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post Sep 3 2008, 01:46 PM, updated 18y ago

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Something cool to read if you have time (you should coz it's damn long) and interested of knowing how Pagerank works. Or what the heck is it..

Point that thingy here and clicky
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post Sep 3 2008, 01:50 PM

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wah nice. actually got plenty of resources on PageRank.

CHECKING PR
if you're using Firefox browser, you can use the extension called SearchStatus.

or if you prefer the tedious way of using website, can try
http://checkpagerank.ws/
http://www.livepr.info/ <-- i like this one
http://www.prcheckingtool.com/ <-- love this one. checks many google datacenter!

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post Sep 3 2008, 02:43 PM

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I couldn't understand 90% of it because uhmm...i hate Maths.. But I am here to server the community biggrin.gif
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post Sep 3 2008, 02:44 PM

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i think this thread deserves to be pinned.
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post Sep 3 2008, 02:46 PM

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Good god.. Nobody ever pinned my posts since the 80s.... Thank you, Goldfries.
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http://imfrostfox.com/2008/07/22/counting-your-page-rank/

one of my X-admins posted this
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post Sep 4 2008, 04:50 PM

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thanks man, it is very well explained. So far what i do with page rank is get few strong and quality backlink which related to your niche, and wait for the page rank update.
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post Sep 20 2008, 11:47 PM

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If you want to check you page rank you can use this tool
Check Page Rank
It can also check if your domain is a fake PR or not.
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post Sep 21 2008, 01:18 AM

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http://www.livepr.info/

this one better.
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post Sep 21 2008, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 21 2008, 01:18 AM)
http://www.livepr.info/

this one better.
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Em..Livepr doesn't have fake page rank checker. blink.gif
If I were to sell a fake PR6 here on LYN using livepr would be not practical. Plus you cannot link the result directly. You will need to visit livepr and enter whereas CPR has an option of linking th result example this.
Not to mention I can't seem to get the result from livepr hmm.gif

Anyone having problem with livepr.info to check your domain? whistling.gif

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post Oct 2 2008, 01:26 AM

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sometimes have problem. usually don't LivePR can check PR for your internal pages. smile.gif anyway i'm going to update my earlier post.
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post Oct 3 2008, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 2 2008, 01:26 AM)
sometimes have problem. usually don't LivePR can check PR for your internal pages. smile.gif anyway i'm going to update my earlier post.
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Anyway I like your new sites. Lets Go Lah rclxm9.gif
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Cool notworthy.gif

Anyway I like your new sites. Lets Go  Lah rclxm9.gif
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high page rank means higher location in relevancy of google search? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Oct 4 2008, 12:07 AM)
It's must go lah.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(aindejeje @ Oct 4 2008, 11:37 AM)
high page rank means higher location in relevancy of google search? rclxub.gif
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Well a higher PR normally indicates ur site has a good content and tends to have a higher location in Google.
We call that location as Search Engine Ranking Position @ SERP.
Another useful site you can use to check ur SERp is serprank.com

So thats 2 nice and useful website

http://checkpagerank.ws ~ check your Valid PR with other details like Alexa Rank, backlinks and age.
http://serprank.com ~ check ur site position SERP in Google,Yahoo and many other SE(search engine)

emm..Should I start a thread listing the best SEO tools or what rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(wussadotcom @ Oct 5 2008, 10:19 AM)
Well a higher PR normally indicates ur site has a good content .....


i would say higher PR normally just indicates your site is popular, not necessarily good content.

it could be crappy content but just entertaining. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(wussadotcom @ Oct 5 2008, 10:19 AM)
....and tends to have a higher location in Google. We call that location as Search Engine Ranking Position @ SERP.
Another useful site you can use to check ur SERp is serprank.com


from my observation so far, PageRank is just part of Google's really complex algorithm.

having higher PR doesn't give you higher ranking.

for example, search "pc buying guide" on google.com.my and you see goldfries's PR3 page rank above Cnet's PR6 page.

so clearly PR is not something that makes you rank higher.

see, that's common misconception IMO. No one knows PageRank better than the founder, Google being the founder knows that PR is just a matter of link votes, totally nothing to do with quality content or whether it is an indicator of the result is relevant to the search.

QUOTE(wussadotcom @ Oct 5 2008, 10:19 AM)
emm..Should I start a thread listing the best SEO tools or what rclxub.gif


that would be in SEO thread.
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PR is indeed complex. Try same keyword on MSN, Yahoo and Google, they will return different result.

Yahoo and MSN wont return me my blog when I put in some common keyword "Ubuntu 8.10 Coming Soon"

http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&q=Ub....10+Coming+Soon

But Google miraculously return the relevant result even tho I posted that entry 6 hours ago...

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you mgiht have been lucky, they usually crawl pages every week, for some people every few days.
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Pagerank is simply a general indicator of how many links and the quality of those links.

No it doesn't mean you'll rank higher than ALL keywords. It does take into account a lot of things like keyword density, anchor text of the incoming link etc, and while it does not judge the quality of your content, GOogle will try to interprete what your page is about to determine relevancy, and through a complex algorithm, come up with the search result.

So while it is not all encompassing across keywords - it is a very good general indicator on where your page will end up in a search result -all things being equal
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QUOTE(djzen @ Oct 6 2008, 01:35 PM)
you mgiht have been lucky, they usually crawl pages every week, for some people every few days.
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Someone told me that it ranks my blog according to word searches. idk sweat.gif
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This Google PR is such a mystery, my index page is PR0, but alot of my other pages are PR1 - PR2. And most of my visitors are at least 90% from search engines.

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QUOTE(AtelierGal @ Oct 14 2008, 01:15 PM)
Someone told me that it ranks my blog according to word searches. idk sweat.gif
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that someone and you, need to read 1st page. smile.gif

QUOTE(yumyum77 @ Oct 14 2008, 01:23 PM)
This Google PR is such a mystery, my index page is PR0, but alot of my other pages are PR1 - PR2. And most of my visitors are at least 90% from search engines.
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why not? index page is not related to other pages.

other pages rank just as high as my index page.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 14 2008, 06:49 PM)
that someone and you, need to read 1st page. smile.gif
why not? index page is not related to other pages.

other pages rank just as high as my index page.
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Hi goldfries smile.gif . My bad for not reading the first post. I think I understand a little after reading that article tongue.gif
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cry.gif My PageRank on JayceOoi.com just dropped from PR4 to PR3. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(JayceOoi @ Oct 15 2008, 10:11 PM)
cry.gif My PageRank on JayceOoi.com just dropped from PR4 to PR3.  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Yes me too experience it.
The PR is swing from here and there whenever google update it PR.
Just keep writing content and you'll don't worry about PR
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Normally how long does a site need to wait to get assigned PR?
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depends la. Google updates the PR like every quarter or so. I think the next on is in December.
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lol..hope i can get back my PR on that time..
I havent get back my PR yet..1 month plus already..=.="
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post Nov 8 2008, 12:30 PM

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well my blog..
a long time ago got pr4 then by some coincidence went down to pr 3..
shit..thing happens..
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post Nov 8 2008, 01:37 PM

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i got no PR
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sad.gif same here... hope to get it soon
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Just keep on blogging..when the time Google update our PR..I'm sure you will get it..=)
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Increase your visitor and backlink to strengthen your PR
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if you got money just buy a link from high traffics site(if the site got high PR is better) that related to your niche.
subscribe with them at least 6 months. then just wait and see on your site pr for the next PR update smile.gif
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wow this is quite new to me... but if i unsubscribed after 6 months or so, my PR will drop back right?
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that is depends,
if your site got decent or interesting content
you will get returning visitor. in this case you might not see a drastic traffic drop when you stop buying links.
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QUOTE(kripkorn @ Nov 10 2008, 02:57 PM)
have u try finding it in oscommerce website, i not sure if there already have translated.
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Need to add this dearly, very cure kawai PR buttons. icon_rolleyes.gif

http://www.pr-checker.net/prdisplay.php thumbup.gif rolleyes.gif
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wow very cute indeed! like it smile.gif
but... wait until i have PR 1st...
now no PR very paiseh la still wanna show ppl =.="
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QUOTE(li_ping @ Nov 11 2008, 12:12 AM)
wow very cute indeed! like it smile.gif
but... wait until i have PR 1st...
now no PR very paiseh la still wanna show ppl =.="
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Chuckle, there is a PR0 I think rclxm9.gif
I got slapped once to PR0 but I still dominate my niche.hmm... rclxub.gif

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Not sure le... cos my blog is quite new.
How only will be slapped to PR0?
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sell text link...serving text link ads..write paid post...all will be slapped by Google to PR0...I served TLA and get slapped to PR0 last month..but still I got into top 10 of my niche..=)
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QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Nov 11 2008, 07:38 PM)
sell text link...serving text link ads..write paid post...all will be slapped by Google to PR0...I served TLA and get slapped to PR0 last month..but still I got into top 10 of my niche..=)
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Correct. However I was just making a post about my website and I am sure Google thought I wa pais. cry.gif
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i think google will update the pagerank in the December
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QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Nov 11 2008, 07:38 PM)
sell text link...serving text link ads..write paid post...all will be slapped by Google to PR0...I served TLA and get slapped to PR0 last month..but still I got into top 10 of my niche..=)
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Serving text link ads... does dat include adsense and nuffnang?
others I din do wor
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QUOTE(wussadotcom @ Nov 11 2008, 08:07 PM)
Correct. However I was just making a post about my website and I am sure Google thought I wa pais.  cry.gif
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Hmm..I dont think Google slapped your PR because of that post..do you do any other naughty action? brows.gif


Added on November 12, 2008, 12:37 am
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Serving text link ads... does dat include adsense and nuffnang?
others I din do wor
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Nope, Adsense and Nuffnang are okay! thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Nov 12 2008, 12:36 AM)
Hmm..I dont think Google slapped your PR because of that post..do you do any other naughty action?  brows.gif

no, thats all. rclxub.gif  cry.gif





Added on November 12, 2008, 12:37 am

Nope, Adsense and Nuffnang are okay!  thumbup.gif
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yeah,adsense and adverts uses frame. no effect. if you place banners too no effect on ur pr.
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oooo... i'm safe then smile.gif
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QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Nov 11 2008, 07:38 PM)
sell text link...serving text link ads..write paid post...all will be slapped by Google to PR0...I served TLA and get slapped to PR0 last month..but still I got into top 10 of my niche..=)
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Is Kontera ContentLink consider text link ads? tongue.gif
If yes, I think Google slapped my PR4 to PR3 because of this.
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QUOTE(JayceOoi @ Nov 13 2008, 12:43 PM)
Is Kontera ContentLink consider text link ads?  tongue.gif
If yes, I think Google slapped my PR4 to PR3 because of this.
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I don't know how google define PR, but as i know if you put text link ads, google will warn you before ban your google ads account.
I don't think the ads affect your PR ranking.
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QUOTE(JayceOoi @ Nov 13 2008, 12:43 PM)
Is Kontera ContentLink consider text link ads?  tongue.gif
If yes, I think Google slapped my PR4 to PR3 because of this.
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No, I dont think they will affect ur PR and i have never yet found a similar proof or discussion regarding this.
A usefulplugin if ur usng WP, use this kontera plugin http://www.ziddu.com/download/2141376/kontera.rar.html icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(giorgene @ Nov 13 2008, 05:08 PM)
I don't know how google define PR, but as i know if you put text link ads, google will warn you before ban your google ads account.
I don't think the ads affect your PR ranking.
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Google hate text link ads. I wonder why... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(JayceOoi @ Nov 13 2008, 12:43 PM)
Is Kontera ContentLink consider text link ads?  tongue.gif
If yes, I think Google slapped my PR4 to PR3 because of this.
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Erm..I don think so..I think only certain company will cause you lose your PR..such as TLA..I lost my PR because of this haha sweat.gif
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anybody knows where to check pr for internal page?
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I think prchecker.info can do it but its easier with a PR plugin or Google toolbar.
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QUOTE(wussadotcom @ Nov 20 2008, 01:40 PM)
I think prchecker.info can do it but its easier with a PR plugin or Google toolbar.
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I think Google Toolbar is the easiest and user-friendly way to check for PR.
I found few other tools last week but forgot to write down the URL..will check again.
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Firefox is quite good for web development, so the web programmer should very love it. It can train the web programmers become an excellent skills.

SEO is the one in HTML that can make your page ranking become higher.

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I think sometimes we are too obsessed about page rank untill the extent we forget the main objective of having blog - good content.
Most of the ways of improving page rank does not directly contribute in having content.

Finally, although we rank 1st in the search engine result, the visitor will only come and go when there is nothing in our blog.
For me, we should balance up between good content and good page rank.

Darren Rowse ( Author of ProBlogger) has support this in his youtube video. If you are interested, you can click below link

Darren Rowse - Forget about Page Rank and Build a Great Blog

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QUOTE(hullabaloo_bard @ Dec 13 2008, 09:56 PM)
I think sometimes we are too obsessed about page rank untill the extent we forget the main objective of having blog -  good content.
Most of the ways of improving page rank does not directly contribute in having content.

