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edmund90
post Sep 12 2011, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(monoeye @ Sep 12 2011, 03:59 PM)
memang poisoning hobby. got 1 as a gift at first.

now got 9. oh mai.  rclxub.gif
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Take some pic and upload to share ba..
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post Sep 12 2011, 10:07 PM

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post Sep 13 2011, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(chinbehsong @ Sep 13 2011, 01:05 AM)
I'm currently in KL now. =) haha recently i only realized there are so many types and many names on them =). I would to have a Halfmoon plakat , CT now. I would to have all the types. =)
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Actually those name is just the breeder name their fish to make it nicer only.. as long as the buyer like, then ok liao lo. thumbup.gif
types then there is mainly 4 types tat is popular now which are (most<--->least) HMPK,HM,Giant,CT..
then color i guess there r too many.. haha.. rclxub.gif
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post Sep 13 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(GhostEdition @ Sep 13 2011, 01:33 PM)
Hi All,

I'm interested in getting a pair of bettas (male & female) and I've done a lot of reading (BSM, Betty Splendens, wikiHow, etc..) over the past few weeks to learn how to breed them (in order to produce different variation of colour and type). To be honest my target is Double Tail + Halfmoon/delta tail = Double Ray / Double Double Ray. Below are a few questions I have;

1. where can i find medicines for known betta diseases where i'm located (Puchong) as i've gone to a few pet shops in puchong and either they don't have or sometimes then don't even know what i'm talking about?
2. where can i find fry food in puchong?
2. is there a betta breeder in puchong? (if none, let me be the 1st ;D)
3. since there is no price control on betta fishes, i'm looking for sellers willing to sell 7 weeks old bettas (double tail male and halfmoon/delta tail female) below RM10, is there any?

Thanks in advance for your feedback.
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2 ray long tail = veiltail..
if double ray doesnt mean veiltail then in my mind only pop out double ray ct.
maybe i m kinda newbie i had not heard double double ray b4 so i have no idea wat it is..

Answer for ur questions
Puchong breeder(i assume u mean home breeder at puchong),home breeder usually sell fish at rm20 and above and erm, usually halfmoon(real halfmoon) female shud b around rm40 and above.. So with the price u offer i guess is kinda hard to get wat u wanted.. Maybe u can try ur luck at jalan pasar,pudu with those rejected quality from home breeder.
Fry food u can get it from home breeder or some website selling betta in msia.
7 weeks betta we usually known as fries/juvi and home breeder usually wont sell their betta at this age. Betta only ready to breed when they r age 4 months above.
About medicine, there are various type of medicine,may i know which type of medicine u r referring to? (usually Melafix i assume then at cheras,kl can get it)
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post Sep 13 2011, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(GhostEdition @ Sep 13 2011, 02:58 PM)
hi edmund,

thank you for your reply..
- you are right, double double rays are CTs with more split ends wink.gif
- hmm, RM20 to RM40 is what i got too (will survey further then)
- Fry food, don't really want to go all the way to KL, will consider online then
- Yes, 7 weeks fry is what i want and continue to breed them until they are ready to mate. but like you said, thats not gonna happen so will survey further.
- For medicine, i just want to know where to find them for the below diseases;
Black spot disease
Chilodonella
Dropsy
Eye fungus
Fish lice
Mouth "fungus" - Melafix
Ick / white spot disease
Anchor Worm
Pop-eye
Skin fungus, body fungus
Velvet
Fin Rot - Melafix

p/s : I don't have a betta fish yet as I am not well prepare yet (i.e. where to find medicine, where to find fry food, etc..)
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To be honest, u r just like me last time.. b4 buying any betta, will prepare everything 1st.. haha.. looking at ur comment makes me remind me last time.. hoho..
Well for those diseases, u can try to prevent them or minimizing them by adding little bit of salt and ketapang leaf(indian almond leaf) into the water.. prevent is better than cure. Water change(WC) regularly then shud b alright.
For fungus,fin rot,pop eye, u can use yellow powder. But a bottle of Melafix is alright also. Dropsy? better let it die in peace only,so far 99% fish kena dropsy=mati. Velvet and white spot u can use methylene blue.


Added on September 14, 2011, 12:07 am
QUOTE(chinbehsong @ Sep 13 2011, 08:18 PM)
Thank you for your advice. I bought a HM online from Bobby. Will arrived soon. Going to make payment. =)

Snap a pic of HIM when I got him. Cheers. =)

Would to have a HMPK, and CT soon. Anyone has them?
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HMPK i got but still very young.. 2months++ only..

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post Sep 14 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(chinbehsong @ Sep 14 2011, 12:35 AM)
Would like to ask everyone here. If my betta isn't flaring is because too young or other problem? and did female betta flare?
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shud b ur water got problem or the fish stress or sick.. female do flare also just not as fierce as male.
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post Sep 14 2011, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(GhostEdition @ Sep 14 2011, 02:58 AM)
This is some good advice.. Thank you for your time replying.. thumbup.gif
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is alright.. i just sharing wat i learn here and from BSM.. last time here got plenty of betta player but now all missing.. ><!!


Added on September 14, 2011, 1:03 pmBetta ebook for u guys to read more.. ^^
http://www.bettasocietymalaysia.com.my/for...&p=97364#p97364

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post Sep 14 2011, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(byakuya8283 @ Sep 14 2011, 02:21 PM)
edmund where ur house i want to go and see d cooper dragon...i want to buy drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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My copper dragon sold out liao lu.. This r d video if u wan see.. but i no longer continue this line..





