I was recently thrilled by Epos speaker with its musicality. Anyone out there have experience on EPOS speakers?

What about epos speakers do u want to know about?

Oh yes.. we audio enthusiasts listen to a lot of speakers when we have the chance. What about the EPOS speakers then?

I did quite a lot of reading on this speakers, good for loud metal and rock music, for good M16 model go here...

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/epos/m16.html

I was looking at Epos M16 although the newer version M16i is already in the market but their price different is huge so would appreciate if anyone had auditioned this speaker

If u read the 6moon review u would know the m16 is already good, ratailing at RM1700++ now, the m16i is RM4000++, honestly there is a difference but not exactly a RM2300++ worth...
If u listen to a lot of vocal and instumental, i would say this speaker can perform but not to the point of perfection, Spendor SP2/3 can do better on its laziest days as far as vocal is concern. The SP2/3 is a very specific speaker cant take to much of anything. Force it and u will hear havoc, But for me metal and rock is where the Epos excels.
Many consider this speaker to be unsuitable and harsh, the bast@rd of hifi speakers, but i like it..

This post has been edited by metalmania: Sep 4 2008, 02:24 PM

Hi metalmania,

Epos M16 retailing at RM1700++? Where can I get this speakers at this price?

I personally feel that Epos M16 needs careful combination. It sounds esp good with creek integrated amp (classic series or above) and a decent CD source...

It was on offer during the KLAV, but sad to say they r out of stock on m16 and offer has ended, the m16i is RM4890,

As for the amping, i think creek is an overstatement, Epos m16i need tons of power to bring it to life, we r talking about speakers campatible from 50-200w, imagine what an integrated 50w-100w can do...unless u r talking about 50w-100w mono block or biamp...yeahh..

U forgot to mention what kind of music u listen to?

I was surprised on M16 sold at RM1700++ during AV show..I was quoted abt RM2.3k during the show...

Btw, I listen to classical, jazz (like norah jones), new age music....

for the amping, I personally tested M16i with Creek A50iR coupled with power amp which has a total of abt 85W pc and it drives the int amp effortlessly and it has great emotional but of course not as detailed and enveloping as destiny considering the price diff is more than 3 times.

hmmm...i think u should try other speakers too before u decide, cos for my ears, the Epos is not the best for jazz and classical, but u do have a point there, alnost all the speaker i tried which sound better, does cost 3 times more

As for the price the actual figure is not clear but im pretty sure it was RM1700++ since the M16i is double++ that of the M16

Now u dont have much choice since only M16i on the market here, thats RM4890..ouch....!!!!

strange, i got the M16 during AV show for RM2750! kena rip-off!! sure or not u can get for rm1700??

now that u mention u got it for RM2750 and nadky was quoted RM2300, im pretty sure...but at least u have it, how is it?

sorry guys..just to clarify, i was quoted 2.73k..2.3k was a typo error...

so junchoo, how's m16?

the M16?? so far was using an old 7.1 100w per channel Yamaha RX-V659 AV amp to drive them... the initial rough and raw edges have been eased off after two weeks. needs ton of power to drive properly, have to bi-amp using the AV to hear anything nice lah... now change back to only single channel (170w @ 4ohms) with tri-wire to the speaker side. bi-amp still nicer, but cannot utilise 7 channels... bass my old Yamaha NS-555 beats M16, but vocal and imaging M16 nicer. M16 "melt" to the surrounding better too.

just snacthed a pair of pre+power amps last nite from a friend but yet to proper set up. will see how tonight lah.

was told no more offer for M16, except the demo units.

cheers,
wps

This post has been edited by junchoon: Sep 4 2008, 04:02 PM

i think we sould raid junchoon's place to have a listen to the epos..heheee

probably we should if junchoon allows

I got M12.2...

I had a friend who was using an EPOS too.. M12.2 I think. Before he was using an Italian made speakers which I can't remember the name.
Yes.. I agree, the vocals and staging were good. He bought brand new.
He loves vocals and listen to mostly jazz..
Just 2 months down the road, he sold off the EPOS and got himself a 20 year old ProAc speakers which was WAY better in every sense.. and cheaper!. And I agree, the ProAc was way better...

Again, hifi is very personal but the advise is,if you can, listen the speakers in the price range before making your final decision.
my 2 sens..

.. typo correction..