Darren Rowse - Forget about Page Rank and Build a Great Blog[/size][/color]
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hullabaloo_bard - it's interesting that you wrote about Page Rank part but you fail to see that the words PAGE and RANK must always be toghether, it's PageRank.

and secondly, that's pretty much like hijacking Darren's video and using it as if it's your own content. smile.gif try writing some stuff in it, at least share your own thoughts or opinion in there.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 14 2008, 12:07 AM)
hullabaloo_bard - it's interesting that you wrote about Page Rank part but you fail to see that the words PAGE and RANK must always be toghether, it's PageRank.

and secondly, that's pretty much like hijacking Darren's video and using it as if it's your own content. smile.gif try writing some stuff in it, at least share your own thoughts or opinion in there.
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yah.....ok...PAGERANK

bout the video....is it not enough by putting the his name at the title to give the credential. cool2.gif flex.gif
Coz I think that's is the main purpose of youtube right? To share with others..... thumbup.gif

Any other idea? Coz the main reason for that category is for me to share video that I find interesting in yotube ohmy.gif
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well you could link it to youtube directly, or use the youtube feature available on the board.

right now it looks like you're just forcing people to visit your page to view the video. more like a not-so-sincere sharing.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 14 2008, 12:29 AM)
well you could link it to youtube directly, or use the youtube feature available on the board.

right now it looks like you're just forcing people to visit your page to view the video. more like a not-so-sincere sharing.
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What for the youtube provide us the html code for us to share it with othrs and obviously it is more towards blogger right? hehehhe flex.gif

Confused Mode rclxub.gif
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i think the most important way to incraese your pagerank is to get enough backlinking links.

smile.gif just my 2 cents
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yea..backlink is kinda important for PR...your content is important as well... I think link exchange doesn't help much now already...
do you all think so?
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how google rate your content ? by traffic ?
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both my blog reached PR 3 from 0 within 2 months.

i wonder how can i monetize or capitalize on that ?
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QUOTE(jason3c @ Jan 1 2009, 08:12 PM)
both my blog reached PR 3 from 0 within 2 months.

i wonder how can i monetize or capitalize on that ?
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show us your blog and we might look on it.. smile.gif
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i have nuffnang and adsense.

any other way?
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WOW ! thanks , now i know why my site still at 4th page in google while i can get first page in yahoo.

Haiz...how !!

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w00t! i just found out i have a PR3! how about others? laugh.gif
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hei congrats cassplayer for the PR3 ! But when only you settle the blogspot problem and start posting ya? =)
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yea hahaha... i din update my blog 1 month+ edi still get PR3
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I got success to increase my page rank 3 in few months ..but people say that it is far easy to get page rank in blog using blogspot .I dont know how i got page rank 3 .As i exchanged link with different friends with pr 0 1 or 2 submitted my posts in social bookmarking sites .I think that may be the reason which improved my page rank .

Eying for page rank 4 but how i dont know
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I'm wondering why ppl need to put the links in their blog as nofollow or else Google Page Ranking will drop?
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hmm i also dun understand that... but mine i never put any nofollow code
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QUOTE(li_ping @ Jan 14 2009, 06:46 PM)
I'm wondering why ppl need to put the links in their blog as nofollow or else Google Page Ranking will drop?
you guys got it wrong.

in some cases where you're selling links, then GOOGLE will penalize you with PR drop because essentially people are paying you to contribute to their PR.

for normal links, have it to FOLLOW also nmind.

case in point, you can look at my site - all comments are given a FOLLOW link. so if you comment on my article, and if the article get PR3 some day - you're site will get the boost.

if i set to NOFOLLOW, then no matter how your site won't get the boost.

does this explanation help?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 17 2009, 03:04 AM)
you guys got it wrong.

in some cases where you're selling links, then GOOGLE will penalize you with PR drop because essentially people are paying you to contribute to their PR.

for normal links, have it to FOLLOW also nmind.

case in point, you can look at my site - all comments are given a FOLLOW link. so if you comment on my article, and if the article get PR3 some day - you're site will get the boost.

if i set to NOFOLLOW, then no matter how your site won't get the boost.

does this explanation help?
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A tip from me, submit to multiple directories, at least 100-500 of it. Get backlinks from high PR website. If you're using Wordpress, then keep on trackback-ing others.

By the time, I got my blog to PR3 in 3 months. PR4 the next month.

But unfortunately, it drops due selling links. Now mine maintained to PR3 only.
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mine also PR 3.... for my new blog... about 3-4 days d edi PR1
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hello members, im new here... try adding shoutmix and wait for the next update, maybe your website will be in pr2.. i just try it on 2 sites of mine, and it works. biggrin.gif

p/s: my site only have 1 plain html page with no interactive content there. lol.
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hello members, im new here... try adding shoutmix and wait for the next update, maybe your website will be in pr2.. i just try it on 2 sites of mine, and it works. biggrin.gif

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PR 5 here!!! Site almost 1 year old!! No DMOZ or Yahoo Listings..!!! Just pure backlinks!!
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you have good content dude! one of the best among the forummers here.

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One of my blog is PR5, two is PR2. Besides, i have a website which is PR1
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Google penalized Google Japan for buying links, drop from 9 to 5 laugh.gif

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Google penalized Google Japan for buying links, drop from 9 to 5 laugh.gif

http://www.sheeptech.com/google-japan-pagerank-penalty
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Does anyone know when is the next Google PR update? Yeah I know, this question is such a cliche already...
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Does anyone know when is the next Google PR update? Yeah I know, this question is such a cliche already...
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Perhaps it's earlier than that. Recently Google updates PR very often like 1-2months only. The previous updated was December, so I think they will update again shortly.

Do let us know if anyone of you have any changes with your PR. =)
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my http://itblood.blogspot.com still remain PR3 but i wonder why my http://todayfinancialworld.blogspot.com suddenly dropped to PR0. i did nothing wrong on it, just usual blogging, anyone any idea?

could you give me some advise ?
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QUOTE(alfredfx @ Feb 19 2009, 07:32 PM)
my http://itblood.blogspot.com still remain PR3 but i wonder why my http://todayfinancialworld.blogspot.com suddenly dropped to PR0. i did nothing wrong on it, just usual blogging, anyone any idea?

could you give me some advise ?
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I don't get it. How do we identify whether a link is sponsored link or not?
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I don't get it. How do we identify whether a link is sponsored link or not?
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Or make it easy, put all the link at your website as nofollow
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i think gs20 wants to know WHICH link is sponsored link... not how to solve the selling links problem

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i think gs20 wants to know WHICH link is sponsored link... not how to solve the selling links problem

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It is same actually. Those link from paid to review reveiw or sell link is consider sponsor link
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hmm yea, but how do we know which is the sponsored link and which isnt?  hmm.gif
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whatever link that pay you is called sponsor link
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QUOTE(lifeplayer @ Feb 20 2009, 07:00 PM)
Actually you know since sponsor link is those paying you to put the link
whatever link that pay you is called sponsor link
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hmm sorry for letting you misunderstand the question... but i mean the reader of the blog.... how do they know which is sponsor link and which is not... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(lifeplayer @ Feb 20 2009, 07:52 PM)
They dont. However, soetime google can find it out, but i dont know how google find it out
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google has bots crawling on the blog/site... so they can detect it
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If I not pay for the link, then it is fine. However, if it is paid link, then google will penalize it.
Dont really know how google found it is paid or natural link
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Let say we pay a directory to get listed, is it consider sponsor link? Means if our is listed in those directory, we get penalized?
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Let say we pay a directory to get listed, is it consider sponsor link? Means if our is listed in those directory, we get penalized?
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My god, now I know why I got a page rank 0.
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My god, now I know why I got a page rank 0.
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Just want to ask, is anyone here has their Pagerank updated?
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Thank for the website GOLDFRIES... and thanks for the info MAGDALENE2008... good post..love the web...i love the checkpageranks.ws hehehe.. biggrin.gif
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I work in Internet Marketing and I would like to say please do not get hung up on your PageRank (PR). PR is only one of the many ways that Google ranks you in the search engines. Other search engines like Yahoo and MSN Live Search also use backlinks (links from other websites back to yours) as part of their search engine algorithm which is used to rank you.

Yes, it is true that your PR is calculated by the number of back links you have on your website. However, not all backlinks are created equal. For example, if your website is about cars, a backlink from another car website is considered of higher value than a website on handbags.

There are several reasons why PR drops, such as the ads are paid or sponsored links eg Text Link Ads (not to be confused with Google AdSense, Nuffnang, etc), or being affected by the "Google Slap".

The reason why Google is moving more towards other search engine algorithms such as TrustRank is because people abused the system by spamming. TrustRank is all about separating the good websites from spam websites.
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Will it hurt the page rank if we get listed at portal such as infopages or superpages?
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High page rank means better crawling, and deeper.

Also, may mean that sometimes you get better ranking.

But right now, Google has dropped the PR for many sites, or lowered them.

2 years ago, it was very easy to get high PR.

Not anymore.

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QUOTE(Xepz @ Mar 4 2009, 11:19 PM)
High page rank means better crawling, and deeper.

Also, may mean that sometimes you get better ranking.

But right now, Google has dropped the PR for many sites, or lowered them.

2 years ago, it was very easy to get high PR.

Not anymore.
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QUOTE(Xepz @ Mar 4 2009, 11:19 PM)
High page rank means better crawling, and deeper.

Also, may mean that sometimes you get better ranking.

But right now, Google has dropped the PR for many sites, or lowered them.

2 years ago, it was very easy to get high PR.

Not anymore.
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yup!
many of my site also got PR dropped although traffic and alexa has risen for few of them.
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yup!
many of my site also got PR dropped although traffic and alexa has risen for few of them.
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traffic have no relation with PR
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I agree with lifeplayer, traffic has no relation with PR. PR started being seen as not so important (as told by Matt Cutts, the Google Quality Control guy) about 2 years ago which is why some of you may have seen a decrease.

Once again, I want to put emphasis that your Google PR is not the only method of calculating your ranking on the search engines. Right now, I would say Google PR is a really a minor issue. Things like TrustRank (which I think I mentioned before in this thread) are increasingly important.

Concentrate on having better quality content instead of how many links are going back to you. Think about it - if people like your website, they are more likely to link back to you than if your website is awful.
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QUOTE(lifeplayer @ Mar 5 2009, 01:24 PM)
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you know when your site got traffic.. ppl intend to bookmark(browser or socialbookmak site) your site.. and many of them also might add your site to their blogroll..
I know because I behave like that and some of mysite also being treated like that smile.gif

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well if they add you to their blog roll they are backlinking to you... of course your site has to have traffic - they won't select a random blog like www.xyzksdfjad.blog.com to their blog roll... you would only link back to a blog that you enjoy reading that has quality content

i believe what lifeplayer is talking about is that PR is not increased only by the amount of traffic you have. if all links remain the same 1 year from now, the only increase in PR you may get is if the websites linking back to you also increase in their PR
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PR 1-3 is considered so-so only.... maybe some people love to compare their sites with PR....

so they strive to get the highest PR.
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actually traffic does have relation with PR, but its rather indirect..
you know when your site got traffic.. ppl intend to bookmark(browser or socialbookmak site) your site.. and many of them also might add your site to their blogroll..
I know because I behave like that and some of mysite also being treated like that smile.gif
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PR not related with traffic at all.
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QUOTE(lifeplayer @ Mar 6 2009, 11:47 PM)
PR not related with traffic at all.
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actually... it does have... but not direct relation...

in somewhat traffic will help boost PR...

higher traffic - more people link - somehow here and there it will relate to your PR and help boost ur PR
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QUOTE(cassplayer @ Mar 7 2009, 01:03 PM)
higher traffic - more people link - somehow here and there it will relate to your PR and help boost ur PR
again PR is about links. you have traffic, means more people. and more chances of people liking your site and linking to it and that it's it. it's the link that contributes to PR.

if we go by that flawed logic
1. internet connection contributes to PR
2. web browser contributes to PR
3. people give birth to kids and teach them how to use internet also contributes to PR
4. without electricity, people can't visit your site and link to it.
5. without having a website, they can't give you a linkback.

blablablbala.....

smile.gif in short, PR was never about traffic. PR has always been about link.

so please, let's educate people properly about PR. traffic and PR were never related.

again - have a read at http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/06/05...-know-about-it/

such well-known site also never state such nonsense thing about INDIRECT relation. because to state 1 indirect relation then we have SO MANY other indirect relations.

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actually... it does have... but not direct relation...

in somewhat traffic will help boost PR...

higher traffic - more people link - somehow here and there it will relate to your PR and help boost ur PR
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Check Johnchow.com, one of the most wellknown blogger's blog. It have more than millions visitor per day and it PR was only 3.
My blog is PR4, this is the true
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errr just wondering how to reconfirm on the problem of PR for my site?
my forum until now.. still showing PR is 0 whereby my other blog got at least PR 2 hmmm
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errr just wondering how to reconfirm on the problem of PR for my site?
my forum until now.. still showing PR is 0 whereby my other blog got at least PR 2 hmmm
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Build more quality dofollow backlink will helps to improve your forum PR
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Is there any pagerank update? I saw that ahmike's blog got Pagerank drop from PR3 to PR2. All my blogs still maintain the same, I hope I got some pagerank increase in some of my blogs especially my main blog (PR3), hope to get PR4 haha! smile.gif
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AFAIK... only my alexa rank moving.... from 1.9 mil now go up to 2.445 mil
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your food blog? But I see that you actually stopped update your food blog since last month...=.=
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Is there any pagerank update? I saw that ahmike's blog got Pagerank drop from PR3 to PR2. All my blogs still maintain the same, I hope I got some pagerank increase in some of my blogs especially my main blog (PR3), hope to get PR4 haha! smile.gif
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ooo...great! I hope I got Pagerank increase in my blogs..smile.gif Let's see what's happened..smile.gif
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your food blog? But I see that you actually stopped update your food blog since last month...=.=
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ooo..ok..then you have to start update your blog lo..or else Google will think your blog is dead.
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hopefully google let me maintain PR 3
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ooo..ok..then you have to start update your blog lo..or else Google will think your blog is dead.
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I think it nothing related with the update. the pr basically is related to the dofollow backlink
I have a "dead" blog (never update more than 1 year) which still maintain PR2 for more than half year
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ooo..ok..then you have to start update your blog lo..or else Google will think your blog is dead.
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my webby like years never update but still get crawl by google very frequently.
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QUOTE(lodestar @ Mar 5 2009, 02:38 PM)
I agree with lifeplayer, traffic has no relation with PR. PR started being seen as not so important (as told by Matt Cutts, the Google Quality Control guy) about 2 years ago which is why some of you may have seen a decrease.

