PG60UR only got WB, black level, gamma and RGB gain/cut. The rest of the controls are out. A proper comparison to what they have for PG6000 in UK is here and look at the OPERATION chapter.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/LG-42PG6000/




Actually got. But you gotto hack into their service menu kua.




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Hmmmm....that is bad. I thought I would be able to further tweak by going into the service menu. Now no hope already. Yes I noticed the ISF thing is not there the moment I got through its menu on 1st power-on. Really castrated version of PG60 that they are selling here.


Fully agree with you on LG customer service experience. They even dared to mention that the firmware the our PG60 has is the latest and there is no newer ones. As though we are idiots and that statement contradicts what was told to you (and I have their email to back up my claim).

Anyway, care to share on how to access LG's service menu? Thanks.


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IR means Image Retention, plasma lingo for some temporarily etched image due to difference in phosphor aging.


a) Not so obvious for my case. Maybe coz my viewing area is quite dimly lit; warm white 25W Philip flourescent for living area. Also, did you remove 1 layer or 2 layers of the plastic film from the screen? You are supposed to only remove one layer.

b) IR was pretty obvious, but after switching on orbiter mode and reduce brightness/contrast, it has almost eliminated IR, save for the menu area.


c) This one I am not sure yet on the service/repair side. But those who handle info side sure KO big time.



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slk5538,


I dunno whether my setting is applicable to your environment or not coz you had said that you have a lot of reflections, meaning your environment is quite bright.

But anyway, my setting is

TV : brightness=30 contrast=50 (this setting will appear dim to most people as I want to protect my baby girl's eyes)
Component1 : brightness=51 contrast=60
HDMI1 : brightness=40 contrast=60


After the 200hours burn-in period is up, I will revise things upward again. Now only done abt 100hours.




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Maybe caused by HDCP thing kua as mentioned in the FAQ below. But bear in mind it is Pioneer FAW not Pana/Sony ones.


http://www.pioneerfaq.info/english/dv610.p...V&question=HDMI

Impressive tv isn't it? I believe PG60 has very good internal video processing/upscaler, at least not inferior to Pana PV80. Color is slightly more natural and I mean in showroom where every tv set are using VIVID/DYNAMIC mode to "impress" prospective customers.

Have to agree OTA (RTM, TV3, NTV7, TV8 bla bla) programmes are very good. I don't have Astro so can't comment much but I would hazard a guess that it would look lovely as well. I remember Pana PV80 OTA performance is very good as well.

By default, PG60 sets its Sharpness setting too high, hence what you have seen in showroom, but with a slightly more noisy picture, due to the sharpening. At home I turned it down to 40-50 compared to 80 (if I remember correctly), and everything still seems same without any perceptible loss of sharpness but with less noise around the edges.

On DVD, it looks fantastic on both component and HDMI input. And I left my Pioneer dv696 in 480i coz PG60's engine is far better in upscaling than Pio's one, especially in de-interlacing.



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Added on October 13, 2008, 10:15 amNot really. I went many, many times for audition but one thing I kept constant was the viewing distance. In my hse, viewing distance is abt 9ft and that is how far away I will stand when auditioning. It is easy to calculate by counting on the floor tiles or carpet at the showroom.



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This post has been edited by speedy3210: Oct 13 2008, 10:15 AM

Yes, if not I won't be able to tell abt its settings. Mine got 4yrs. 2yrs from LG and extended 2yrs from Desa HT, including all-risk warranty for LG's 1yr warranty. the extended 2 years is something like HN's warranty whereby it insures against purchased value of the unit, not remaining market value like BestDenki's.

And for the THX mode, forget it. LG msia castrated the local version of PG60. Their so called "user-friendly" menu lacks the extensive colour management system that made it standout.

And you can get it cheaper than RM3700 quoted above. Bargain more especially now economy is not doing so good.

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I think got that auto brightness/contrast thing and 1-2 features more but insignificant. But I guess they (Pana/Desa) may most probably be at this reno/home fair at KL convention centre next 2 weeks. Might as well wait just that little while coz most probably they may have promo by then.

The money saved can get you a few more BDs, hopefully.



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This post has been edited by speedy3210: Oct 30 2008, 10:06 AM

You mean 42PG60UR? or 42LG60FR? The 1st one is a PDP and latter is LCD.



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KL price is already below that 3699 since 2 mths ago. Will be even lower if you decide to cash-n-carry. Don't worry, even Wira A/B can carry the entire box with its rear seats down. Ngam ngam fit.



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So far no issue whatsoever with those telecine judder in animated mvies like Initial D, movies in Studio Gibli collection etc etc. Mine is LG 42PG60UR.



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