This post has been edited by jazzy939: Sep 4 2008, 04:29 PM

i don't mind visitors, but i am in Putra Heights lah.

cheers,
wps

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Added on September 4, 2008, 4:27 pmerr, u mean ProAc???

This post has been edited by junchoon: Sep 4 2008, 04:27 PM

Ooppss.. yup ProAc typo
A ProAc Studio I believe..

jazzy for vocals i think most old highend speakers are masters at this, i mean newer speakers are made from lessons learnt from them, hifi4sale are flooded by these type of speakers suddenly

The m12.2 is said to be the most cun for rock, paired with NAD, but from my observation the m12 lack the bass..sorry bass head here..

This post has been edited by metalmania: Sep 4 2008, 04:32 PM

Very true
But I personally was terribly impressed with the imaging and depth of the ProAc.. You don't even have to sit in the middle to notice the difference. With the M12.2 you got to position yourself proper..

and I agree to that.. quite lacking esp. when compared to my transmission line speakers I am a bass head too!

in that case, if u like proac, check this out, supposingly a better diy design to beat the proac:

http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/TJL_2W.htm

cheers,
wps

Thanks for the link junchoon.
I read it with great interest..
I believe it can give the ProAc a run for the money..

SEAS drivers are well known for their excellent sonic properties, being the OEM for many speaker manufacturers..
Only It is 'affordable' here..

Hello TS, if you are looking for Epos, I would suggest you to pair them with Creek amplifiers. They shd sound good. The other alternative would be Exposure amplifiers. Just give them an audition. However, things are subjective. Maybe you might not prefer the sound but there is no harm giving it a listening. Hope it helps.

To me, Epos makes good speakers but if it is to compare with brands like ProAc, then different story.

Can Epos pair with Arcam amp?
How is Creek / Exposure amp sound? Why its good on Epos?

No idea how it sounds with Arcam. It should sound good with Creek because both companies owned by the same company and they developed the products using the stuffs from both companies.

Well, some people say that Epos debuted in the US using Naim Audio while Exposure's designs were almost similar to Naims. Lots of credits have been given to the compatibility between these companies since. It might only be a 'myth' and that's what people say but I have been using them for 10 yrs now.

My experience with 12.2, limit to my Marantz SR5200 capabilities! At soft to mid level...the speakers sound perfectly smooth and accurate!

But the 12.2 starts to turn harsh when drive at higher volume!

I guess my marantz cant drive this speaker to the loudness that I desired! I planned to test the Epos with my bigger and better spec TXSR875, but sadly the epos was only available for me for limited time!

Anyway, even though I still have unfinished business with this epos speakers testing, I still put the Epos name high on my list as the speakers are one of the best available around 2-3k budget! If the thing on sale, it would be much better!!!

jazzy939,

the TJL2W's actual price is not that more expensive compared with M16, if u get the parts from China or Singapore. there is also kit from Europe as well, the shipping cost to Malaysia is about EU160.

tried the pre+power amps on M16, smoother than having RX-V659 bi-amping. still lack the "in-your-face" bass from NS-555. maybe i was playing too soft?? already -50db, should be loud liao. maybe pre+2Xmonoblock?? that would be too much moola for me to handle lah.

hope i don't need to sell the M16 lah.

cheers,
wps

junchoon 2xmonoblock or biamp should be enough

A little Friday poison The mighty M22i in the middle.

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This post has been edited by metalmania: Sep 5 2008, 01:26 PM

oh really? Will take a note of this. thanx!

Might i suggest for those considering Epos speakers to have a go at AE's, i have listen to both and even though they are both UKs ok ok level speakers they dont have the typical brit sound, both are fast speakers.
I'm currently using AE's book shelf or in my case plastic stool speakers, not the best foundation for speakers, but just for the mean time. I think they are almost the same. I would discribe AEs as just enough to enter audiophile level, nothing campared to Rogers, Harbeth, ProAC.