Once again, I want to put emphasis that your Google PR is not the only method of calculating your ranking on the search engines. Right now, I would say Google PR is a really a minor issue. Things like TrustRank (which I think I mentioned before in this thread) are increasingly important.

Concentrate on having better quality content instead of how many links are going back to you. Think about it - if people like your website, they are more likely to link back to you than if your website is awful.
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I totally agree with you lodestar. Quality of content is king. I think many often try to concentrate very hard on achieving high pr as the ultimate factor to increasing traffic. End of the day, if you have the traffic, it is only temporary because you will still need good content to keep your readers tuned in. Focus on the content- that's the key.
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i have no idea why my http://todayfinancialworld.blogspot.com drop from PR3 to PR0. I did not subscribe to any funny funny thingy .. so weird .. anyone has any idea about it ?
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QUOTE(alfredfx @ Mar 22 2009, 02:08 PM)
i have no idea why my http://todayfinancialworld.blogspot.com drop from PR3 to PR0. I did not subscribe to any funny funny thingy .. so weird .. anyone has any idea about it ?
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Are you writing paid post or selling text link?
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i have no idea why my http://todayfinancialworld.blogspot.com drop from PR3 to PR0. I did not subscribe to any funny funny thingy .. so weird .. anyone has any idea about it ?
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This is big change, maybe your backlink have been removed but i think you are either selling link or do the paid to blog
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i think alfredfx is selling links.... using adgridworks.... see his sidebar
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nope.... i din not .. maybe is agridworks? i dont know ... do you think it affects ? i will remove it now then


Added on March 24, 2009, 12:08 amby the way, i have agridwork in http://itblood.blogspot.com as well
but it is still maintain as a PR3 blog .. i wonder why


Added on March 24, 2009, 12:10 ami did not write any pay per post thingy

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Eventhrough you remove it, you still need to wait for the next update to see the result
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but his itbloog still maintaining PR3 wor... maybe google bots din detect it?
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PR sucks monkeynuts. No point in putting too much effort in this, unless you want to sell your site (e.g. sedo?). High PR for some reason results into a higher price for a domein/site...for the rest it's major bullocks...not worth the efforts..

Remember, most of the times your main audience does not know what PR is, and do not have google thingy installed to see the rank of a website....
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QUOTE(DikkieD @ Mar 24 2009, 11:51 PM)
PR sucks monkeynuts. No point in putting too much effort in this, unless you want to sell your site (e.g. sedo?). High PR for some reason results into a higher price for a domein/site...for the rest it's major bullocks...not worth the efforts..

Remember, most of the times your main audience does not know what PR is, and do not have google thingy installed to see the rank of a website....
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lol..with my current PR3..I sell a lot ad spot in my blog..advertiser may takes this factor into their consideration in advertising..and PR affect the rate as well..of course..traffic is the main key too..
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lol..with my current PR3..I sell a lot ad spot in my blog..advertiser may takes this factor into their consideration in advertising..and PR affect the rate as well..of course..traffic is the main key too..
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lol..with my current PR3..I sell a lot ad spot in my blog..advertiser may takes this factor into their consideration in advertising..and PR affect the rate as well..of course..traffic is the main key too..
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They contact me via email..smile.gif

Between, anyone has their PR updates? It's almost April..I hope I can gain PR4 in this PR updates..biggrin.gif
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They contact me via email..smile.gif

Between, anyone has their PR updates? It's almost April..I hope I can gain PR4 in this PR updates..biggrin.gif
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lol i used to have PR3... then it raised to PR4 for a few weeks... unfortunately, it got slapped back to PR0 which i don't understand why..
i didnt even do any paid post or text link ads...

so now my question is, how do i gain back my PR4 lol?
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To get back your PR. only one way, keep building dofollow backlink
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Perhaps you gotta send an email to Google, before these, install a no-follow plugin in your blog, tell Google you've done this. But I don't know why you lost your Pagerank even though you don't sell text link or paid post. You have any special ads shown in your blog? Other than Adsense and Nuffnang?
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QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Mar 28 2009, 03:22 PM)
Perhaps you gotta send an email to Google, before these, install a no-follow plugin in your blog, tell Google you've done this. But I don't know why you lost your Pagerank even though you don't sell text link or paid post. You have any special ads shown in your blog? Other than Adsense and Nuffnang?
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mmm nop, only nuffnang & adsense..
wat does no follow plugin does anyway? does it affect my SEO or anything?

is this the plugin ur talking about?
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/nofollow-free/


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To get back your PR. only one way, keep building dofollow backlink
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building dofollow backlink means how? install nofollow plugin? then what else should i do to keep building?
sorry i'm kinda clueless in nofollow dofollow kinda thing lol

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Guys, to maintain your PR, balance out your outgoing links. A site which has more than 20 outgoing links can be consider to have a slow rate of PR updates. Other than that, traffic is the main ingredients to achieve high PR. DO NOT buy traffic!
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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Mar 28 2009, 04:21 PM)
Guys, to maintain your PR, balance out your outgoing links. A site which has more than 20 outgoing links can be consider to have a slow rate of PR updates. Other than that, traffic is the main ingredients to achieve high PR. DO NOT buy traffic!
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so you are saying that, if you have lots of search engine traffic, your page rank will go up? biggrin.gif

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building dofollow backlink means how? install nofollow plugin? then what else should i do to keep building?
sorry i'm kinda clueless in nofollow dofollow kinda thing lol
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Other than that, traffic is the main ingredients to achieve high PR.
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If traffics affect PR..then why John Chow has only PR3 ? lol..
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QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Mar 28 2009, 08:45 PM)
If traffics affect PR..then why John Chow has only PR3 ? lol..
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lol i said that before... kena from goldfries hahaha.... but i did abit trial and error la.... somehow i felt traffic got related... so i said it out hahaha.... or maybe it's just coincidence my traffic more edi then PR higher
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Opps. I mixed up between PR and SERPS.
Sorry, :|

Yes, traffic got less to do with PR, its more about SERPS.
PR is calculated based on the backlinks and the quality of it.
Too much BL might get G's on alert that they might think of the site as link farming.
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lol i said that before... kena from goldfries hahaha.... but i did abit trial and error la.... somehow i felt traffic got related... so i said it out hahaha.... or maybe it's just coincidence my traffic more edi then PR higher
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Go Matt Cutt's blog and read more about it, traffic wouldnt affect the PR
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I thought there was an update, how was your guys PR?
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got meh? My blogs seem maintain only..=.=" Anyone ?
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No any update yet
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Just now I check my PR at checkpr.org..it shows PR2 only..damn..but the Google toolbar still show PR3..==" I want PR4 la..not PR2 la..
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Just check it, one of my website increase from PR0 to PR2...other maintain the same

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got PR3 in a month website creation, seems my link building technique is working! rclxm9.gif oh, and strangely i got an abandoned domain PR increased to PR1 doh.gif

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ah well my page rank is still PR4

not really an auspicious number anyway. doh.gif:

can't figure out why folks are so eager to get it.

now if can get page rank PR8, that would be an auspicious figure. rclxms.gif
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lol..PR8 then you got the ALMOST same value with Google.com d.. Problogger.net also PR7 only la..perhaps PR8 is for authority sites..or Google for other countries..lol

Anyway..bad news for my blog this time..dropped to PR2..but search engine ranking improve..lol... after I've stopped optimize the keyword for make money blogging and make money blog..my blog rank dropped to 2nd, 3rd page or so..then yesterday pop up to First page again..lol..

But still bit disappointed la..I thought I would get PR4 1.. but nvm..next time..smile.gif
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damn still pr0. Anyone know does google give you back PR after you stop selling links?
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Yes..Google does..but you need to do some works..
If you don't mind..check out my previous article about how I get back my PR after penalized by Google..

http://myblog2day.com/2008/12/how-do-i-get...ized-by-google/
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QUOTE(Coconut @ Apr 3 2009, 10:47 AM)
damn still pr0. Anyone know does google give you back PR after you stop selling links?
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how did you get yourself caught by google for selling links?

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Perhaps he have PR2 or PR3 before? and get penalized to PR0 after selling links?

I got PR2 before I served TLA, but after 2months my PR dropped to PR0. After I've taken down TLA, and do the following steps that shown in my post, I get back PR3.
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damn still pr0. Anyone know does google give you back PR after you stop selling links?
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commenting on nofollow blog helps in SERPS too?
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commenting on nofollow blog helps in SERPS too?
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commenting on nofollow blog helps in SERPS too?
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lol i just realized that the page ranks of my sub domains has went up

http://pretty-girls.ahkong.net/ - no PR to PR0

http://play.ahkong.net/ - PRO to PR4

main site seems to be maintaing PR4

http://ahkong.net/

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Apr 3 2009, 10:21 PM)
lol i just realized that the page ranks of my sub domains has went up

http://pretty-girls.ahkong.net/ - no PR to PR0

http://play.ahkong.net/ - PRO to PR4

main site seems to be maintaing PR4

http://ahkong.net/

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my blog's pr drop from 3 to 2
another one from 0 to 2 .....
and got one still maintain 0 ... @@
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yay! last time my PR4 got slapped to PR0....

and now my PR0 raised to PR2 lol....
well at least it raised, i'm sick of seeing PR0 for so many months alrdy ahaha!
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QUOTE(heavenhell90 @ Apr 3 2009, 11:44 PM)
yay! last time my PR4 got slapped to PR0....

and now my PR0 raised to PR2 lol....
well at least it raised, i'm sick of seeing PR0 for so many months alrdy ahaha!
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ya bryan.... hopefully can go back up to pr 4


Added on April 4, 2009, 8:35 amya bryan.... hopefully can go back up to pr 4

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so long nvr check out my PR, shud go see... hu knows can reach 5... XD
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QUOTE(zorex @ Apr 4 2009, 08:30 PM)
o.O

so long nvr check out my PR, shud go see... hu knows can reach 5... XD
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QUOTE(zorex @ Apr 4 2009, 08:30 PM)
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so long nvr check out my PR, shud go see... hu knows can reach 5... XD
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ya. PR5 liao.

how to get PR5 one?

get lots of links? >_<
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hm maybe i will try and ask google to reconsider back my pr, i was getting pr2 before this, after selling links for half year i got slapped with pr0, i remove it after that, waiting for the next update but didnt get my pr back this round.
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I think you have to send them reconsideration letter and tell them what you've done.. I did it and I get back my PR3 in 3months or longer..lol
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QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Apr 7 2009, 01:43 PM)
I think you have to send them reconsideration letter and tell them what you've done.. I did it and I get back my PR3 in 3months or longer..lol
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I send reconsideration letter oso lol and just lyk wat happen to kidkiller i get bak my PR3 smile.gif
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haha my PR still maintain PR3, altho so long never update and etc.
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I send reconsideration letter oso lol and just lyk wat happen to kidkiller i get bak my PR3 smile.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 3 2008, 01:50 PM)
wah nice. actually got plenty of resources on PageRank.

CHECKING PR
if you're using Firefox browser, you can use the extension called SearchStatus.

or if you prefer the tedious way of using website, can try
http://checkpagerank.ws/
http://www.livepr.info/ <-- i like this one
http://www.prcheckingtool.com/ <-- love this one. checks many google datacenter!
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QUOTE(djzen @ Oct 6 2008, 01:35 PM)
you mgiht have been lucky, they usually crawl pages every week, for some people every few days.
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NICE! tq kentang!
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Of course, many would have known that.

If you want to know whether there is a Google Dance, a process that indicates PageRank update activity across Google servers, you can go to http://www.seochat.com/googledance/

Cheers.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 3 2008, 01:50 PM)
wah nice. actually got plenty of resources on PageRank.

CHECKING PR
if you're using Firefox browser, you can use the extension called SearchStatus.

or if you prefer the tedious way of using website, can try
http://checkpagerank.ws/
http://www.livepr.info/ <-- i like this one
http://www.prcheckingtool.com/ <-- love this one. checks many google datacenter!
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Goldfries, livepr.info is pending delete renewal, do you know any other pr to check internal pages? Also when does the domain drops?
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yeah. sad.gif unfortunately i also don't have any that does the complete job. i found one the other day but it's limited.

QUOTE(vckloong @ May 20 2009, 11:18 AM)
If you guys wanna know about PageRank instantly, just download the PageRank toolbar from toolbar.google.com.
i prefer SearchStatus extension on Firefox.

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i used SearchStatus extension on Firefox.
there is a great plugin
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i used SearchStatus extension on Firefox.
there is a great plugin
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Same here.
Thumbs up for SearchStatus.
Has Alexa ranking and Google PageRank.
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Google PR is just means how important the page in the eye of google spider. It is complicated. But PR doesn't guarantee the traffic. High PR can be low traffic also.

I think other than you have to know how to do on page seo for the page you want to optimize for your keyword and the title of your page, you also need to do some good quality links inbound and outbound to the page. After that, if you always have fresh content out, you can increase your Google PR faster. But google will not give PR to you so fast. Another factor is site age. In my experience, normally about 3-6months you can go to PR 1. Unless you really very hardworking focus building link and adding lots of content, you may be can get PR 1 in less than 1month but it is very rarely. Anyway, i have experience that with more contents and some links, it even go to PR 2 in just 6 months time.

But PR doesn't guarantee you will be first page of the keyword you optimize. That will be different story. PR will help little. To dominate first page of google is different. =).. long story.. haha..just sharing here.

Yeah, one good tool bar for page analysis is search "SEO quake" in google and install for your firefox browser. Then you can easily analysis every sites PR, alexa ranking, link, site indexed, etc.. if you only want to see PR, then just search google addons for PR toolbar to add into your browser. =)

Hope these tips are useful, first time in lowyat! Great experience!
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Now my blog still maintain PR 1 donno when it can going up wink.gif
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Did you try Google's PageRank - Calculator ?

