jazzy for vocals i think most old highend speakers are masters at this, i mean newer speakers are made from lessons learnt from them, hifi4sale are flooded by these type of speakers suddenly

The m12.2 is said to be the most cun for rock, paired with NAD, but from my observation the m12 lack the bass..sorry bass head here..

This post has been edited by metalmania: Sep 4 2008, 04:32 PM

Very true
But I personally was terribly impressed with the imaging and depth of the ProAc.. You don't even have to sit in the middle to notice the difference. With the M12.2 you got to position yourself proper..

and I agree to that.. quite lacking esp. when compared to my transmission line speakers I am a bass head too!

in that case, if u like proac, check this out, supposingly a better diy design to beat the proac:

http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/TJL_2W.htm

cheers,
wps

Thanks for the link junchoon.
I read it with great interest..
I believe it can give the ProAc a run for the money..

SEAS drivers are well known for their excellent sonic properties, being the OEM for many speaker manufacturers..
Only It is 'affordable' here..

Hello TS, if you are looking for Epos, I would suggest you to pair them with Creek amplifiers. They shd sound good. The other alternative would be Exposure amplifiers. Just give them an audition. However, things are subjective. Maybe you might not prefer the sound but there is no harm giving it a listening. Hope it helps.

To me, Epos makes good speakers but if it is to compare with brands like ProAc, then different story.

Can Epos pair with Arcam amp?
How is Creek / Exposure amp sound? Why its good on Epos?

No idea how it sounds with Arcam. It should sound good with Creek because both companies owned by the same company and they developed the products using the stuffs from both companies.

Well, some people say that Epos debuted in the US using Naim Audio while Exposure's designs were almost similar to Naims. Lots of credits have been given to the compatibility between these companies since. It might only be a 'myth' and that's what people say but I have been using them for 10 yrs now.

My experience with 12.2, limit to my Marantz SR5200 capabilities! At soft to mid level...the speakers sound perfectly smooth and accurate!

But the 12.2 starts to turn harsh when drive at higher volume!

I guess my marantz cant drive this speaker to the loudness that I desired! I planned to test the Epos with my bigger and better spec TXSR875, but sadly the epos was only available for me for limited time!

Anyway, even though I still have unfinished business with this epos speakers testing, I still put the Epos name high on my list as the speakers are one of the best available around 2-3k budget! If the thing on sale, it would be much better!!!

jazzy939,

the TJL2W's actual price is not that more expensive compared with M16, if u get the parts from China or Singapore. there is also kit from Europe as well, the shipping cost to Malaysia is about EU160.

tried the pre+power amps on M16, smoother than having RX-V659 bi-amping. still lack the "in-your-face" bass from NS-555. maybe i was playing too soft?? already -50db, should be loud liao. maybe pre+2Xmonoblock?? that would be too much moola for me to handle lah.

hope i don't need to sell the M16 lah.

cheers,
wps

junchoon 2xmonoblock or biamp should be enough

A little Friday poison The mighty M22i in the middle.

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This post has been edited by metalmania: Sep 5 2008, 01:26 PM

oh really? Will take a note of this. thanx!

Might i suggest for those considering Epos speakers to have a go at AE's, i have listen to both and even though they are both UKs ok ok level speakers they dont have the typical brit sound, both are fast speakers.
I'm currently using AE's book shelf or in my case plastic stool speakers, not the best foundation for speakers, but just for the mean time. I think they are almost the same. I would discribe AEs as just enough to enter audiophile level, nothing campared to Rogers, Harbeth, ProAC.

AE and Epos have a better chance against Usher , by the way loads of speakers for sale on hifi4sale today..check it out

Woww discussions bout EPOS speaker...Actaully i edy long time not hear EPOS speaker but see from some review M16 is quiet good speaker
my experience on EPOS speaker is from 1992 to 1995 which i got EPOS 11 B4 i sold to my fren with very good price

Junchoon if u want to sell i think its like throwing bait in to a tank of hungry sharks, i saw one for sale and it only took a few days to find a buyer.

try Creek Destiny with Epos. current price minimum 7 to 8k.

they did not name it Destiny for no reason.

cheers,
wps

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Added on September 7, 2008, 10:12 pmplease note the "real" cost of diy speaker project is finding a good carpenter to do it for you, some auto audio shop also do them, they are cheaper but workmanship still 50/50 lah. also, this particular TJL2W design specify 25mm MDF board. i could not find in Malaysia. i would have opted for this design if i could find them here. of course can glue two 13mm MDF to approximate 25mm, but i think this is risky. the last quote i have was RM400 to RM500 from carpenter, and about RM200 to RM300 from auto audio shop, both tak ada 25mm MDF board. please note Troels actually use 20mm and 19mm in the test cabinets. both i cannot find as well.

if any of u guys know where to find good carpenter, let me know...

cheers,
wps

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Added on September 7, 2008, 10:15 pmthere is no problem selling, i know that. but please don't expect RM1.7k+ like one of the forummer claim which i believe impossible.

cheers,
wps

This post has been edited by junchoon: Sep 7 2008, 10:20 PM

epos n ae..
i also like both of them, but for me Epos is more powerful when u r listening to rock n blues music.. Epos also very good in vocal..
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my es14 n ae100...

This post has been edited by sham73: Sep 15 2008, 03:27 PM

Planning to sell my M5, where can I sell it and @ what price...

sell to me.. seriously!

I have a pair of Epos 12.2 that is in very good condition. Anyone keen? Am letting it go for RM1,200.

M5 is going for RM1,400 for a new set. Try to sell it via Music and Audio section in the garage sales or you can try hi-fi 4 sale blogspot or The Star's Audiomart section.