AE and Epos have a better chance against Usher , by the way loads of speakers for sale on hifi4sale today..check it out

Woww discussions bout EPOS speaker...Actaully i edy long time not hear EPOS speaker but see from some review M16 is quiet good speaker
my experience on EPOS speaker is from 1992 to 1995 which i got EPOS 11 B4 i sold to my fren with very good price

Junchoon if u want to sell i think its like throwing bait in to a tank of hungry sharks, i saw one for sale and it only took a few days to find a buyer.

try Creek Destiny with Epos. current price minimum 7 to 8k.

they did not name it Destiny for no reason.

cheers,
wps

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Added on September 7, 2008, 10:12 pmplease note the "real" cost of diy speaker project is finding a good carpenter to do it for you, some auto audio shop also do them, they are cheaper but workmanship still 50/50 lah. also, this particular TJL2W design specify 25mm MDF board. i could not find in Malaysia. i would have opted for this design if i could find them here. of course can glue two 13mm MDF to approximate 25mm, but i think this is risky. the last quote i have was RM400 to RM500 from carpenter, and about RM200 to RM300 from auto audio shop, both tak ada 25mm MDF board. please note Troels actually use 20mm and 19mm in the test cabinets. both i cannot find as well.

if any of u guys know where to find good carpenter, let me know...

cheers,
wps

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Added on September 7, 2008, 10:15 pmthere is no problem selling, i know that. but please don't expect RM1.7k+ like one of the forummer claim which i believe impossible.

cheers,
wps

This post has been edited by junchoon: Sep 7 2008, 10:20 PM

epos n ae..
i also like both of them, but for me Epos is more powerful when u r listening to rock n blues music.. Epos also very good in vocal..
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my es14 n ae100...

This post has been edited by sham73: Sep 15 2008, 03:27 PM

Planning to sell my M5, where can I sell it and @ what price...

sell to me.. seriously!

I have a pair of Epos 12.2 that is in very good condition. Anyone keen? Am letting it go for RM1,200.

M5 is going for RM1,400 for a new set. Try to sell it via Music and Audio section in the garage sales or you can try hi-fi 4 sale blogspot or The Star's Audiomart section.

I have lost touch on the latest epos nowadays.

Am having a pair, and still working, Epos ES11, got it 2nd hand in early 90's. Its a very vocal speaker, plenty of mid range for very good human vocals. Currently they are paired with a Vintage Marantz Receiver model 2252. Its still exude warm vocal by the marantz, nicely drive out the epos capability.

I have recently auditioned three models of AV Receivers: Denon old AVR (can't remember the model), Marantz AVR and a NAD 754. Well the latest Marantz still share the same old warm midrange, but NAD is a different league. It really brings out the stereo very well. In that test, Denon fair the worst, but its an old amp selling as 2nd hand anyway.

I have not listened to the newer Epos, not sure about the changes throughout the year. But I was told that its no longer the same.

Sorry my comment may not be relevant to what you guys have discussed.

ES11 is a nice pair of speakers, if u have the single wire version with original stands then it is best version available. later they tried to add bi-wire option, but does not sound as nice.

cheers,
wps

Soled and delivered to one happy new owner complete will all original packaging and "virgin" banana plugs

oh no, i miss the boat again <actor of the year award

Post a picture

gREat stuff, beautiful to look at, and beautiful sound as well...

just wondering, wat will happen if i use a sandfill up stands?need to read something about it tonite..

This post has been edited by maxovista: Oct 19 2008, 01:44 AM

Just wondering you guys place the ES11 near to wall or away from wall? Mind sharing, anyone?

Epos loudspeakers work best with their open frame stands which are light yet rigid. Sandfill the stands and they will sound slow and lethargic, the lightening speed and attack (Epos magic) when driven by Naim and Exposure electronics will be sorely missing.

They also need to be placed quite close to the rear wall for bass response and they are not designed as free standing loudspeakers in the first place.

This post has been edited by Y.C.: Oct 19 2008, 07:12 PM

ES11 is best placed from 6 inches to 10 inches from the wall. As mentioned, it comes with its small frame speaker stands.

Some enthusiast placed the bass unit on top, ie. placed the speaker upside down, which 'may' enhanced the listening experience.

Yes. I am using the original thin, light open frame speaker stands for the ES 11. Worried that the bass will be boomy if placing them near the rear walls.

Thanks for the tip...have not filling anything yet inside my stands!(not using the open frame stand)

Do try out the placement of your Epos ES11 to get to the sound you like; if they are placed too near the rear wall, they will sound boomy and you will also lose the soundstage. I had positioned my former ES11/ES12 approximately 18" from the rear wall.

If not mistaken, The Hifi Shop in 1-U is selling the locally made open frame stands.