This one

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QUOTE(li_ping @ Jul 28 2009, 11:23 PM)
Same here.
Thumbs up for SearchStatus.
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I don't know why but there has been no increase in page rank of my site nokia bluetooth headset since one year. Google seems to have forgotten my site.
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I don't know why but there has been no increase in page rank of my site nokia bluetooth headset since one year. Google seems to have forgotten my site.
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Your PR not increase/changed because your PR juice is not increase/decrease
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Hi, can please advise by creating the website in the sub-web will it effected the PR?

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http://www.webdesign.hohobiz.com (sub-web)
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Hi, can please advise by creating the website in the sub-web will it effected the PR?

Eg.

http://www.webdesign.hohobiz.com (sub-web)
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Sub-web will never affect the PR. Each page has it own PR
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i saw there are ppl selling services like hight PR backlinks, social bookmarking, linkwheels building.. just not sure how effective are they? any idea?
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i saw there are ppl selling services like hight PR backlinks, social bookmarking, linkwheels building.. just not sure how effective are they? any idea?
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effective if in the same niche. Though not that appreciated by Google laugh.gif
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no need to check also know my PR is still 0 !
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Oct 10 2009, 06:45 PM)
no need to check also know my PR is still 0 !
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pagerank works when there are many links from another websites or webpages that point at you website as many as can. That google algorithms show how it works, you can google it, biggrin.gif
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can use http://urlmetrix.com can determine other stuffs of your blog like backlinks, etc.
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automobile4u2c.blogspot.com has a PR1  icon_rolleyes.gif
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my automobile blog is new & not update everyday, also not many backlink but still can get PR1. My more popular Funky Downtown is older and update daily, many backlinks but still PR0. So, I dun really care PR as long as the blog is popular. But I know PR will help for higher rank in google search results but what to do rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Oct 17 2009, 09:59 AM)
my automobile blog is new & not update everyday, also not many backlink but still can get PR1. My more popular Funky Downtown is older and update daily, many backlinks but still PR0. So, I dun really care PR as long as the blog is popular. But I know PR will help for higher rank in google search results but what to do  rclxub.gif
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i also hairan, actually I concentrate more in my Funky Downtown, there is also a category named "Automobile". But my Auto Blog always got some proposals via email from companies like giving free gift like keychain on their car related souvenirs, advertisement (but tak jadi) & today just received an email to request for "guest post" and they will pay me for "formatting & time".

Looks like I should focus my Auto blog more coz looks like got "potential" and bright future smile.gif

BTW, anybody here has experience in "guest post"? How to charge them? Any idea or recommendation? I just replied them & asked for details and proposal for payment.

What should I take note give I offer "Guest Post"?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Oct 17 2009, 06:50 PM)
i also hairan, actually I concentrate more in my Funky Downtown, there is also a category named "Automobile". But my Auto Blog always got some proposals via email from companies like giving free gift like keychain on their car related souvenirs, advertisement (but tak jadi) & today just received an email to request for "guest post" and they will pay me for "formatting & time".

Looks like I should focus my Auto blog more coz looks like got "potential" and bright future smile.gif

BTW, anybody here has experience in "guest post"? How to charge them? Any idea or recommendation? I just replied them & asked for details and proposal for payment.

What should I take note give I offer "Guest Post"?

Thanks.
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Ya, ya...auto blogs have more potential than other categories because not a lot of blogs are available in that category. I myself is looking for auto blogs to advertise or better for sale(can reach USD400 plus plus) if your PR is high. About the guest post, if you want, charge higher la...if they don't accept only you lower it lor... HEHEE
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Ya, ya...auto blogs have more potential than other categories because not a lot of blogs are available in that category. I myself is looking for auto blogs to advertise or better for sale(can reach USD400 plus plus) if your PR is high. About the guest post, if you want, charge higher la...if they don't accept only you lower it lor... HEHEE
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charge higher is how much ah? based on your experience, can u suggest me a "reasonable" or "minimum" charges for a guest post? is US$30/post high or low ah? I pai shei to charge high high coz my PR only 1 sweat.gif anyway, no reply from them since i replied them, maybe due to weekend lo, hopefully hear from them 2moro rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Oct 18 2009, 11:14 PM)
charge higher is how much ah? based on your experience, can u suggest me a "reasonable" or "minimum" charges for a guest post? is US$30/post high or low ah? I pai shei to charge high high coz my PR only 1  sweat.gif anyway, no reply from them since i replied them, maybe due to weekend lo, hopefully hear from them 2moro  rclxms.gif
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USD30 maybe a bit too high gua. LOL...try USD25 see. But, if you already email them USD30, mai wait and see lor...maybe if they rich then they accept ler...
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i not yet tell them how much. I just answered them I accept their guest post request and asked their proposal for payment and also allowed post which dun violate any law & not attacking individual and company only.

so, if they dun tell me a price & ask me how much i want, i will say $25/post. actually it's good to have guest post coz i oso no need to write so much, ppl write for me & pay me some more smile.gif sometimes i think back i shouldn't charge them, i shld pay them smile.gif
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I have PR 4...but I don't think PR is really reliable though. smile.gif
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QUOTE(tekkaus @ Oct 27 2009, 08:22 PM)
I have PR 4...but I don't think PR is really reliable though. smile.gif
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I have PR 4...but I don't think PR is really reliable though. smile.gif
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i admire u la, my target is to get PR3. but very funny, my bro in law create a blog using WP 2 months ago, but he "copy & paste" my posts & from other sites to his blog but still got PR2, i dunno how PR works coz my understand that ori contents is one of the main criteria for PR, am i right?
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Oct 27 2009, 09:42 PM)
i admire u la, my target is to get PR3. but very funny, my bro in law create a blog using WP 2 months ago, but he "copy & paste" my posts & from other sites to his blog but still got PR2, i dunno how PR works coz my understand that ori contents is one of the main criteria for PR, am i right?
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PR is just direct related to the backlink. As long as you get enough PR juice from the backlink, then your PR will increase
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PR is just direct related to the backlink. As long as you get enough PR juice from the backlink, then your PR will increase
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but his blog is 2 months old, i check his backlink but i dun see any results, weird blink.gif in fact i jealous him la, i wrote my blog but he just copy and paste from my posts, i 1 2 make noise oso pai shei coz he is my bro in law vmad.gif
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Ok, Pagerank update just happened last night. Just thought I would add that info.
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QUOTE(wussadotcom @ Oct 30 2009, 09:35 PM)
Ok, Pagerank update just happened last night. Just thought I would add that info.
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Ok, Pagerank update just happened last night. Just thought I would add that info.
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after reading your reply, i checked my blogs' PR, u guess what? my Funky Downtown PR was increased from PR0 to PR2! I know it means nothing but just an encouragement to me smile.gif
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Oct 31 2009, 01:08 PM)
after reading your reply, i checked my blogs' PR, u guess what? my Funky Downtown PR was increased from PR0 to PR2! I know it means nothing but just an encouragement to me smile.gif
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Good for you. Now I guess you don't want the PR system to go away hmm.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wussadotcom @ Oct 31 2009, 02:48 PM)
Good for you. Now I guess you don't want the PR system to go away  hmm.gif  laugh.gif
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no one wants it to go away..it would be a waste if it does disappear. it is important for internet marketing people like me.
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Good for you. Now I guess you don't want the PR system to go away  hmm.gif  laugh.gif
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I dunno whether PR can help to drive more traffic to my blog. If it does, I hope it will remain, or else, no problem to remove it smile.gif BTW, I read a post somewhere, it says PR0-2 is Below Ave, PR3-5 is Ave, PR6-7 is Good, PR8-10 is excellent! so, looks like my PR2 is still same level with PR0 - Below Average rclxub.gif


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no one wants it to go away..it would be a waste if it does disappear. it is important for internet marketing people like me.
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why u said it is important for internet marketing? can u share?

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Nov 1 2009, 12:03 AM)
I dunno whether PR can help to drive more traffic to my blog. If it does, I hope it will remain, or else, no problem to remove it smile.gif BTW, I read a post somewhere, it says PR0-2 is Below Ave, PR3-5 is Ave, PR6-7 is Good, PR8-10 is excellent! so, looks like my PR2 is still same level with PR0 - Below Average rclxub.gif
Well thats just what people said. I haven't read any sort of stuffs by the official source Google.
PR2 is still better than PR0. So don't worry biggrin.gif
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ya lo, but if it doesn't help to increase my traffic, PR2 for me is just a number only. Unless ppl 1 2 advertise at my site & requried at least PR2 then I m qualified lo smile.gif
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Nov 1 2009, 12:03 AM)
I dunno whether PR can help to drive more traffic to my blog.
PR dont helps on generating traffic basically. The advertiser require to have certain PR because they need to gain some PR juice from your website
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PR dont helps on generating traffic basically. The advertiser require to have certain PR because they need to gain some PR juice from your website
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Nov 1 2009, 12:03 AM)
I dunno whether PR can help to drive more traffic to my blog. If it does, I hope it will remain, or else, no problem to remove it smile.gif BTW, I read a post somewhere, it says PR0-2 is Below Ave, PR3-5 is Ave, PR6-7 is Good, PR8-10 is excellent! so, looks like my PR2 is still same level with PR0 - Below Average rclxub.gif


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why u said it is important for internet marketing? can u share?
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But you know, it's strange with all these PRs and stuffs, blogspots still have higher PR even when I don't update it often. Backlinks are lesser too
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ya, we need to look at PR first because most of those sites with high PR has higher backlinks and the quality is much better.
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i see. this is why advertisers are looking for high PR sites smile.gif
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Nov 4 2009, 09:53 PM)
i see. this is why advertisers are looking for high PR sites  smile.gif
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That's why la. XD
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remember u gave me an email address of someone, I email the guy to ask him bout online marketing, but no reply from him la!
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Nov 5 2009, 12:05 PM)
remember u gave me an email address of someone, I email the guy to ask him bout online marketing, but no reply from him la!
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aiyak, maybe he doesn't know you, that's why...I gave him a name called mars1069....your email use what name in the sender column?
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aiyak, maybe he doesn't know you, that's why...I gave him a name called mars1069....your email use what name in the sender column?
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I quoated your name also & used Mars as my name in the email. Maybe he thought I'm alien from Mars rclxub.gif Possible to help to check with him? Kamsiah so much notworthy.gif
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I quoated your name also & used Mars as my name in the email. Maybe he thought I'm alien from Mars  rclxub.gif Possible to help to check with him? Kamsiah so much  notworthy.gif
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Yeah, checked with him liao...He should be emailing you any moment from now...
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Yeah, checked with him liao...He should be emailing you any moment from now...
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hey, just got his email. Thanks so much for your help thumbup.gif
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hey, just got his email. Thanks so much for your help  thumbup.gif
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heh, no problem...
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hi,how to check the page rank?and how to get it?list in google dmoz directory can get page rank?
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everyone has google pagerank but its not that important. if you do want to check it there are numerous pagerank checkers... jsut search for it on google search. smile.gif
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yes,i just google and check my page rank,i just get page rank 0,don't know when can get page rank 1 blush.gif
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You need a lot of good backlink to climb the pagerank ladder.

But don't worry if you have zero or 2. Cause sites like Lowyat with huge followings also got page rank of 3/10.
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You need a lot of good backlink to climb the pagerank ladder.

But don't worry if you have zero or 2. Cause sites like Lowyat with huge followings also got page rank of 3/10.
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"i see. this is why advertisers are looking for high PR sites"

I wonder if that is really true? For Malaysian or international advertisers?

I used to be pr2, then I changed my domain and went to pr0 for 4 months, after much work put in, I finally got a pr3. Now working for pr4..... ouch, this is going to take a while I think.


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"i see. this is why advertisers are looking for high PR sites"

I wonder if that is really true? For Malaysian or international advertisers?

I used to be pr2, then I changed my domain and went to pr0 for 4 months, after much work put in, I finally got a pr3. Now working for pr4..... ouch, this is going to take a while I think.
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working hard also depends on whether other like our blogs to get their backlink which is the key factor that deciding PR..
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Just install google toolbar and you will be able to see the PR of the sites you visit. Another good resource is seobook.com

Driving unique visitors (unique IPs) to your site is equally important because this will increase your Alexa ranking. Alexa ranking is as important as PR.

Article marketing can also get your PR up.
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my website still page rank 0 ,who can guild me how to get page rank fast for my site http://www.caronline.my ?

me plan to submit to seo services,but survey all quite expensive.


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Just install google toolbar and you will be able to see the PR of the sites you visit. Another good resource is seobook.com

Driving unique visitors (unique IPs) to your site is equally important because this will increase your Alexa ranking. Alexa ranking is as important as PR.

Article marketing can also get your PR up.
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hi galen seobook is free?and how to submit my website to them to get page rank and how they driving traffic to my site? thanks!

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QUOTE(iloveusms @ Dec 15 2009, 09:15 PM)
my website still page rank 0 ,who can guild me how to get page rank fast for my site http://www.caronline.my ?

me plan to submit to seo services,but survey all quite expensive.


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hi galen seobook is free?and how to submit my website to them to get page rank and how they driving traffic to my site? thanks!
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Just remember PR doesn't get you traffic.

I have done a few client website with PR0 but get top10 listing in Yahoo and Google. PR and SEO are 2 different thing.
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Pagerank, get for fun only. E-penis for the most part.

high pagerank in the past is to sell ads and links, now high pagerank sell stuff also Google penalize.

so end up put there look nice only. the general public couldn't care about your pagerank or alexa rank or technorati rank or whatever - they just want your content.

pagerank does have a role in Google's SERP but it's just 1 out of the soooooooo many other more important factors.
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just feel that blog with high PR looks cool although it dun really bring in much traffic, at least can "show off".

