Are you sure that Pana PV80H is not HDMI 1.3, i read somewhere that it is already 1.3 as 1.3 with Deep Color ws released in June 2006. Review of the LG PG20 series http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-...7-32863632.html

HDMI 1.3
Released June 22, 2006.[12][13][76]

Increases single-link bandwidth to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbit/s)
Optionally supports Deep Color with 30-bit, 36-bit, and 48-bit xvYCC, sRGB, or YCbCr compared to 24-bit sRGB or YCbCr in previous HDMI versions.
Incorporates automatic audio syncing (Audio video sync) capability.
Optionally supports output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio streams for external decoding by AV receivers.[77] TrueHD and DTS-HD are lossless audio codec formats used on Blu-ray Discs and HD DVDs. If the disc player can decode these streams into uncompressed audio, then HDMI 1.3 is not necessary, as all versions of HDMI can transport uncompressed audio.
Cable Categories 1 and 2 defined. Category 1 cable is tested up to 74.25 MHz while Category 2 cable is tested up to 340 MHz.
Availability of a new Type C mini-connector for portable devices.[39][78]

This post has been edited by gsdev: Sep 7 2008, 02:31 PM

I did read somewhere that it is HDMI 1.3, I think htkaki also confirmed this some time back. Anyways to fully use the 1.3 the source has to be able to support it too, which i think all new ones do.

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Added on September 8, 2008, 11:33 amThis must be Legend. I have not compared the LG PG20 series but the price point between the PV80 is not that much. How about warranty of 5 years from Panasonic, what about warranty from LG ? that has to count for something.

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Added on September 8, 2008, 11:35 amso series 5 and 6 should have their prices dropping soon ?

This post has been edited by gsdev: Sep 8 2008, 11:35 AM

I read somewhere in Low Yat forums that some one bought from Legend did not have the warraty card but panasonic mailed it to the buyer. It looks like it does not matter where you get it from. The 5 years comes with it.

Wow must be really tempting for thoose looking for LCD TV's...

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Added on September 8, 2008, 1:22 pmI too think it will be 720P...


This post has been edited by gsdev: Sep 8 2008, 01:22 PM

Guys for your Plasma's and LCD's what surge protection devices do you have in place, belkin etc...where is the best place to get

This post has been edited by gsdev: Sep 8 2008, 04:35 PM

Correct me if i am wrong but i beleive astro is already brodcasting in 576i...maybe their re-compression sucks...

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Added on September 8, 2008, 11:45 pmHow many watts?...what happens during power failiure can the UPS hold the sets...

This post has been edited by gsdev: Sep 8 2008, 11:49 PM

Wah so many using belkin gold, looks like will need to get one very soon. Does it have protection for the Astro Dish cable coming in to the decoder...or its not necesarry?

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Added on September 9, 2008, 10:20 amIs that the 7 socket or 8 socket one?

This post has been edited by gsdev: Sep 9 2008, 10:20 AM

Got one today also 8 port gold series, same as yours. It has toll free number and a K.L. 03 number on it for claims Got it from forumer here.

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Added on September 9, 2008, 10:15 pmWhat was the bundled stuff and what was the price...

This post has been edited by gsdev: Sep 9 2008, 10:15 PM

Can, contact forumers selling here, cant say anymore

This one I have to admit i am still not very certain. I have a PV80H which is only HD 720P panel not Full HD 1080P but it can receive 1080P input into the set. In fact if the input is 1080P the picture is better. So i beleive the Panny down scales the 1080P to 720P. Correct me if i am wrong.

Did not plan out for a Full HD as i am not planning to go with Blu-Ray yet...only when prices are down to earth including the media.

Ok thanks for the info. Agreed the picture is much better with 1080P input. Thats whay i got my self an Upscaling HDMI DVDP for my DVD's and have to say for the price point the PQ is very good...