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Added on October 20, 2008, 8:27 pm
I personally have yet to come across any Epos users placing their speaker cabinets upside down. The metal dome tweeters of Epos do not induce listening fatigue and the appropriate word to describe them is 'sweet sounding'; they should be placed on the same plane as our ears when we sit down in the listening position.



This post has been edited by Y.C.: Oct 20 2008, 08:27 PM

I read from magazines that the tweeter shd be at the level of our ears. I do place my ES11 half a meter away from the rear wall. I am slowly getting the best position out of them in my room. Lotsa experiments to go..

Those were the day when a few of us nuts went crazy to create better sounding EposES11.

We use the original stand, remove the speaker front protective cover to minimise sound muffling, placed it upside down, and last but not least, placed something to raise the front part of the speaker about 1cm higher than the rear, ie, making it to tilt facing upwards a little.

All for the name of improving the sound !

Frankly, none of us can hear anything unusual.

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I got what you meant, those good old days.

However, the protective covers of ES11 and ES12 which are made of plastics must be removed when we play music as sound just could not penetrate through them unlike the newer models of M12.2 and M12i.

There is a review on M12i in the Audiofile; I thought the older M12.2 looks much better.



This post has been edited by Y.C.: Oct 21 2008, 12:54 AM

ES11 in UK came with a protective cover made of netting element if I am not mistaken. Not the plastic cover, although my unit came with plastic cover when I got it. We even removed the netting cover.

Walking down memory lane:
The year was 1994 and my system then was made up of Epos ES11 on their open-frame stands, Audiolab 8000A integrated amp and Marantz CD72IISE cdp on a Mission Isoplat. Cables used were Audio Note AN-C (copper) interconnects, Naim NACA5 speaker cables and XLO PL-1000 (green) powercord for amp.

When the system was fully warmed-up after two hours into each listening session, its sound would melt with midrange sounding so liquid, coherent with very deep bass; it have brought me many hours of listening pleasure from such a down-to-earth system then.

OMG the M12i is so ugly as compare to the older M12.2

yuck!!!

Although Epos belong to Creek now, some of their products are being made in China.

MaxoVista, I miss my Epos!!! How are they doing?

EPOS ES11 is an excellent speaker during its time. I got robbed once and bought it again. I got a chance once to listen it paired to a monstrous Naim set by an tech-freak guy in 1996 in UK. You know what system?

Full fledge CDS with its own power supply/Hi cap, NAC52 with 2 Naim Hi-Cap, 4 NAP250, stacked on a set of Mana Acoustics tables - connected to the EPOS ES11 and interchangably with a floorstander, i can't remember the model, ES25 i think. Damn chun the sound especially rock, vocals and acoustics. Somehow i can't just describe the sound - best rock sound ever heard with the floorstander and not far behind with ES11. Its true that ES11 require perfect partnership. Even my friend owning Pink Triangle De Capo and power supply, Mark Levinson pre-power amps plus KEF reference also jaw dropped listening to rock and acoustic music through Naim EPOS combo, even with ES11 not to mention with ES25. And i have listened to many old school hi-fi during mid 90s

Now the ES11 is already retired for almost 10 years in its box. Once thinking of selling but what the heck, just keeping it for memory sake. Perhaps i'll open it again one day and listen to the glorious sound it can produce

Better take them out of the box and gave them few rounds of 'exercises'..
If storage area has lots of moisture, storing the speakers inside the boxes is not good.

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Added on December 30, 2008, 9:33 pmAnyone know where to find the speaker grille for ES11?

This post has been edited by car_o_scope: Dec 30 2008, 09:33 PM

Hey... how are you man.. just found out that you also having the Menthor Integra Amplifier! Is it still there or long gone?!

Sorry for the late response, this thread been buried and hard to notice..

Still got the epos, beautiful and my setup finally manage to get the bass released after more than 2 months playing it regularly...

I listened to ES14 b4. wow man, the bass is awesome for the size.. mid is silky smooth. The speaker can be played loud without the sound become congested or compress... thumb up

Epos have been around two deecade now yet still undeniable especially when comes to matching with good partnering like Naim....PRAT!

How about others amp?

exposure/creek amplifier is a very good match with Epos speakers

still kumpul duit.... for such amplifier!