But I think Alexa is based on the traffic, the more traffic you have, the better Alexa ranking u will have, which is more practical.
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1. show off to who? only the other people who treats Google Pagerank like E-penis would appreciate it. others who don't know what it is, it's just a number that doesn't contribute to their visit. smile.gif

2. alexa also another E-penis.

in the end, most important figure is # of visitors and # of pageviews. nuff said. smile.gif
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If you say # of visitors and # of pageviews are more important, then Alexa is the one you should look into coz the ranking is based on "average daily visitors & pageviews over past 3 months".
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Dec 17 2009, 06:00 PM)
If you say # of visitors and # of pageviews are more important, then Alexa is the one you should look into coz the ranking is based on "average daily visitors & pageviews over past 3 months".
sweat.gif man, seriously .......... do you know that Alexa ranking super uberly flawed?

have a read at

http://www.alexa.com/help/viewtopic.php?f=...4939326ac88a058

http://www.alexa.com/help/viewtopic.php?f=...4939326ac88a058

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Alexa's traffic rankings are based on the usage patterns of Alexa Toolbar users and data collected from other, diverse sources over a rolling 3 month period. A site's ranking is based on a combined measure of reach and pageviews. Reach is determined by the number of unique Alexa users who visit a site on a given day. Pageviews are the total number of Alexa user URL requests for a site. However, multiple requests for the same URL on the same day by the same user are counted as a single pageview. The site with the highest combination of users and pageviews is ranked #1.


it's totally flawed la.

as long as your Alexa ranking is not below 100,000 you can forget about it.........

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Sites with relatively low measured traffic will not be accurately ranked by Alexa. Our data comes from many various sources, including our Alexa users; however, we do not receive enough data from these sources to make rankings beyond 100,000 statistically meaningful. (However, on the flip side of that, the closer a site gets to #1, the more reliable its rank.) This means that, for example, the difference in traffic between a site ranked 1,000,000 and a site ranked 2,000,000 has low statistical significance. Sites ranked 100,000+ may be subject to large ranking swings due to the scarcity of data for those sites.


Alexa will never replace it unless they create something to install on the site.

when i talk about daily visitors and page views - i mean Google Analytics kind of tracking, no matter how new or little traffic, the data is as accurate as the script tracks.


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Dude, Alexa can only track site visitors who have the Alexa toolbar installed - how many of us installed that? So it's quite a useless number, except when used to compare the popularity of 2 different websites, i.e. as a relative measurement.

PR used to be important but there's less emphasis nowadays. The PR that you see in the toolbar is not updated - Google has the updated PR internally and use a different scale in ranking websites. You should also look at the relevance of your webpage to the targeted keywords and also geographical location - make use of Google's Webmaster Tool.

Other than that, like someone mentioned above, PR and Alexa is mostly for "shiok sendiri".

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If you say # of visitors and # of pageviews are more important, then Alexa is the one you should look into coz the ranking is based on "average daily visitors & pageviews over past 3 months".
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sweat.gif man, seriously .......... do you know that Alexa ranking super uberly flawed?

have a read at

http://www.alexa.com/help/viewtopic.php?f=...4939326ac88a058

http://www.alexa.com/help/viewtopic.php?f=...4939326ac88a058
it's totally flawed la.

as long as your Alexa ranking is not below 100,000 you can forget about it.........
Alexa will never replace it unless they create something to install on the site.

when i talk about daily visitors and page views - i mean Google Analytics kind of tracking, no matter how new or little traffic, the data is as accurate as the script tracks.
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I see...my alexa ranking is 166,856 as at today, so it means if it can improve to below 100K then it has "weighs", right?
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plz2 help me .I have problem .Why my rank not increase.Rank google N/A.I dont know how to make more visitor come to my blog.Plz help me.I use meta tag but dont get Rank for google.this my blog http://slamberz.blogspot.com/
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QUOTE(zamnrul @ Dec 22 2009, 09:39 AM)
plz2 help me .I have problem .Why my rank not increase.Rank google N/A.I dont know how to make more visitor come to my blog.Plz help me.I use meta tag but dont get Rank for google.this my blog http://slamberz.blogspot.com/
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your blog load a bit slower than usual cause got a lot of javascript flash. don't put in so many of those things. oh, and try not to link to other blogs with low PR. If you must, put it as nofollow links. Try exchanging links with those higher PR one and the ones with the same topic as yours.
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plz2 help me .I have problem .Why my rank not increase.Rank google N/A.I dont know how to make more visitor come to my blog.Plz help me.I use meta tag but dont get Rank for google.this my blog http://slamberz.blogspot.com/
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My blog PR is 0 but most of my keywords are rank top10 is google.com.my and yahoo.com.my

But then again my blog are just for fun..

Don't pay so much attention of PR.

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Top 10 for what keywords?

QUOTE(eXtremeZ @ Dec 22 2009, 02:58 PM)
My blog PR is 0 but most of my keywords are rank top10 is google.com.my and yahoo.com.my
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Top 10 for what keywords?
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Ranked #1 Google founder bmw club and #1 Yahoo! founder bmw club

Ranked #9 Google chester cheng and #1 Yahoo! chester cheng

Other keywords that are ranked highly at Google.com.my and Yahoo.com.my

bmw club, bmw club malaysia, chester, club founder, founder bmw, christian cheng, christine cheng
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QUOTE(eXtremeZ @ Dec 23 2009, 01:44 PM)
Ranked #1 Google founder bmw club and #1 Yahoo! founder bmw club

Ranked #9 Google chester cheng and #1 Yahoo! chester cheng

Other keywords that are ranked highly at Google.com.my and Yahoo.com.my

bmw club, bmw club malaysia, chester, club founder, founder bmw, christian cheng, christine cheng
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I wonder who's Christine Cheng?
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QUOTE(eXtremeZ @ Dec 23 2009, 01:44 PM)
Ranked #1 Google founder bmw club and #1 Yahoo! founder bmw club

Ranked #9 Google chester cheng and #1 Yahoo! chester cheng

Other keywords that are ranked highly at Google.com.my and Yahoo.com.my

bmw club, bmw club malaysia, chester, club founder, founder bmw, christian cheng, christine cheng
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I can imagine people looking for "bmw founder", "bmw owners club" or "bmw fan club", but "bmw founder club"???? Founder is the people who set up a particular company, how come you make a "club" out of it?

Not to mention, your site has nothing to do with bmw club or whatever. It's just a blog with random contents. I don't think you can get high pr with that kind of site.
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I can imagine people looking for "bmw founder", "bmw owners club" or "bmw fan club", but "bmw founder club"???? Founder is the people who set up a particular company, how come you make a "club" out of it?

Not to mention, your site has nothing to do with bmw club or whatever. It's just a blog with random contents. I don't think you can get high pr with that kind of site.
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rclxms.gif yeah, you are right...now that you mention it, I have questions regarding it too.
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Dec 21 2009, 11:22 PM)
I see...my alexa ranking is 166,856 as at today, so it means if it can improve to below 100K then it has "weighs", right?
better accuracy only, still inaccurate.

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how to check the keyword ranking? smile.gif
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how to check the keyword ranking? smile.gif
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Just google for specific keywords and see if your site is ranked on top 10. For example, if I search "endusr3" my blog will be on top of the list. Unless you're a famous person, don't expect people to google your name/nick though.

If you're wondering how many people google for a specific keywords in a month, use this tool: https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
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better accuracy only, still inaccurate.
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QUOTE(endusr3 @ Dec 24 2009, 07:32 AM)
Just google for specific keywords and see if your site is ranked on top 10. For example, if I search "endusr3" my blog will be on top of the list. Unless you're a famous person, don't expect people to google your name/nick though.
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It's true, if ppl search my blog name Funky Downtown, my blog ranks 1st & 2nd, and 8 out of top 10 on first page search results are links to my blog from social bookmarks sites. Unless someone knows my blog name Funky Downtown otherwise the ranking has no meaning at all, just syok sendiri and it's not the keywords for my blog contents as well nod.gif

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I can imagine people looking for "bmw founder", "bmw owners club" or "bmw fan club", but "bmw founder club"???? Founder is the people who set up a particular company, how come you make a "club" out of it?

Not to mention, your site has nothing to do with bmw club or whatever. It's just a blog with random contents. I don't think you can get high pr with that kind of site.
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You must be very young... doh.gif

I founded the BMW Club of Malaysia.. so if that is not call "founder" you tell me... hahahahah go and read the news http://www.chester.my/downloads/CouncilNews_0404_en_2.pdf or if you think I bluf www.bmwclub.ca/IC/CouncilNews/CouncilNews_0404_en.pdf

Christine is my daughter la... try google your own name see if it turn out.. rolleyes.gif

I don't do it for PR.. I just do it for fun... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Dec 24 2009, 07:56 AM)
ok, got it. thanks.


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It's true, if ppl search my blog name Funky Downtown, my blog ranks 1st & 2nd, and 8 out of top 10 on first page search results are links to my blog from social bookmarks sites. Unless someone knows my blog name Funky Downtown otherwise the ranking has no meaning at all, just syok sendiri and it's not the keywords for my blog contents as well  nod.gif
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yeah, if it is too general...like humor, funny, etc., my blog will appear in like 200 pages(Google search) but if you search my name, then it will appear in the first page. According to what I read la, the higher your PR, the higher your blog will be placed in the Result page.
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According to what I read la, the higher your PR, the higher your blog will be placed in the Result page.
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Wrong... I done a lot of SEO for PR=0 websites.. and they are ranked much higher than sites that have higher PR.

About search ranking... My advice is Don't pay any attention of PR. PR if more of siok sendiri only.. brows.gif

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QUOTE(eXtremeZ @ Dec 24 2009, 12:33 PM)
Wrong... I done a lot of SEO for PR=0 websites.. and they are ranked much higher than sites that have higher PR.

About search ranking... My advice is Don't pay any attention of PR. PR if more of siok sendiri only..  brows.gif
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oh heh...then why they can appear at the first few pages one?
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You must be very young...  doh.gif

I founded the BMW Club of Malaysia.. so if that is not call "founder" you tell me... hahahahah go and read the news http://www.chester.my/downloads/CouncilNews_0404_en_2.pdf or if you think I bluf www.bmwclub.ca/IC/CouncilNews/CouncilNews_0404_en.pdf
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Ah, I got it now. But I still doubt if people would ever look for that "bmw club founder" keywords on google.
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QUOTE(endusr3 @ Dec 24 2009, 12:42 PM)
Ah, I got it now. But I still doubt if people would ever look for that "bmw club founder" keywords on google.
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You will be surprise that there are more BMW fans than you think. rclxm9.gif
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You will be surprise that there are more BMW fans than you think.  rclxm9.gif
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I'm not talking about people who search for the "bmw club", I'm talking about people who search for "bmw club founder". Ask yourself this, when is the last time you google for an organization founder? wink.gif
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QUOTE(endusr3 @ Dec 24 2009, 12:57 PM)
I'm not talking about people who search for the "bmw club", I'm talking about people who search for "bmw club founder". Ask yourself this, when is the last time you google for an organization founder? wink.gif
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hehe, when they like that club, they will wanna know about the founder right? Like maybe the founder has an interesting experience of setting up the club. Or maybe he's a playboy with 500 mistresses... tongue.gif just maybe or he is an underprivileged who won a lottery then start thinking of owning 500 BMWs. Just maybe...gotta' be reasons why people look up for this keyword. But, I agree...I don't look up on founders, except you count those school assignments. sweat.gif
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oh heh...then why they can appear at the first few pages one?
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Content is "KING".. here is an example.. go to my blog and right click and view source.. See my title, keywords and description.. Then look at my content and learn how I rewrite to fit my keywords.


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Ah, I got it now. But I still doubt if people would ever look for that "bmw club founder" keywords on google.
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Like I said.. I do for fun laa.. Its easier for my friends or businessman to google me.. Anyway its good for my business. cool.gif

I'm not looking for traffic or make my blog popular.

Besides my blog is less than 2 months old.. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(eXtremeZ @ Dec 23 2009, 01:44 PM)
Ranked #1 Google founder bmw club and #1 Yahoo! founder bmw club

Ranked #9 Google chester cheng and #1 Yahoo! chester cheng

Other keywords that are ranked highly at Google.com.my and Yahoo.com.my

bmw club, bmw club malaysia, chester, club founder, founder bmw, christian cheng, christine cheng
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Well, you are doing a great job but it can be better. Among the keywords listed, only "bmw club" have good search volume.
However, your website only listed at #34 on google search malaysia, also it not being listed at top 100 at google (other country than malaysia)
One high search volume keyword at the top of google is better than 100 low search keyword at top of google
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QUOTE(lifeplayer @ Dec 24 2009, 02:42 PM)
Well, you are doing a great job but it can be better. Among the keywords listed, only "bmw club" have good search volume.
However, your website only listed at #34 on google search malaysia, also it not being listed at top 100 at google (other country than malaysia)
One high search volume keyword at the top of google is better than 100 low search keyword at top of google
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its less than 2 months old... Wait and see for another 6 months. As of yesterday google "bmw club" I was ranked #47 today its #33.. Yahoo I ranked #11.. So you see... its coming up.
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QUOTE(eXtremeZ @ Dec 24 2009, 03:25 PM)
its less than 2 months old... Wait and see for another 6 months. As of yesterday google "bmw club" I was ranked #47 today its #33.. Yahoo I ranked #11.. So you see... its coming up.
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Great to heard the improvement. Aim on the first page or you dont get good traffic
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QUOTE(eXtremeZ @ Dec 24 2009, 03:25 PM)
its less than 2 months old... Wait and see for another 6 months. As of yesterday google "bmw club" I was ranked #47 today its #33.. Yahoo I ranked #11.. So you see... its coming up.
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are u trying to say when your site has more fresh contents then it will improve your search results ranking or when your site is getting older will get better ranking (perhaps with a lot of backlinks)?
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are u trying to say when your site has more fresh contents then it will improve your search results ranking or when your site is getting older will get better ranking (perhaps with a lot of backlinks)?
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Fresh content wouldnt helps on the SERP directly. Each individual page have it's own SERP. Backlink is one of the factor helps on the SERP
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yeah, if it is too general...like humor, funny, etc., my blog will appear in like 200 pages(Google search) but if you search my name, then it will appear in the first page. According to what I read la, the higher your PR, the higher your blog will be placed in the Result page.
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ya, u look like attacking my weak points coz my blog is actually for keywords like "humor", "funny", "strange" and "weird" etc but when I searched these keywords, I dunno where to find my blog in the results hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Dec 24 2009, 04:39 PM)
ya, u look like attacking my weak points coz my blog is actually for keywords like "humor", "funny", "strange" and "weird" etc but when I searched these keywords, I dunno where to find my blog in the results  hmm.gif
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LOL...funny and humor are the keywords for my blog. Chill....no offense here.
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Fresh content wouldnt helps on the SERP directly. Each individual page have it's own SERP. Backlink is one of the factor helps on the SERP
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PR is something to do with backlinks, right? But someone said PR never help on search result ranking? rclxub.gif


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LOL...funny and humor are the keywords for my blog. Chill....no offense here.
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BTW, let say I search for "humor", how to know where is my blog's ranking if I dun want to check page by page coz if it is ranked in page 201,000,000 I have to take leave to check my ranking blink.gif Any short cut?