Added on September 14, 2011, 2:36 pmleft 1 piece copper marble, but still grooming and maybe wan bring to Betta Sunday for comp try try.. ^^

If u guys wan, u can add me in my facebook(put betta as message when add)~~~ edmund_yap90@hotmail.com

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post Sep 14 2011, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(ShotGun5203 @ Sep 14 2011, 05:44 PM)
any1 can tell me where to buy betta macrostoma in semenanjung ?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2032217&hl=betta
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post Sep 14 2011, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(ShotGun5203 @ Sep 14 2011, 06:15 PM)
Thanks ! ..btw wild beta hard to take care? any diff from normal beta?
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erm, i din play wild betta b4 so i dunno.. maybe u can try ask c.way or other wild betta player at bsm forum.. BSM website
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post Sep 14 2011, 08:14 PM

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post Sep 14 2011, 08:31 PM

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My fancy HMPK spawn
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Added on September 14, 2011, 8:36 pm
QUOTE(GhostEdition @ Sep 14 2011, 08:18 PM)
Thank you for the ebook..
My plan to breed is still on going, slowly but surely..
I will try to update as much as possible the progress..
For starters, below is some pictures of my tank setup.
The tank is running on a fishless cycle and once i have the bettas i plan to remove the Suction Filter and leave the Air Pump filter (picture in url)

Once the fish starts breeding then need to look for more containers  doh.gif

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Let me know what do you think of the setup and if there is something I'm about to do wrong with the current setup..

p/s: salt (have it).. daun ketapang (work in progress)..
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nice but i will suggest u turn off all the filter when u put in the betta. then the separation thing also can remove.. do put a half cut cup on the water for the male to make bubble nest. then those pipe in the female tank u can put in the breeding tank for the female to hide while breeding.. the male might chase the female for 9 street.. haha.. only turn on the filter(with minimum bubble) when the fries r age around 3 weeks.

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post Sep 17 2011, 03:10 PM

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Just jar...
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post Sep 17 2011, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(GhostEdition @ Sep 17 2011, 07:21 PM)
hi edmund..

nice.. just curious, when u say HMPK (Halfmoon Plakat) is it because it was bred with Halfmoon + Plakat = Halfmoon Plakat?
Or is it because it's a Plakat that has a Halfmoon tail?

Added : When buying a betta, what determines the price of it? (i.e. I've seen in mudah.my there are people selling their bettas for almost RM400)
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HMPK = a plakat(short tail) tat has 4 ray and above and got 180 caudal spread. (*i guess pretty close to ur 2nd explanation)
TPK aka Traditional plakat = 2 ray at the caudal only

HM = a long tail fish with 180 caudal spread
Super delta = a long tail fish with more than 170 caudal spread but less than 180
Delta = a long tail fish with less than 170 caudal spread
Veiltail = a 2 ray long tail betta

The price? tats very subjective.. the seller set the price then if the buyer like and can afford then the deal is done.
One more thing is ; u pay for wat u get.. If u like it then the price isnt a big issue anymore unless the price set by the buyer is too ridiculous.
Usually for HMPK and HM price range will be RM20-RM100(depends on quality).
Hope d above guide might help ya.. Anyway, i was still learning also.. thumbup.gif

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post Sep 17 2011, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(GhostEdition @ Sep 17 2011, 09:15 PM)
thanks.. btw, i've gone through a few of your post and i assume u breed HMPKs..
if you don't mind me asking, is it because it sells better or u just like HMPKs?
what about crowntails, i don't see people selling that as much as HMs / HMPKs..
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erm, i just started to breed HM ( fries only 3 days old) haha..
CT = hard to maintain..
HMPK = easy to take care and nice
HM = nicer but need more effort to take care ( tats y now only try breed HM)
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post Sep 18 2011, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(GhostEdition @ Sep 17 2011, 09:37 PM)
owh ok.. anyway, will be getting my male & female betta middle of next week..
will post some photos and if all goes well with the breeding, then will post betta fry photos smile.gif..
anyway, have a great weekend edmund...
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Good Luck.. ^^
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post Sep 19 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(SFerrari @ Sep 19 2011, 03:00 PM)
anyone can advise what fish can be put with betta fish?

i got one betta fish only and it seems very lonely and less activity.
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i will say tat betta is a lonely fish.. if u put in other fish will make him bite d others only.. in order to increase the betta activity u need to let it exercise frequently(flaring activity).. flaring can improve the betta finnage and form.. ^^ how to make it flare? simply just show him another betta.. so buy 2 betta and put in different jar then block their view with each other.. let them see each other once in a while..
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Sep 19 2011, 07:46 PM)
wee long time didn't come in here, just to share my latest jar biggrin.gif

multi color fresh from grown out tank. Plat white with red wash sire from bro curaptz, ext red dame from unker wong. This cross fix the red wash on caudal, dorsal and anal fin by giving it a red boost on them lol but then introduced some some irid on them sigh.

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my last 5 attempt were disastrous, apparently unker wong ER line had too much inbreeding or crossing with DT, most of the juvenile had crooked body or just wont grow lol.


Added on September 19, 2011, 7:52 pmbro edmund, how large is your grown out tank and mind to share your juvenile betta growth rate ?

mine took about 2month plus to reach the length about 1.7-1.9 inch.
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my grown out tank is 2.5ft. the growth rate? depends how many it eat lo.. eat more = faster big.
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post Sep 23 2011, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(byakuya8283 @ Sep 23 2011, 10:50 PM)
today im so happy cuz my first try breeding betta success...now got many babies betta hahahhahahahhahah..so tiny
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congrats.. good luck on raising them..
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post Sep 24 2011, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(byakuya8283 @ Sep 24 2011, 12:36 AM)
good what d best food for them
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erm, u can try microworm for the fries when they r free swimming.. then switch to bbs then daphnia then chopped tubifex/bloodworm.

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