Hey epos fans.
I am an onwer of a epos m5, sad to say , its retired aside as i am playing with a 3/5a.
From my experience, epos speakers are power hunger speakers, may it be old or new. Perhaps, longer running in on the speakers will be sufficient to bring out the bass, I am suffering lacking of bass for the first year, after a period of run in i am quite amazed with the bass.

epos...power hungry? may i know which amp are you driving it?Tot that Ls3/5 is even more to drive claim by many too....

Well, i would say that the ls35/a is easier to drive compared to m5, even tried on es11. the first try i was using a unison research simply 2, when i tried the comparing.

Then i changed to another amp, sonic frontier power 1. where i compared again, then i realised that the hi freq is more pleasing to listen to, comparing to low power simply 2.

Well all this is based on what i feel and how i think. as u can see i mainly play with tube amps, i am not sure how it would peform on a solid state.

the epos m5 is very good match with Creek amp. Ls35a is good match with Quad 303 amp.

I've never got the chance to audition m5 on creek, but when i bought it, the seller hooked it up on naim, i was on the decision to get a proacs studio10 or m5, Pro acs has the sound stage, and the lows, i was attracted by the mid highs of the m5, and from the price difference too. I am more to a mid high lover.

wah u compare proac studio 10 with m5, mana boleh bro, price gap more than double the m5 price la...i was surprised u got the m5 instead. usually if u want to buy speaker u have to test with around the same price level. The seller really smart, hook with naim, sure good la.. naim damn bloody expensive, and i guess u wont get the same sound quality when u hook with your own amplifier. btw what the seller hook on the studio 10? M5 is famous for its midrange, but lack the bass. If u want m5 with bass, have to go for m12.2. These 2 models won many many awards but i doubt whether these speakers are really that good or due to marketing gimmick

really ...lah one clever seller hooking Naim with it.Most importantly is that YOU..must be comfortable then the rest is secondary.....enjoy it.

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Added on January 19, 2009, 8:14 pmyup...as far i notice most of times Ls3/5 goes well with tubes like those retro amplifier.I think it is really sweet and seducive...lor
You sure know your stuffs...mate..envy yu lah

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Added on January 19, 2009, 8:18 pmAiyoh...during tis time down turn really turn me away....no appetie for gears lah.....apply for global too.

This post has been edited by Tak-one: Jan 19 2009, 08:18 PM

Any of you know where can get a pair of the grilles for ES11? I only have the non-perforated plastic cover.

Deng,
The 12.2 is a gem. I bought 1 brand new set for my friend back in July and another used set for my own usage about 3 months ago! My used set is 2 years old and only recently I manage to unleash the bass...as my friend who bought brand new(7month ago), he's still in run-in stage as he seldom got time to listen to the speakers!

So the story is... it really took time to get it right! And yes the bigger the amp...the better it sounds!

hey...max soon enuf when yr friend kena the poison...hari hari mau ....listen lor.

hahahah....
supposingly cannot, but then again still i settle for the m5. its 1/2 the price off studio 10. He recommend me other few speakers, JM labs, Wharfadle... nah, i read too much what HI FI. (now i no longer read them)(marketing Gimmick like u say.)..No doubt it sound nice on the naim, not to say all the cables he used are "BOSS" forget what brand already. Summore pass through a Richard gray power conditioner. Strategy... When i reach home i just listen to it for like 15 mins after hooking up then i leave aside for 3 days without powering of to run it. Summore to forget whats the feel of the naim amp. DENG ! I poisoned mysef with my own setup hahaa...

Anyway M5 would be sweet on tubes too. Tried it on quad 303. and Jadis JA15 ( if i din recall wrong) The Quad will potray very lots of mid range there will be slight improvement in mid low. Jadis though its expensive its not my cup of tea, however the female voice to it is simply seductive, but if u change to jazz its just too mellow.

i dont think the equipment are the only culprit when you bring your new speaker home...
Another factor is room acoustic...I spent almost many many weeks just to get the right position for my speaker to perform at its best!

But when i found the ultimate place to put my speaker... my home minister said the speaker kinda to close to the dining table and obstruct people path to that area... arrrrgghhh! Tension tension...

Should I remove the dining table or... find another room to park my hifi??

That is just soo true.. Room acoustic is the most painful part in this journey. but some how i put it as time flies the more run in the equipments are, then you have to reposition your things.