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Content is "KING".. here is an example.. go to my blog and right click and view source.. See my title, keywords and description.. Then look at my content and learn how I rewrite to fit my keywords.
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Do u mean we should include the keywords of our blog/site in every post contents for better search result ranking?

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are u trying to say when your site has more fresh contents then it will improve your search results ranking or when your site is getting older will get better ranking (perhaps with a lot of backlinks)?
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Both.. and the older the domain the better.


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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Dec 24 2009, 04:44 PM)
PR is something to do with backlinks, right? But someone said PR never help on search result ranking?  rclxub.gif


Added on December 24, 2009, 4:57 pm
BTW, let say I search for "humor", how to know where is my blog's ranking if I dun want to check page by page coz if it is ranked in page 201,000,000 I have to take leave to check my ranking  blink.gif  Any short cut?


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Do u mean we should include the keywords of our blog/site in every post contents for better search result ranking?
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Yes

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BTW, let say I search for "humor", how to know where is my blog's ranking if I dun want to check page by page coz if it is ranked in page 201,000,000 I have to take leave to check my ranking  blink.gif  Any short cut?
got...www.iwebtool.com/search_engine_position thumbup.gif try try see. Or you can search Yahoo for Website's Search Engine Ranking Tool. Good Luck!
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got...www.iwebtool.com/search_engine_position thumbup.gif  try try see. Or you can search Yahoo for Website's Search Engine Ranking Tool. Good Luck!
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thanks for the good site but no luck lah! I searched for funny, humor, funky, my blog is not listed in top 100 in google search, kanasai la, what's the hell to get no. 1 with keyword "Funky Downtown"? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Dec 25 2009, 05:39 PM)
thanks for the good site but no luck lah! I searched for funny, humor, funky, my blog is not listed in top 100 in google search, kanasai la, what's the hell to get no. 1 with keyword "Funky Downtown"?  hmm.gif
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haha, ya la...most of the really good ones dominate edi the top 100. so maybe if you add more stuffs, promote more, then can gua. but if you want to attract more readers hor, stumbleupon.com quite good le. one time can get around 10,000 plus plus depends whether your post is really funny or not and whether it is ori or other sites already got that post.
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The keyword is.. "NEVER GIVE UP!" you can break into top 100 easily with a lot of practice. However breaking into top10 needs a lot of patience.

You want to learn do your own SEO, its not actually rocket science, but when you know the trick, you know.. if you can't wait and want instant result hire SEO experts to do it for you.
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QUOTE(eXtremeZ @ Dec 25 2009, 10:46 PM)
The keyword is.. "NEVER GIVE UP!" you can break into top 100 easily with a lot of practice. However breaking into top10 needs a lot of patience.

You want to learn do your own SEO, its not actually rocket science, but when you know the trick, you know.. if you can't wait and want instant result hire SEO experts to do it for you.
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It depends on the keywords and other criteria...
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My main focus blog is Funky Downtown, contents are more on "funny", "humor", "strange", "cool" etc stuff or news. So it doesn't mean my contents will have such keywords. Eg. A post on "Vietnamese man sleeps with dead wife for 5 years", but none of the keywords appear in the contents. In this case, how to do with SEO? I have another blog called "Holidays in Bali", this one is quite straight forward coz I have few "Bali" in every post. Any advice for me on my Funky Downtown blog's SEO? Thanks... notworthy.gif


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haha, ya la...most of the really good ones dominate edi the top 100. so maybe if you add more stuffs, promote more, then can gua. but if you want to attract more readers hor, stumbleupon.com quite good le. one time can get around 10,000 plus plus depends whether your post is really funny or not and whether it is ori or other sites already got that post.
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PR is something to do with backlinks, right? But someone said PR never help on search result ranking?  rclxub.gif

Yes, PR is depends on the backlink (quality backlink and quantity backlink). PR helps on SERP, but not much, or saying the PR is one of the factor that affect the SERP but not the major factor
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Dec 26 2009, 12:43 AM)
My main focus blog is Funky Downtown, contents are more on "funny", "humor", "strange", "cool" etc stuff or news. So it doesn't mean my contents will have such keywords. Eg. A post on "Vietnamese man sleeps with dead wife for 5 years", but none of the keywords appear in the contents. In this case, how to do with SEO? I have another blog called "Holidays in Bali", this one is quite straight forward coz I have few "Bali" in every post. Any advice for me on my Funky Downtown blog's SEO? Thanks... notworthy.gif


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ya, I have few links from stumble upon but I dunno how it works...I have registered and submitted my blog, do I still need to submit contents every time I publish new posts or they will "auto" link all my new posts?  rclxub.gif
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As I know, no wor. You have to submit post by post yourself. And as you know la, there is the Stumble button and the toolbar. The more people stumble/thumbs up/like your post/site, the more frequently your site will appear in the toolbar/button when people press stumble and your posts will appear in the stumbler's profile page. If they recommend your post to other members, then of course more syiok la.
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As I know, no wor. You have to submit post by post yourself. And as you know la, there is the Stumble button and the toolbar. The more people stumble/thumbs up/like your post/site, the more frequently your site will appear in the toolbar/button when people press stumble and your posts will appear in the stumbler's profile page. If they recommend your post to other members, then of course more syiok la.
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I see. I will try to submit some posts, see what will happen. If someone submitted our post from our blog, can we know?
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I see. I will try to submit some posts, see what will happen. If someone submitted our post from our blog, can we know?
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If you downloaded the toolbar la, when you click on the I Like It! button hor, then the Info button will turns yellow. You can click on that and see la what people review about your posts. If nobody stumble your post yet ler, then one discovery pop up window will appear, then you write la the review of your post. That's as far as I know la. I think hor, if you download the toolbar better la cause it is like more convenient mar. thumbup.gif
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If you downloaded the toolbar la, when you click on the I Like It! button hor, then the Info button will turns yellow. You can click on that and see la what people review about your posts. If nobody stumble your post yet ler, then one discovery pop up window will appear, then you write la the review of your post. That's as far as I know la. I think hor, if you download the toolbar better la cause it is like more convenient mar.  thumbup.gif
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ya lo, i have to download the toolbar and play play, who knows can increase my traffic le? thanks so much ah  rclxms.gif
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i got 2/10 pgrank.haiyo

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hehe, no prob la. we must help each other mar. must make malaysian bloggers phemes. hehe. thumbup.gif
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I have 2 blogs PR2, 1 blog PR1...but PR dun help to bring in more traffic la  blink.gif


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u helped me a lot liao la, kamsiah so much  notworthy.gif
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ya la. it won't bring in more traffic one. have to promote lo. Last time i have one blog PR4 before I sold it, the traffic is the same nia...PR1 or PR4. Just that better only mar have high PR. Hidden advantages. LOL!
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you sold it? u mind to tell how to sell and how much it worth? I have a blog with PR2 and no time to update it, thinking to sell it but dunno how to do, can u share? How much do u think a PR2 blog (blogspot.com) worth? Daily visitor is around 200 only without promoting, submission to social bookmarks and seldom update.  hmm.gif
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Haha, I am now working for the one who bought my blog too, looking for blogs for sale. But, as far as I know la. PR2, they buy with very low price ler. I suggest hor, you maintain it until it reaches PR4, then can get more. Now sell very low, like maybe less than USD100. But people look for finance, business, banking, auto more than others la.
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i see. u so clever la, so young but so good in making money rclxms.gif anyway, is the domain name (i mean the name shows in url) important to sell? if the domain name looks no relevent to any niche topic, ppl still buy it? You sold together with the contents or just the domain name? I wonder if all the contents removed, the domain url's PR will still remain... hmm.gif
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i see. u so clever la, so young but so good in making money  rclxms.gif anyway, is the domain name (i mean the name shows in url)  important to sell? if the domain name looks no relevent to any niche topic, ppl still buy it? You sold together with the contents or just the domain name? I wonder if all the contents removed, the domain url's PR will still remain... hmm.gif
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Most people only looks for domain, buy it then start from scratch. People only buy the whole site if it really looks professional and has a lot of visitors. If they buy the whole site, PR will remain. If they buy domain only, PR gone.

p/s: Are you thinking of selling .blogspot.com domain? I don't think people care for such domains. hmm.gif
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Most people only looks for domain, buy it then start from scratch. People only buy the whole site if it really looks professional and has a lot of visitors. If they buy the whole site, PR will remain. If they buy domain only, PR gone.

p/s: Are you thinking of selling .blogspot.com domain? I don't think people care for such domains. hmm.gif
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In fact I blog for many topics last time to "try & test" which blog to continue, so that blog was stopped for quite sometimes but surprisingly it has PR2 and around 200 visitors daily. So thinking to "let go" for those who like that blog. Ya, blogspot.com has no value coz it's free. If I purchase a domain name and redirect the blogspot.com to the new domain name, the PR will still remain, right? If its PR increase again (which I dun think so), then maybe can sell cheap cheap sweat.gif
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In fact I blog for many topics last time to "try & test" which blog to continue, so that blog was stopped for quite sometimes but surprisingly it has PR2 and around 200 visitors daily. So thinking to "let go" for those who like that blog. Ya, blogspot.com has no value coz it's free. If I purchase a domain name and redirect the blogspot.com to the new domain name, the PR will still remain, right? If its PR increase again (which I dun think so), then maybe can sell cheap cheap  sweat.gif
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It is still not too late to buy the domain la cause it is really chep lor. Less than RM40 if you host with Blogger. The PR will remain and yourblog.blogspot.com will be redirected to yourblog.com. Yeah, surely people will pay for domain blogs more than .blogspot la. LOL! Thanks for the praise as well.
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ya, I have 3 domain names using blogspot to redirect, I bought for $10 via Blogger coz no need setting DNS etc, all auto setup, that's why I blur to start with own domain. Anyway, will learn about it coz I want to be "serious" in blogging smile.gif Thanks ah...
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How do you check the page rank for other wesbite? need any unique tool or what?

I have the google toolbar installed but I just don't know how to check the PR for any site.
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How do you check the page rank for other wesbite? need any unique tool or what?

I have the google toolbar installed but I just don't know how to check the PR for any site.
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go here and check: http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php
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Thank you. It is a good site.

By the way, do you have any idea how to check how many backlinks do I have for my site?
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There are many methods:

1. Type link:http://yourblogname.com in the search box, it will show the results of sites that backlink u, but I found the results are not complete.

2. Use Google Webmaster Tool to check, this one is better.

3. Use Alexa.com to check.

and many other methods, u can search from Google to get the tips.

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Thank you. It is a good site.

By the way, do you have any idea how to check how many backlinks do I have for my site?
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i just check mine using google search http://www.myalza.com got PR 1 ,who can let me know correct or not?

and 1 more out topic question,can i use nuffnang on forum beside adsense,because the adsense only can earn $1-5 dollar a day only..
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i just check mine using google search  http://www.myalza.com got PR 1 ,who can let me know correct or not?

and 1 more out topic question,can i use nuffnang on forum beside adsense,because the adsense only can earn $1-5 dollar a day only..
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another question, how do I know whether my site got ranked and what is the position in the google?
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thanks mars  biggrin.gif  hope can get higher rank on coming time  biggrin.gif
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Something cool to read if you have time (you should coz it's damn long) and interested of knowing how Pagerank works. Or what the heck is it..

