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goldfries
post Sep 3 2008, 01:50 PM

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wah nice. actually got plenty of resources on PageRank.

CHECKING PR
if you're using Firefox browser, you can use the extension called SearchStatus.

or if you prefer the tedious way of using website, can try
http://checkpagerank.ws/
http://www.livepr.info/ <-- i like this one
http://www.prcheckingtool.com/ <-- love this one. checks many google datacenter!

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post Sep 3 2008, 02:44 PM

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i think this thread deserves to be pinned.
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post Sep 21 2008, 01:18 AM

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http://www.livepr.info/

this one better.
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post Oct 2 2008, 01:26 AM

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sometimes have problem. usually don't LivePR can check PR for your internal pages. smile.gif anyway i'm going to update my earlier post.
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post Oct 5 2008, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(wussadotcom @ Oct 5 2008, 10:19 AM)
Well a higher PR normally indicates ur site has a good content .....


i would say higher PR normally just indicates your site is popular, not necessarily good content.

it could be crappy content but just entertaining. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(wussadotcom @ Oct 5 2008, 10:19 AM)
....and tends to have a higher location in Google. We call that location as Search Engine Ranking Position @ SERP.
Another useful site you can use to check ur SERp is serprank.com


from my observation so far, PageRank is just part of Google's really complex algorithm.

having higher PR doesn't give you higher ranking.

for example, search "pc buying guide" on google.com.my and you see goldfries's PR3 page rank above Cnet's PR6 page.

so clearly PR is not something that makes you rank higher.

see, that's common misconception IMO. No one knows PageRank better than the founder, Google being the founder knows that PR is just a matter of link votes, totally nothing to do with quality content or whether it is an indicator of the result is relevant to the search.

QUOTE(wussadotcom @ Oct 5 2008, 10:19 AM)
emm..Should I start a thread listing the best SEO tools or what rclxub.gif


that would be in SEO thread.
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post Oct 14 2008, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(AtelierGal @ Oct 14 2008, 01:15 PM)
Someone told me that it ranks my blog according to word searches. idk sweat.gif
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that someone and you, need to read 1st page. smile.gif

QUOTE(yumyum77 @ Oct 14 2008, 01:23 PM)
This Google PR is such a mystery, my index page is PR0, but alot of my other pages are PR1 - PR2. And most of my visitors are at least 90% from search engines.
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why not? index page is not related to other pages.

other pages rank just as high as my index page.
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post Nov 7 2008, 06:42 PM

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depends la. Google updates the PR like every quarter or so. I think the next on is in December.
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post Dec 14 2008, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(hullabaloo_bard @ Dec 13 2008, 09:56 PM)
I think sometimes we are too obsessed about page rank untill the extent we forget the main objective of having blog -  good content.
Most of the ways of improving page rank does not directly contribute in having content.

Darren Rowse - Forget about Page Rank and Build a Great Blog[/size][/color]
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hullabaloo_bard - it's interesting that you wrote about Page Rank part but you fail to see that the words PAGE and RANK must always be toghether, it's PageRank.

and secondly, that's pretty much like hijacking Darren's video and using it as if it's your own content. smile.gif try writing some stuff in it, at least share your own thoughts or opinion in there.
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post Dec 14 2008, 12:29 AM

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well you could link it to youtube directly, or use the youtube feature available on the board.

right now it looks like you're just forcing people to visit your page to view the video. more like a not-so-sincere sharing.
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post Jan 17 2009, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(li_ping @ Jan 14 2009, 06:46 PM)
I'm wondering why ppl need to put the links in their blog as nofollow or else Google Page Ranking will drop?
you guys got it wrong.

in some cases where you're selling links, then GOOGLE will penalize you with PR drop because essentially people are paying you to contribute to their PR.

for normal links, have it to FOLLOW also nmind.

case in point, you can look at my site - all comments are given a FOLLOW link. so if you comment on my article, and if the article get PR3 some day - you're site will get the boost.

if i set to NOFOLLOW, then no matter how your site won't get the boost.

does this explanation help?
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post Jan 24 2009, 02:56 PM

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you have good content dude! one of the best among the forummers here.