Find a Dedicated room hahha... do acoustic threatment. No one can touch nor disturb your nirvana.

wah 1/2 price of m5? so cheap? btw just double confirm the model is proac studio 110 rite, cos i dun think there's studio 10. The studio 110 is retailing at RM6k wor.. half price is RM3k, i dun think the m5 is Rm3k wor... last time i think i was quoted RM1.5k/1.6k only

if really they offer u Rm3k, u should grab that man.. damn bargain.. even second hand unit also i dun think can get at that price..

ermm, i mean its 1/2 the price of studio 10 ( typo)
Typo again... yep its 110... I was offered at 4.2k if i did not recall wrong. m5 i got it at 1.7k that time. after few months of using the side started to cracked up. i'll seee if i still can find the picture. will post it up tonight.

This post has been edited by Dddrive: Jan 20 2009, 03:32 PM

wah studio 110 for only 4.2k, that's a bargain...btw i heard the m12.2 very hard to drive wor.. what amplifier u using and how many watt? i tried in shop with a 50 watt amp, seem sound not optimize. i think u need at least 70-100watt.. is it?

Mine is Marantz 90Watt RMS into 8Ohm....driving the 12.2! But the bigger the better esp. the BASS...

Hi maxovista, I'm interested in the 12.2 but what you described is that it's quite sensitive to placement... I don't have much choice in terms of room so will it sound bad if placement in not ideal? Thanks

I did used Epos ES11 few months in many years ago.
My experience is; this speaker is not easy to drive it well, you need a quite good amplifier, especially class A amp like Musical Fidelity. The original speaker stand is very importance.
But if every thing get it ready, it sound great, clear, good tension of bass, good vocal too. But just not smooth enough in high frequency sound.
I don't know how's new model, could be difference, because the exiting company almost changed every thing.

Dont take it as negative point as some speakers(other than epos) that I previously owned wont care much of good or bad placements. Why not? coz they are nothing to look forward for..as placement wont change much on speakers' performance.

While Epos on the other hand, can sound precise and accurate if you can find its sweet spot...

Difficult is better rather than not having a potential to excel...

Yeah, but that's the problem. Unless I move house, there's no other way I can put the speakers on stands. They're gonna be on top of the glass top of my TV rack. I can use isolation feet to make adjustment and that's about it. Some toe in and top angle are the only movements left. Max 6 feet apart, up to 5'6" min. AND, 6-8" from back wall. Can't create more space behind or my daughter will have a field day squeezing through the back and start pulling the cables.

Hence, I'm looking for something that sounds good even with the compromises I have now. I read that the Vienna Acoutics Haydn is not so fussy with placements but it cost too much for me to take that risk, even used. 1-1.5k is about the spot I'm willing to spend now. Do you think I should still put it on the 12.2? I'm using a 8000A MarkII, which has been lab tested to push 86W per channel even thought it's only rated at 60W.

Thanks for your advice.

One thing about bookshelf speakers are they cant be placed on bookshelfs.Although their names suggest so!

But for your situation, I think your place is big enough for Hifi ( 6 feet apart)...but not placing the speakers on table laaa..

Coz my TV rack is 6 feet wide. On the left is 1 feet from wall but a 6" shelf for DVD is there so got 6" space. Can't fit stand. On the right is open space next to staircase so... gonna risk getting knocked over.

That will not give you lots of option. I can think of putting the speaker stands in front of the shelf but not sure it is suitable for you.

Put aside the placement issue, how much the 12.2 offered to you???

It's a 7/10 condition unit advertised at 1350. I'm gonna audition it this Sunday. From photo, I can see some scratch marks round the woofer edge so I don't know it it has been removed previously. If no repair done, I will only offer 1150 at most looking at all the marks. Do you think that's fair?

I think yours look beautiful and totally worth the price, even if brabusm didn't lower his 1.2k offer.

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Added on February 20, 2009, 10:18 amIf dedicated room ok lah but living room can't do that.

This post has been edited by RAV4: Feb 20 2009, 10:26 AM

nah.. if u cant remember how the 12.2 look like (without cover)



This post has been edited by maxovista: Feb 21 2009, 11:56 PM

Your unit looks beautiful man! Like new!

hi guys,

just a bit of updates... got a chance to bi-amp + tri-wire my m16, sounds great:







cheers,
wps