Point that thingy here and clicky
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Good site for check pagerank I use it.
http://www.ipagerank.net

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use google toolbar is the easiest way coz the PR bar will show its ranking of the sites that u r viewing.
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use google toolbar is the easiest way coz the PR bar will show its ranking of the sites that u r viewing.
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SEuQuake? What's that? Never heard b4...
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SEuQuake? What's that? Never heard b4...
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Hi SEOQUAKE is a Mozilla FireFox plugin that displays a variety of web information,

Mainly: (but not limited to)

1) PR rank
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3) amount of links indexed by yahoo
4) amount of links indexed by Google
5) Keyword density checker

What it does is that each time a page is loaded it will display the necessary information on your toolbar.
In addition you can also add a number of other web info to display. I have been using this plugin and have find it very useful

Here is a youtube video on SEOquake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTpS1ZM1CYk&feature=related

-Hope this helps

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Hi SEOQUAKE is a Mozilla FireFox plugin that displays a variety of web information,

Mainly: (but not limited to)

1) PR rank
2) Alexa ranking
3) amount of links indexed by yahoo
4) amount of links indexed by Google
5) Keyword density checker

What it does is that each time a page is loaded it will display the necessary information on your toolbar.
In addition you can also add a number of other web info to display. I have been using this plugin and have find it very useful

Here is a youtube video on SEOquake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTpS1ZM1CYk&feature=related

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Suggest another good tool bar which is searchstatus
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The latest PR update found something strange, my backlink is huge drop but my PR was increase
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recently has PR update? Which month you are referring to? Your "latest update" is April's update?  hmm.gif
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recently has PR update? Which month you are referring to? Your "latest update" is April's update?  hmm.gif
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The recent update was 03 Jun 2010
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Google index from SeoQuake shows 0. Strange hmm.gif
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Site still got many pages get indexed. Just that SeoQuake return 0.
My guess will be an outdated SeoQuake, waiting for new update maybe?
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Site still got many pages get indexed. Just that SeoQuake return 0.
My guess will be an outdated SeoQuake, waiting for new update maybe?
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I am confused. I've let my blog well... rot sweat.gif for almost a whole year but the pagerank went up??? rclxub.gif

edit: Checked some more of the counters i left running (forgot their passwords doh.gif) and I would wager that pagerank has nothing to do with traffice or site popularity? I only get a miserly 20 unique hits on average a day.

Is pagerank of any importance at all then?

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I am confused. I've let my blog well... rot  sweat.gif  for almost a whole year but the pagerank went up???  rclxub.gif

edit: Checked some more of the counters i left running (forgot their passwords doh.gif) and I would wager that pagerank has nothing to do with traffice or site popularity? I only get a miserly 20 unique hits on average a day.

Is pagerank of any importance at all then?
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all this new things and now I'm having a headache...
pagerank is under google rite? does the pagerank has anything to do with adsense or it was just about our link? our blog presence? and adsense come afterwards so that we can sells ads through the popularity of the blog?

and now i don't understand what i'm talking about.. sigh...

i need a sleep......
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Adsense has nothing to do with your PageRank. The PageRank is a value of ranking where it shows the importance of your site in the eyes of Google. Most higher PR sites ranks higher position in search engine although it is not the main factor to determine that.
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Any idea when will be the next PR update? agak-agak?
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Any idea when will be the next PR update? agak-agak?
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PR seems not updated since June 2010. So, it should be updated very soon, maybe this month
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thast's good. last year's oct end also got update  nod.gif
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Dont too worry about your PR, did your part and you will get the good result
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I still prefer good traffic than good PR  nod.gif PR for me is for "syok sendiri"  icon_idea.gif
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if you are running ads, then traffic is more important, but how much you will earn if you have 1000UV per day? maybe about USD1000. However, for the link seller, they can earn this amount too with PR5 or more although they dont have traffic
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QUOTE(lifeplayer @ Oct 14 2010, 10:53 PM)
Depend on your purpose.
if you are running ads, then traffic is more important, but how much you will earn if you have 1000UV per day? maybe about USD1000. However, for the link seller, they can earn this amount too with PR5 or more although they dont have traffic
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what is "link seller"? selling links space in blog?

I have few K UV per day but can't earn USD1000 per month, can earn few hundred USD per month is good already for me liao...maybe due to my keywords(for Adword) is cheap and my CTR is low hmm.gif

Anyway, I really hope my PR will improve this time coz remains at same PR for long time liao nod.gif
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Oct 15 2010, 08:48 AM)
what is "link seller"? selling links space in blog?

I have few K UV per day but can't earn USD1000 per month, can earn few hundred USD per month is good already for me liao...maybe due to my keywords(for Adword) is cheap and my CTR is low hmm.gif

Anyway, I really hope my PR will improve this time coz remains at same PR for long time liao  nod.gif
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You are much better than me, my site traffic is less than 1000 per day....lol
To get better PR, you need quality and quantity backlink
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You are much better than me, my site traffic is less than 1000 per day....lol
To get better PR, you need quality and quantity backlink
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traffic is something out of my control, I also wants to know how to drive more traffic to my site... hmm.gif
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traffic is something out of my control, I also wants to know how to drive more traffic to my site... hmm.gif
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It is quite depends on your niche, normally those niche like games, entertainment, wallpaper, phone site can get more traffic.
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SEO is the best way.
It is quite depends on your niche, normally those niche like games, entertainment, wallpaper, phone site can get more traffic.
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very bad, my site has no focus and not niche, it's just a fun blog for everything, maybe this is why I dun get much traffic from SE...I've dun what SEO recommended but dun see improvement hmm.gif
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For the general niche, it will be better go for the SMO, social media optimization, i believed that you are doing this to generate traffic for your site too
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For the general niche, it will be better go for the SMO, social media optimization, i believed that you are doing this to generate traffic for your site too
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SMO, social media optimization, this is first time I heard about this term, can u tell me more about this? hmm.gif Thanks notworthy.gif
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SMO, social media optimization, this is first time I heard about this term, can u tell me more about this?  hmm.gif  Thanks  notworthy.gif
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Media_Optimization
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Thanks biggrin.gif
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I still prefer good traffic than good PR  nod.gif PR for me is for "syok sendiri"  icon_idea.gif
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I only know if you get PR4 for your blog, you're quite a doing well blog.
If you have PR5, you're a geng blogger..
If you're PR6...O_O...O_O
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I only know if you get PR4 for your blog, you're quite a doing well blog.
If you have PR5, you're a geng blogger..
If you're PR6...O_O...O_O
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A website with PR6 or PR7 is okay. But to find a personal blog with PR4 and above is kinda rare.

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PR6 is not that hard, i have one website with PR6.
And i have to admit that that's really hard to go to PR7 although i work on the site hard
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QUOTE(rukawa @ Nov 16 2010, 12:28 PM)
A website with PR6 or PR7 is okay. But to find a personal blog with PR4 and above is kinda rare.
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Not sure. I just only hit PR4 after coming out from banned status.
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Pagerank is determine partially by your Backlinks. actually I can say that it's mainly.
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Pagerank is determine partially by your Backlinks. actually I can say that it's mainly.
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PR is depends on the dofollow backlink, the main and only factor
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QUOTE(akaneikegami @ Nov 28 2010, 10:27 AM)
yeah, backlinks are really important. not many bloggers know this though, sadly. that's why we must do more link exchange. it's better to exchange with domains like .edu, .org.
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maybe...there are some who purposely make .edu and .org sites just to do link exchange with their 'real' blogs.
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QUOTE(lifeplayer @ Nov 29 2010, 05:55 PM)
yes, this is one kind of "strategy"
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looks like I must start applying this. maybe some of us can share to make one. then link exchange with all our blogs. LOL LOL.
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Dammit !!!
When is going to be next PR update? sad.gif
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Just wonder, if other sites "hotlinking" the images hosted in our own server with the url mydomainname.com/wp-upload....jpg, will it be counted weight for PR?
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Just wonder, if other sites "hotlinking" the images hosted in our own server with the url mydomainname.com/wp-upload....jpg, will it be counted weight for PR?
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I don't think so...
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if no weight added for hotlinking and this will use up our bandwidth, then better block hotlinking images since it dun bring benefit to us...but I saw some sites provided the image url for those who wants to use the image, that's consider hotlinking also, why they do so? hmm.gif
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Dammit !!!
When is going to be next PR update? sad.gif
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Hi all,
Just sharing some resource I've found for backlinks with you.

http://www.free-web-submission.com/blog/bi...r-your-website/
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page rank is PR which poll by google
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Dec 3 2010, 08:27 AM)
Just wonder, if other sites "hotlinking" the images hosted in our own server with the url mydomainname.com/wp-upload....jpg, will it be counted weight for PR?
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Probably not. They are linking to a file, not a page. But I'm not blocking hotlinking as I myself hotlink my own image to other sites, forums for example, and bandwidth is not much of an issue, yet.
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In layman term, it's how google rate you in a scale of 1-10. Having a good page rank helps you earn better in reviews also give u an advantage in the SEO.
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I just noticed today, my sites' PR updated:

1 site PR3 to PR4
1 site PR0 to PR2
2 sites PR0 to PR1
2 sites PR1 unchanged

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Jan 21 2011, 12:52 AM)
I just noticed today, my sites' PR updated:

1 site PR3 to PR4
1 site PR0 to PR2
2 sites PR0 to PR1
2 sites PR1 unchanged

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wow. PR0-PR2. This site must be good!
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Jan 21 2011, 12:52 AM)
I just noticed today, my sites' PR updated:

1 site PR3 to PR4
1 site PR0 to PR2
2 sites PR0 to PR1
2 sites PR1 unchanged

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Jan 21 2011, 12:52 AM)
I just noticed today, my sites' PR updated:

1 site PR3 to PR4
1 site PR0 to PR2
2 sites PR0 to PR1
2 sites PR1 unchanged

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u are doing good.. mind to share what u did to have the PR increase?
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You are doing a great job.
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u are doing good.. mind to share what u did to have the PR increase?
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just update blogs daily, PR4 blog at least 3 posts per day, PR2 blog at least 1 post per day, PR1 blogs few posts per month sweat.gif Didn't do anything on link exchange but all blogs have link in my PR4 blog smile.gif

I also seldom exchange link with ppl in my PR4 blog, unless the sites have PR3 or higher, or they buy "site wide link" from me smile.gif


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how often do they update the pagerank?
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so, I've just migrated all my blog post from blogspot to my own website.
Any necessary steps that I need to take?
How can I redirect Links @ blogspot to my own host?
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so, I've just migrated all my blog post from blogspot to my own website.
Any necessary steps that I need to take?
How can I redirect Links @ blogspot to my own host?
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not really, maybe due to a lot of link exchange smile.gif
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U mean Links Exchange or Buy Links with higher PR site?
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use google pagerank checker to check a equal measurement of your pagerank.
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Google's Page Rank algorithm is really hard to understand but I agree that with constant updates with high quality content (especially now after Google's recent 'Farmers' update) and related keywords would really help your PR to rise quite well.

Link exchanges should still work pretty well as well, as Google still considers these quite highly when determining a site's page rank. But things may have changed with the recent update.

Anybody have any idea on this?
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hi everyone im newbie here. Just want to ask any tips to increase my page rank?
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Better still link to your website with a key word as the anchor text, such as 'growing vegetables' or 'cooking' or whatever your website is about.
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hi everyone im newbie here. Just want to ask any tips to increase my page rank?
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Forum posting and blog commenting are both easiest way to increase your pr. However, you gotta find out those dofollow blog/forum because nofollow never pass you pr juice
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pagerank doesn't mean good SERP (Search Engine Result Page) , i will looks for the SERP because it draw visitor to my site.
believe me!!
but usually high page rank mean high SERP...
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all in the table. sempoi.

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My PR went up +1

Anyone experience the change of PR just to confirm Google did update the page rank or not.
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mine went up +2 biggrin.gif indeed, Google updated PR wink.gif
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My blogs got 2 up and 1 down. smile.gif
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my old blog which didn't update for years... still got PR 2

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my blog went +1 up! wink.gif
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QUOTE(hullabaloo_bard @ Dec 13 2008, 09:56 PM)
I think sometimes we are too obsessed about page rank untill the extent we forget the main objective of having blog -  good content.
Most of the ways of improving page rank does not directly contribute in having content.

Finally, although we rank 1st in the search engine result, the visitor will only come and go when there is nothing in our blog.
For me, we should balance up between good content and good page rank.

Darren Rowse ( Author of ProBlogger) has support this in his youtube video. If you are interested, you can click below link

Darren Rowse - Forget about Page Rank and Build a Great Blog

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yeah rite...good content. i've never bothered about page rank in my personal blog but i'm managing a blogshop so page rank is kinda important. been dropping lately.

anyone know whether the Google +1 affects SEO and page rank? saw few bloggers claiming that Google will soon rank pages based on +1 so i quickly go add the button to my blogshop. but my blogshop are mostly visited by ppl who wants to buy/ sell, not everyone has a Google account to give you a +1 wor...got me quite worried...
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anyone know whether the Google +1 affects SEO and page rank?
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1. Google +1 is not affecting PR
2. Google +1 is affecting SERP, but not much
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1. Google +1 is not affecting PR
2. Google +1 is affecting SERP, but not much
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In time to come, it will matter. Google has already admitted that social mentions, especially on Twitter and Facebook, are considered in their algorithm.
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Forum posting and blog commenting are both easiest way to increase your pr. However, you gotta find out those dofollow blog/forum because nofollow never pass you pr juice
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Blog posting is use OPENID to do comment on others post?
Forum posting is put a hyperlink on the post? icon_question.gif
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Blog posting is use OPENID to do comment on others post?
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Never put hyperlink on post, use signature
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Better dont use openid to do commenting, the percentage get approved is lower
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QUOTE(lifeplayer @ Jul 4 2011, 01:33 AM)
1. Google +1 is not affecting PR
2. Google +1 is affecting SERP, but not much
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QUOTE(wirelessdude @ Jul 6 2011, 09:14 PM)
In time to come, it will matter. Google has already admitted that social mentions, especially on Twitter and Facebook, are considered in their algorithm.
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QUOTE(lifeplayer @ Jul 7 2011, 03:16 AM)
if you talk about SERP, the answer is YES
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i'm an ostrich, prefer lifeplayer's answer tongue.gif at least not much of a worry for now. still got time to explore until it "matters"... yawn.gif can get too tired sometimes, when there are too many interesting stuffs to follow.

QUOTE(junior5417 @ Jul 8 2011, 09:37 AM)
commenting on blogspot can put singgy? hmm.gif
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i think he's talking about siggy in forum. hmm.gif if there is a way to put siggy on comments, let me know too.
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Pagerank is useless, when people buy something from your site. that matter.i does not about it.
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Pagerank is useless, when people buy something from your site. that matter.i does not about it.
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where got useless. page rank in advertising important le.
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where got useless. page rank in advertising important le.
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agree with lifeplayer..advertiser surely will choose a website with high visitor than a website with a high PR but they don't have too much visitor..except you want to strengthen your website backlinks, then you should look for a high PR website..
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MY site google rank is just 2
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the more high PR the more visible your webpage/blog on 1st page of search engine..

