need some help, cause i confuse with the sex of both my betta.
here is the picture. which one is male or female, or both same gender?

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Added on May 4, 2010, 4:07 amsorry if cause any trouble.

This post has been edited by zoejehuty: May 4 2010, 04:07 AM


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Thats a Female.

female? both of them?
but then i check their belly there, there got no white spot also...

I have the same aquarium as yours, but may i ask a stupid question? How to change the water when dirty? Cause it is very small plastic case & my net is too big can't fit in to catch them out for changing water purpose.

& everytime after change the water, their body will become lighter colour, (from black to grey), is it normal? Sorry not good in describe & hope you guys understand what i say. & hope this won't be stupid question, i'm just new in this. >.<

Thanks ya.

I want to ask here...how to rear betta for longer life time?cz mine always die around 1-2 months

Betta life usually around 2 years if not mistaken.

i guess this is a male(as u mentioned, no white spot at the belly) fighter from the picture...

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Added on May 8, 2010, 3:02 amyou water is not clean enough or the fish is stress, or it will bite off its tail.. it is vr common for halfmoons... and genetic background play a role too..

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Added on May 8, 2010, 3:05 amvr common for halfmoons.. too stress...

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Added on May 8, 2010, 3:07 amwhat colour u looking at.. better look for reputable breeder around~~

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Added on May 8, 2010, 3:09 amu sure it is 3 years and 5 months? do u know betta lifespan?

This post has been edited by spirit of demon: May 8 2010, 03:09 AM

erm, you can try to diy it, if not then go and get a floating storage from the brand called "Marina". you can get it in jusco, cause i saw it there.
i going to diy my own one, make the bottom side layer flow in water.


the red purple colour sometimes i see got white belly, sometimes not...
but then i got 1 male, red colour with long fin, i check it out, got white belly...
that's the thing i confuse.

erm.. the white colour things is ovaries.. so, it cannot be hide..

how long is the fin? HM?

I got a male & female, put in a same aquarium but separate with the board just like yours, my female can't stop to ask for food, whenever see me she will keep swim at me to ask for food, i put lot of pellets but she can finish it in just a while. While my male don't know why, yesterday still got eat, but this morning, he eat & eat & vomit out all the ate just now, after vomit & eat again, & vomit again. Really don't know what's the problem is.

Most of these fish can live for 2-3 years in fish bowl.

Normally, bettas live two to five years depending on how they are cared for. Male bettas that live alone in large individual tanks and get daily exercise have lived six years or longer in laboratories. Typically, males purchased from a pet store are over four months old, at a point when their finnage becomes fullest and most attractive. Due to their shorter finnage, females available in pet stores are often only three to six months old.

Betta fish actually live for 4+ years, eight years is not uncommon, in a 2+ gallon tank. In petstores males and females are actually an average of two years old; a female's finnage is alway short.

2-3 years in a bowl but 6-7 in a tank. 8 years is not uncommon, though.

You may find it that your beta lives longer with different plants, and tanks.

Credit to WikiAnswers.

I thought Betta life only around 2 years.

hmm... but then i see some others got a bump over there also, but then just not white.
i upload 4 of my betta pictures la.
this is male as what i been told that time when i bought it in lfs.
this also been told is male.

this is female as been told from lfs
this is female as been told from lfs

but then i just confuse as well due to the white spot.
my long fin red one, although is male, but then got the spot...

sorry to dissapoint u that, wiki doesn't mean correct... wiki is man-based uploaded info.. not scientific info... if you are doing professional thesis.. u cant put wiki as references.. hope this help... look at the finnage.. i can tell its age... over a years or 2... a hm will failed to erect his finnage so well... and mostly, they will bite their tail in order for them to swim properly.. HM is not a pure splendens.. it have undergo some study of genetic background and selective breeding.. so, u cant compare a wild splendens with a hm... hope this help and no offence anyone..


why i know this?

i took part in betta competiton, and mostly i will compete in HM category.. So, i know what is the best time for a HM to show his full potential.. normally, a full potential hm will be 5-7months, when the finnage and colour fully develop(especially for red, the big scale and irids will slowly be cover by red at this age).. So, a breeder will normally spawn the fish 6 months before the competition.. and dont't believe, spawn a pair.. u know what i m talking about..


and if talking about non-splendens type.. that is different story.. let's say macrostoma.. they can live for 9 years and above.. because they reach their maturity around 1.5 years old while splendens reach its maturity at 2.5 months old..

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Added on May 8, 2010, 5:52 pmwan to know more... go to this...
http://www.ibcbettas.org/smp/species/index.html

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Added on May 8, 2010, 6:00 pmby looking at the ventrals from the picture.. i got at least 60% confident to tell u that, the LFS is right...

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Added on May 8, 2010, 6:05 pmvomit out means it is full d.. stop feeding now..
and in order to give a long-run good heath for an adult fish.. try skip feeding(feed 2 days and stop 1 day) and a small portion(let say three piece of 0.1mm diameter pellets) are enough for each feeding.. don't over feed...

This post has been edited by spirit of demon: May 8 2010, 06:12 PM

picture of some of my non-splendens type...

B.Uberis


B.krataois



B.Pugnax and B.macrostoma


and i have B.persephone, B.albimarginata. B.channoides, B.Rubra and B.dimidiata.. will post up their picture soon

Wow thanks for info bro! Now i only know can't over feeding cause the female just like not enough full & keep eating. & 1 day i feed 3 times is it ok? Each time i will feed male less but female more cause i see her keep not enough to eat.

& may i know how to know that both male & female are ready to breed?

Thanks!

feed twice a day is more than enough.. the main key is frequent but less...
stop feeding ur female... else when she get too big.. it is hard to spawn her d.. the male cannot embrace her...

male can spawn from age of 3 months to entire lifespan provided it can blow thick bubble nest and still strong enough to embrace the female... Normally, male that is older than 1 year old, it is hard to spawn him d.. but that is still chance that old male can spawn.. just not easy.. So, get a young male...

you can know the female is spawning mood when u saw the vertical bar and if the belly is big enough... normally, 3 months old female is mature enough to spawn.. rest her about 2 weeks to 1 months.. u can spawn her again..
and remember female is dominant than male.. means the frys normmaly depend more on female.. that is y, female price is higher..

So, get a nice female to spawn..


a quote from my friend,
"cheap is not good, good is not cheap"

Thanks for your information again.

You live in Sri Kembangan? Which part? If you free may i pay a visit to your home to learn something from you. I have rear Bettas for many years already but till now only know that my way is wrong, (that i always feed them 3 times a day), & never have breeding experience, just always rear them for hobby purpose.

to breed betta, is it need to be very muddy tank? or can it be breed in planted tank?

Heard that need to pay attention on the CT water changing? What is needed to pay attention on cause my Betta now is CT..

what is CT? cant really figure out the shortform.