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post Mar 7 2009, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(cassplayer @ Mar 7 2009, 01:03 PM)
higher traffic - more people link - somehow here and there it will relate to your PR and help boost ur PR
again PR is about links. you have traffic, means more people. and more chances of people liking your site and linking to it and that it's it. it's the link that contributes to PR.

if we go by that flawed logic
1. internet connection contributes to PR
2. web browser contributes to PR
3. people give birth to kids and teach them how to use internet also contributes to PR
4. without electricity, people can't visit your site and link to it.
5. without having a website, they can't give you a linkback.

blablablbala.....

smile.gif in short, PR was never about traffic. PR has always been about link.

so please, let's educate people properly about PR. traffic and PR were never related.

again - have a read at http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/06/05...-know-about-it/

such well-known site also never state such nonsense thing about INDIRECT relation. because to state 1 indirect relation then we have SO MANY other indirect relations.

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post Jun 16 2009, 02:42 AM

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yeah. sad.gif unfortunately i also don't have any that does the complete job. i found one the other day but it's limited.

QUOTE(vckloong @ May 20 2009, 11:18 AM)
If you guys wanna know about PageRank instantly, just download the PageRank toolbar from toolbar.google.com.
i prefer SearchStatus extension on Firefox.

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post Oct 31 2009, 12:50 AM

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ahh pagerank, pointless numbers that make site owners go happy. brows.gif
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post Dec 16 2009, 03:16 PM

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Pagerank, get for fun only. E-penis for the most part.

high pagerank in the past is to sell ads and links, now high pagerank sell stuff also Google penalize.

so end up put there look nice only. the general public couldn't care about your pagerank or alexa rank or technorati rank or whatever - they just want your content.

pagerank does have a role in Google's SERP but it's just 1 out of the soooooooo many other more important factors.
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post Dec 17 2009, 05:53 PM

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1. show off to who? only the other people who treats Google Pagerank like E-penis would appreciate it. others who don't know what it is, it's just a number that doesn't contribute to their visit. smile.gif

2. alexa also another E-penis.

in the end, most important figure is # of visitors and # of pageviews. nuff said. smile.gif
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post Dec 17 2009, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Dec 17 2009, 06:00 PM)
If you say # of visitors and # of pageviews are more important, then Alexa is the one you should look into coz the ranking is based on "average daily visitors & pageviews over past 3 months".
sweat.gif man, seriously .......... do you know that Alexa ranking super uberly flawed?

have a read at

http://www.alexa.com/help/viewtopic.php?f=...4939326ac88a058

http://www.alexa.com/help/viewtopic.php?f=...4939326ac88a058

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Alexa's traffic rankings are based on the usage patterns of Alexa Toolbar users and data collected from other, diverse sources over a rolling 3 month period. A site's ranking is based on a combined measure of reach and pageviews. Reach is determined by the number of unique Alexa users who visit a site on a given day. Pageviews are the total number of Alexa user URL requests for a site. However, multiple requests for the same URL on the same day by the same user are counted as a single pageview. The site with the highest combination of users and pageviews is ranked #1.


it's totally flawed la.

as long as your Alexa ranking is not below 100,000 you can forget about it.........

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Sites with relatively low measured traffic will not be accurately ranked by Alexa. Our data comes from many various sources, including our Alexa users; however, we do not receive enough data from these sources to make rankings beyond 100,000 statistically meaningful. (However, on the flip side of that, the closer a site gets to #1, the more reliable its rank.) This means that, for example, the difference in traffic between a site ranked 1,000,000 and a site ranked 2,000,000 has low statistical significance. Sites ranked 100,000+ may be subject to large ranking swings due to the scarcity of data for those sites.


Alexa will never replace it unless they create something to install on the site.

when i talk about daily visitors and page views - i mean Google Analytics kind of tracking, no matter how new or little traffic, the data is as accurate as the script tracks.


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post Dec 24 2009, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Dec 21 2009, 11:22 PM)
I see...my alexa ranking is 166,856 as at today, so it means if it can improve to below 100K then it has "weighs", right?
better accuracy only, still inaccurate.


 

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