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iBenQ
post Feb 6 2009, 08:03 AM

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TRUE > CCF.... dun just trust frostytech biggrin.gif... which heatsink has larger heatspread area and bigger heatpipes of cos owns biggrin.gif
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post Feb 13 2009, 06:56 AM

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wanna reli test da cooler's efficiency, just use it on a quad and stress test the cpu... dual core aint gonna suck out the maximum performance of da cooler as easily as a quad
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post Mar 3 2009, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 3 2009, 01:51 PM)
hmm.....aint that sunbeam CCF is the best now?....and there's TITAN FENRIR recently that just defeated sunbeam CCF (i refered to frostytech)
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CCF is a lol... those that buy CCF are mostly tricked by frostytech HAHAHAHAHAHA
they are happy that their CCF cools their Core2Duo ALOT, try running them on quaddies and i7 at high voltage and speed c la

there was a user last time using q9450 @ 4ghz, he used ccf, and guess what's his temp, 88c during load...
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post Mar 3 2009, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 3 2009, 04:59 PM)
TRUE is definitely the best for i7. I've used CCF and just changed to TRUE120. The temp difference between those two are huge. Here are the proofs. All the tests were done in a control environment where the aircond temperature was set to 23C in a closed 8 x 10 ft room and the ambient temperature was 25C (taken from my Raytek hand held temperature probe, model Raynger ST2L ).  Both HSFs were applied with Tuniq TX2. Prim95 9 (small fft) was used to make all 4 cores of the i7 load to 100%. All the temps were taken after running prime95 for an hour. I took the maximum value temp readings monitored by Real Temp 3.0. I didn't bother to take the idle temperatures for all the cores as the 100% load temperatures across all the 4 cores were the objective in these tests. In addtion I also ran LinX 0.5.6 as this application produce more heat than prime95.

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From the summary above running LinX, TRUE beats CCF in average of 7.5C.

Conclusion, I was a fool on believing frostytech. I should have bought TRUE120 in the first place.
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that TRUE is likely not yet lapped... try lapping it and see, the difference will be even more biggrin.gif
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post Mar 4 2009, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 3 2009, 06:14 PM)
yup, indeed ccf couldnt handle i7 and those quad cores proc but for now CCF is still a worth buying HSF. for price vs performance, CCF and other HSF like xigmatek is still one of the best option for budget user. it comes with a reasonable cfm fan unlike TRUE. TRUE is certainly still a champ but with a hefty price tag. not to mention CCF comes with tx2 and a fan controller.

in the end, its up to the budget of the user. the more budget u have the more choices you have smile.gif
thanks for the brief and informative review bro. looks like CCF is totally out of the league when its comes to i7 wink.gif
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to me, price/performance does not apply in heatsinks... i want the best of the best biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 3 2009, 10:58 PM)
well...i think thats the weakness of HDT based heatpipes as the contact area is not that evenly spread as compared to TRUE.

so if we use a quadcore ...prolly not all the heatpipes were in contact with the core...thus bad temperature reading....unlike TRUE where it actually covers the entire surface of the processor

however no doubt the CCF did perform better on a dual core

besides i also notice that HDT type heatsinks tent to idle at rather high temps as well (maybe due to the behavior of the heatpipes) as compared to my arctic freezer7

**nyways..if not because of my leaking pump...i would have gone watercooling already... vmad.gif been patching that stupid aquarium pump for the whole day as silicone tends to take a long time to cure properly cry.gif **
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hdt is actually better than TRUE's design... TRUE, or most thermalright coolers, ARENT flat... dats y people resort to lapping it... google it and u will c, many complain TRUE didn't do a good finishing job on the base... but jz imagine, TRUE not yet lapped oredi pwn ccf, wat more when its lapped biggrin.gif

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post Mar 4 2009, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 4 2009, 07:20 PM)
iinm there is a reason behind the base of TR heatsink. some claim its to fit the shape of the proc IHS. if u notice, proc IHS is not flat either. but im not sure whether its proven or not

and iirc, lapped and un-lapped TRUE results doesnt differ much smile.gif
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from the looks of the thermal paste after removing the heatsink, its easily said that the heatsink isnt "curved" enough to have a high pressure on every part of the proc.... aka, contact aint that good biggrin.gif
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post Mar 26 2009, 04:58 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Mar 26 2009, 02:46 AM)
Are you guys really serious about these 90cfm CM fans doing such a great job? smile.gif I'll have everything in my Cosmos replace with it if it's true. How's the sound level like? I'm too old for buzzing fan noise.
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i'd say it does a great job as casing fans, but performs poorly as cooler fans... their air pressure is so low, it couldn't pass thru my ifx-14's fin gaps... but as exhaust casing fan, it does a great job... and yeah its quite silent... those that say its noisy is jz silent freaks... my sanyo denki fans are much noisier than this 90cfm fans...

if u dun mind a little bit noise, i'd suggest looking for some sanyo denki or panaflo fans... they're a better performer than this cm fans biggrin.gif
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post Apr 4 2009, 02:00 AM

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using cm690 with high flow fans, WITHOUT god damn filters... took me 1 month+ to notice traces of dust biggrin.gif... only place fitted with filter is the front intake... bottom and side i totally remove those filters since they were annoying and cut so much airflow biggrin.gif
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post Apr 4 2009, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 4 2009, 02:51 AM)
what i use to do is to raise the fan from the filter. go hardware shops and get some extra long screws and nuts (if u need it) smile.gif

that would do the trick biggrin.gif
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hmmm... that could work too, my solution was remove the filter hahaha, but this method works too, good for those that still wanna have filters biggrin.gif

 

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