PR is the 2nd most important after Meta Tags
even your meta tag relevancy is 100% your site will be at the bottom of related search
example : your sites major keyword is free advertising
your opponent major keyword is free advertising too

your site PR is 0
Your opponent site PR is 5

when a client search for a keyword "Free advertising"

Your opponent site will be the 1st visible at the search result before your site..so don't think that google pagerank is not important..since 80% of user is choosing google to do searching smile.gif

tips: if your site is not on 1st page,80% chance that your sites will be not seen by user smile.gif
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Meta tag is totally ignored by google, it is useless nowadays
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Yeah google ignores keyword meta tag and page rank is merely a badge which makes no difference to your serp positions.

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Yeah google ignores keyword meta tag and page rank is merely a badge which makes no difference to your serp positions.
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If your talking about the toolbar page rank, it has no effect on your serps.

To get high PR all you need to do is get dofollow backlinks from high pr web pages, the anchor text could say anything and the page wouldn't have to be in any way related to the content on your own website. The easiest way to do this would be dofollow blog comments.

To get high in the serps you need to have relevant backlinks with optimized anchor texts from authority websites.

So picture this, 2 brand new websites going for the same keyword, 1 person is getting dofollow backlinks from high pr movable type blogs not related to the keyword and in the anchor text it says the owners name. The other person is getting backlinks from relevant pages with low pr but high authority domain and the anchor text contains the keywords. Each person gets 1000 links. The 1st person would end up with a higher toolbar page rank as more page rank has been passed to his website but he would be much lower in the serps for the keyword than the second person who has optimized his backlinks from relevant sources.

Check out Matt Cutts (google employee) youtube channel or have a read through the google webmaster forum where the toolbar rank is explained.

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QUOTE(gregghawes @ Sep 15 2011, 07:40 AM)
If your talking about the toolbar page rank, it has no effect on your serps.

To get high PR all you need to do is get dofollow backlinks from high pr web pages, the anchor text could say anything and the page wouldn't have to be in any way related to the content on your own website. The easiest way to do this would be dofollow blog comments.

To get high in the serps you need to have relevant backlinks with optimized anchor texts from authority websites.

So picture this, 2 brand new websites going for the same keyword, 1 person is getting dofollow backlinks from high pr movable type blogs not related to the keyword and in the anchor text it says the owners name. The other person is getting backlinks from relevant pages with low pr but high authority domain and the anchor text contains the keywords. Each person gets 1000 links. The 1st person would end up with a higher toolbar page rank as more page rank has been passed to his website but he would be much lower in the serps for the keyword than the second person who has optimized his backlinks from relevant sources.

Check out Matt Cutts (google employee) youtube channel or have a read through the google webmaster forum where the toolbar rank is explained.
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QUOTE(gregghawes @ Sep 15 2011, 07:40 AM)
If your talking about the toolbar page rank, it has no effect on your serps.

To get high PR all you need to do is get dofollow backlinks from high pr web pages, the anchor text could say anything and the page wouldn't have to be in any way related to the content on your own website. The easiest way to do this would be dofollow blog comments.

To get high in the serps you need to have relevant backlinks with optimized anchor texts from authority websites.

So picture this, 2 brand new websites going for the same keyword, 1 person is getting dofollow backlinks from high pr movable type blogs not related to the keyword and in the anchor text it says the owners name. The other person is getting backlinks from relevant pages with low pr but high authority domain and the anchor text contains the keywords. Each person gets 1000 links. The 1st person would end up with a higher toolbar page rank as more page rank has been passed to his website but he would be much lower in the serps for the keyword than the second person who has optimized his backlinks from relevant sources.

Check out Matt Cutts (google employee) youtube channel or have a read through the google webmaster forum where the toolbar rank is explained.
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Dofollow backlink improve your PR, and dont forget that dofollow backlink is improving your SERP too
And SERP not only about "relevant backlinks with optimized anchor texts from authority websites", what you talking is only partial of the off-page SEO. There are still many factor including the onpage SEO such as h1,h2 tag, meta description etc. Besides, hosting, domain name etc is also some major factor that affect the SERP as well

FYI, Matt Cutts is the head of the webspam team at Google
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Dofollow backlink improve your PR, and dont forget that dofollow backlink is improving your SERP too
And SERP not only about "relevant backlinks with optimized anchor texts from authority websites", what you talking is only partial of the off-page SEO. There are still many factor including the onpage SEO such as h1,h2 tag, meta description etc. Besides, hosting, domain name etc is also some major factor that affect the SERP as well

FYI, Matt Cutts is the head of the webspam team at Google
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Of course dofollow backlinks will help seo, just pointing out that what the guy was saying about pr being 2nd most important for serps is false. Having a pr6 page doesn't mean that you will outrank pr 4 page. PR is just a way of gauging how important a page is but doesn't show what a page is important for.

Yeah Matt Cutts also talks a lot of crap but hes the only person that talks publicly from google about improving serps.
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QUOTE(gregghawes @ Sep 15 2011, 04:43 PM)
Of course dofollow backlinks will help seo, just pointing out that what the guy was saying about pr being 2nd most important for serps is false. Having a pr6 page doesn't mean that you will outrank pr 4 page. PR is just a way of gauging how important a page is but doesn't show what a page is important for.

Yeah Matt Cutts also talks a lot of crap but hes the only person that talks publicly from google about improving serps.
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True, pr is one of the factor that affect the serp but not the only factor. The most I agree is what you talk about Matt cutts....lol
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Higher PR means more traffic to your site, and higher chance of getting more revenue generated from ads/sales.
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Higher PR means more traffic to your site, and higher chance of getting more revenue generated from ads/sales.
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Not true, high pr doesn't mean high traffic
Low pr site can have much more traffic than high pr site
High pr just mean you have number of dofollow backlink that pass you enough pr juice to achieve the pr level
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Higher PR means more traffic to your site, and higher chance of getting more revenue generated from ads/sales.
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"Higher PR means more traffic to your site" ~ not agreed and not true! shakehead.gif
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Once I found a website with page rank 0 and ranked high in google. I cocncluded that backlinking by article posting is the best way for seo....Am I right?
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Not really, there are many factor that affecting the serp, it can also due to tons of nofollow link too
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With the new algorithm from google's Panda. They are now looking also into the content. In your website you must put a google+ button.
This way it will help google "rank" your content.
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With the new algorithm from google's Panda.  They are now looking also into the content.  In your website you must put a google+ button.
This way it will help google "rank" your content.
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PR (page rank) and SERP (search engine ranking page) are different. What you mentioned is about SERP, not PR

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Once I found a website with page rank 0 and ranked high in google. I cocncluded that backlinking by article posting is the best way for seo....Am I right?
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Absolutely not true. Even my backside farted in disagreement. LOL.

High quality backlinks. Lots of them. Article posting in PR0 sites are always gonna offer little help in your SERP.
Just follow the footstep of this Angela Edwards woman in building quality backlinks. She has some proven technique that works.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Nov 29 2011, 11:10 PM)
Absolutely not true. Even my backside farted in disagreement. LOL.

High quality backlinks. Lots of them. Article posting in PR0 sites are always gonna offer little help in your SERP.
Just follow the footstep of this Angela Edwards woman in building quality backlinks. She has some proven technique that works.
You realize Angela and Paul style links suck ass right? They used to work many years ago but just like Angela's page rank they have died very quickly. They don't offer a relevant backlink and just give you a simple profile link on a high pr domain. I would take 100 PR0 article backlinks over 100 Angela and Paul backlinks any day of the week.
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For Me,Getting A Forever PR0 Backlink Is More Better Than Getting A 1 Month PR9 Backlinks
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I found a really cool way....not many people know about this to increase the page rank.
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download google toolbar too
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Hi,
I don't think that PR is the confirmation of getting good ranking in SERP results. I have seen many 0 PR sites are at first position of google.
It is very confusing that how PR works.
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QUOTE(optimoptim @ Dec 30 2011, 09:56 PM)
Hi,
I don't think that PR is the confirmation of getting good ranking in SERP results. I have seen many 0 PR sites are at first position of google.
It is very confusing that how PR works.
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PR is based on the dofollow backlink and dofollow backlink also one of the factor that affecting the SERP. However, dofollow backlink is not the only factor that affect the SERP, it is only one out of hundreds
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I just found out a new website with page rank 2. With only 3 sites linking in.

The website is just 4 days older than mine. Were using the same classified ads template.

Why the heck google give it a page rank 2 sad.gif
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QUOTE(junnydc @ Jan 24 2012, 11:13 PM)
I just found out a new website with page rank 2.  With only 3 sites linking in. 

The website is just 4 days older than mine. Were using the same classified ads template.

Why the heck google give it a page rank 2 sad.gif
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what is the url of the website?
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PR is not an important factor in SEO anymore.
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So, the trick is do many many link swaps with each other. Orang Malaysia tolong diri sendiri. wink.gif
So, who want to swap?
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So, the trick is do many many link swaps with each other. Orang Malaysia tolong diri sendiri. wink.gif
So, who want to swap?
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Exchanging links wont do much good, you need 1 way links to increase page rank and increase serps.

BTW Page rank has updated in the past few hours, have you all checked your increases? I got 1 site up to a pr 6 which is the highest I have ever had.
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How to do the 1 way links bro? tks. wink.gif

QUOTE(gregghawes @ Feb 6 2012, 08:20 PM)
Exchanging links wont do much good, you need 1 way links to increase page rank and increase serps.

BTW Page rank has updated in the past few hours, have you all checked your increases? I got 1 site up to a pr 6 which is the highest I have ever had.
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How to do the 1 way links bro? tks. wink.gif
Theres lots of ways like:

Forum posts
Forum Profiles
Blog Comments
Social Bookmarking
Web 2.0 Profiles
Angela and Paul Style Profiles
Video Submissions
RSS Submissions
Web directories

The most effective 1 ways links are where you have you backlink in relative content like:

Guest Blogging
Article Marketing
Press Releases
Blog Networks
Web 2.0 Properties

Since the latest google updates, google has publicly said that reciprocal backlinks can actually hurt your rankings more than it would improve them. http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/i...py?answer=66356

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glad to know that. My blgo remains 1PR after a year..sad.gif
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Looks like a lot of hard work for the fingers. Wonder if the return is worth it? wink.gif
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Looks like a lot of hard work for the fingers. Wonder if the return is worth it? wink.gif
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I am doing this for hobby only la.. So far so good. Must have time to spare tho. wink.gif
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I am doing this for hobby only la.. So far so good. Must have time to spare tho. wink.gif
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for us, getting youtube videos with our links and references works very well in giving us higher PR. Google+ and FB fan page is a must on top of all traditional link building work as usual.
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Here is a great infographic on Google PageRank... Google Pagerank Infographic
This visual aid really gave me a clearer understanding of how to improve my Google Pagerank.
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The inforgraphic page is not working, you may find the info at
http://www.seoconsultant.com.my/2012/01/pa...ncrease-it.html

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Pagerank is damn. I have try so many way but still PR0.
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Pagerank is damn. I have try so many way but still PR0.
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QUOTE(naziman @ May 24 2012, 12:32 AM)
Pagerank is damn. I have try so many way but still PR0.
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glad to know that. My blgo remains 1PR after a year..sad.gif
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Hmmm, just share something to all of you. Try download this ebook called "Outsmarting Google". Inside there mentioned about "Trustrank". Which is very helpful in building SEO.
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I have a question regarding articles. If I submit similar articles to different article directories, is that considered duplicate content?

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I have a question regarding articles. If I submit similar articles to different article directories, is that considered duplicate content?
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Duplicate content penalties are more about the similar content on your own site but if you submit the same article to directories you will stop seeing any serp improvement after around 50 submissions, it is better if you submit unique articles to each directory though. I normally submit the same article to the top 50 article directories and then I spin it to 50%+ uniqueness and submit to all the others. Make sure any article you submit does not appear on your own site.
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QUOTE(gregghawes @ Jun 10 2012, 12:08 PM)
Duplicate content penalties are more about the similar content on your own site but if you submit the same article to directories you will stop seeing any serp improvement after around 50 submissions, it is better if you submit unique articles to each directory though. I normally submit the same article to the top 50 article directories and then I spin it to 50%+ uniqueness and submit to all the others. Make sure any article you submit does not appear on your own site.
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I was about to post the same article I submitted on my site. Thanks for the info! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(gregghawes @ Jun 10 2012, 12:08 PM)
I normally submit the same article to the top 50 article directories and then I spin it to 50%+ uniqueness and submit to all the others. Make sure any article you submit does not appear on your own site.
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Spin article no more work after google panda, you gotta spin it at least 95%. And then, google working further to update the algorithm after the google panda, called as Google Penguin, spin articcle no more work. You need unique article

By the way, this is all about SERP, it is not about PR. It seems abit out of the thread topic
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Anyone knows about the updates on google panda and google penguin..

A lot of sites getting torn down after the update on April/May..

I hear you need to do social marketing as well such as facebook and twitter to rank higher in google..
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Anyone knows about the updates on google panda and google penguin..

A lot of sites getting torn down after the update on April/May..

I hear you need to do social marketing as well such as facebook and twitter to rank higher in google..
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yes, absolutely true.

google page rank now depending on social websites too.

having a fb page necessary for every website. = )
Nemesix
post Jul 24 2012, 06:20 AM

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thanks for the info mate!!
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post Sep 28 2012, 03:16 PM

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I don't know how it works. In fact , i will know the PR of my page through plug-ins.

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