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Added on September 10, 2008, 11:14 amInitially when the HDMI input is selected it shows the input 480P or 1080P

This post has been edited by gsdev: Sep 10 2008, 11:14 AM

Err, because the DVDP Upscaller is tad better

BD's are not an option for me...too $$$

This post has been edited by gsdev: Sep 10 2008, 12:06 PM

I guess they will have to compress the video to lower resolution to fit in a DVD 9. So in summary better to just get the DVD9 unless you go for the actual BD's $$$

How about YAMAHA, Need to correct too

I'd go for the PV80 as it has additional C.A.T.S. system and 3 x HDMI

Panny PV80HM users WARNING, screen burn (image retention issue). I have encountered a problem not major but in my view not minor either. This issue maybe limited to my set only but i doubt it.

I've had the Panny for a few weeks now but it was not used so often. In total i have watched around max 5-6 movies with no Astro on it. On Saturday evening moved the Panny to the main hall and Astro was hooked up. Settings on the Panny is Contrast 46, Color 46, Bright 53, Sharpness, 44, color set to standard and most important of all Side Panel set to HIGH as recomended to deter image retensions.

In total Astro was running for 2 days, each viewing max 4-5 hours, in total not over 20 hours of Astro. I dont see any image retention on the program logos but there seems to be image retention of the channel BOX. When you turn to a different channel you initially will get the channel info on the top of the screen surrounded with the white box. Example when you turn to 401, you will see 401 on the screen and HBO displayed with a square white box surrounding the channel information.

I have noticed a BLACK LINE / Box shape when i turn the Astro off or set to a different AV channel on the Panny which gives me a blank screen but not entirely black. I can see the outline of the horizontal lines of the Astro channel box. This is visible if the room lights are turned down or off. Only the Dark horizontal lines of the Astro white box is visible (not the vertical part that forms the box) .

In actual fact the Channel info box is white but to get white all the 3 colors have to be turned on and due to this i beleive the phosphor has aged more that the rest of the screen, giving the box outline. I am very surprised regarding this because the channel box only appears for like max 2 seconds but when you turn channels alot it is accumilative i guess. This does not show on white backgrounds but rather shows up as a darker outline when the screen is blank.

For Panny PV80HM users you can test this by setting the AV to the astro channel (AV3 if you are using S-Video cable) and turn the Astro decodor off (put to stand by). After 1-2 minutes you will get a grey blank screen without snowy dots. Here you will notice the outline of the Astro channel box.

I have set to TV mode which gives a snowy image and let it show the snowy noise for more that 30 minutes this normally washes away any other retained image but i cant get the black outlines out. Look to me some image retention has occured.

Can some other Panny PV80HM users check this out and let me know if you get the same issue.

Yes me too as specially when it was hyped that the new generation Plasma have non or very minimum screen burn issues. I had talked to a Panny guy before and he stated that to get image retention the image had to be there for like 4-5 days before screen burn actually becomes permanent. I have turned the Astro channel info to OFF in the astro menu. I will observe if things change but i really doubt it. In normal viewing the lines dont show up only when the screen is blank and the lights are very dim. Well lets see, other Panny 42V80HM users please check on your sets.

For Panny the setting is known as "Side Panel" which i have set to High as recomended by the manual. No other settings available except the image will automatic dim if left ideal for like 2-3 minutes...

I would have had around 30 hours off other movie viewing before i hooked up Astro.

The puzzling issue is i would have the Astro channel logos on for longer periods that just the outlined channel Box, there are no image retention issues with the Astro logos but just for that channel box and that only the horizontal lines.

If i am to burn in against this i would need to run a complete white picture for hours. I am just hoping with turning the stupid Astro channel box off it will eventually fade away.

[quote=adrian0229,Sep 16 2008, 10:55 AM]claim warranty le..

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Image retention no warranty lah.

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Added on September 16, 2008, 10:59 am
Maybe you got brightness and contrast set too high. Try going back to default setting.

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Nope my settings are lower than standard, Contrast set to 46, Color 46, Brightness 53...

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Added on September 16, 2008, 11:09 am[quote=kfthoo,Sep 16 2008, 10:49 AM]
hello all sifus, i just recieived my panasonic 42" PV8HM yesterday night from best denki. actually it's a display unit at the megamall road show just ended on sunday. i bought it for rm3399 with hdmi and s-video cable. the unit also come with 5 years warranty.

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I dont think thats cheap, its about the price with no free camera. Maybe can get lower here brand new.

This post has been edited by gsdev: Sep 16 2008, 11:09 AM