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radkliler	Sep 3 2008, 12:13 PM Return to original view \| Post #1
WUBWUBWUB Senior Member 985 posts Joined: Oct 2006 From: Limbo	QUOTE(Quick` @ Sep 3 2008, 12:59 AM) like i said and also silencestorm88 dota has become so popular that there are rules for it...these rules are made, brought and practised by MAJORITY of the dota players around us,when ure in a game, you finished it..thats the rules of it..simple as that its hard for me to explain if u dont get what i mean,a TRUE dota player will only understand this it has nth to do with the money thing....you dont see ppl scolding/fighting in other game such as fifa/counsterstrike/rpg games...except for dota in particular,get the picture? to be honest,if i see people whacking others in DOTA with a valid reason,valid reason here means people that fail to live by the rules of dota....ill close 1 eye and and say...DAI SEI If people follows you...than the government would have a valid reason for banning all Cybercafes from ever opening again Think b4 u post
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radkliler	Sep 3 2008, 02:09 PM Return to original view \| Post #2
WUBWUBWUB Senior Member 985 posts Joined: Oct 2006 From: Limbo	There is so much fail in this post that I'm gonna dig myself into it... QUOTE(Quick` @ Sep 3 2008, 01:25 PM) no1: not everyone uses brute force....not everyone whack people like i said i dont encouraged people to whack,but if it does happen for a valid reason....i would just close 1 eye sometimes people got to learn things the hard way, it may be seen as "sometimes people have to do a lil bad to bring good thing for the others" if 1 unlucky person does get whack by a random people out there....it may serve as a reminder to those others that has similiar habit of leaving for fun,cocky in game etc etc well,i personally just ignore when people just leave game... others might whack...i dont know and i dont care back to the same old point again,you wonder understand what i mean if ure not a true dota player and you dont live by the rules....no offence,but this point no longer debatable and please,read my sentence pROPERLY b4 making your own assumptions....no hard feelings,but do read properly to avoid any form of miscommunication THANK YOU i also said in my previous post,you dont see people fight in other games like fifa/cs/cod4/etc etc BUT only in dota,but WHY?and you nv figure out about the point on the other 9 players are PAYING AS WELL in the cc to play a fun dota game....imagine every game theres a leaver,when will a player every complete a game? u can answer me?just forget it?and FRUSTRATE the other 9 just for the benefit of 1?what kind of sense is that? you dont get my point,im making my statement from a MJORITY Point of view. its like you enter a hospital bahagia...you found out that 1000 people are retard inside, and u are the only 1 that is not,now who is the retard one?my point here is...people are living by rules of dota....whether its ugly or not.people should respect it...BUT only true dota players will know how to live by the rules,a for fun seeking person would only treat it as a normal game,where they treat it like a fast food restaurant..come and go you can treat cs/fifa/cod4 like a fast food retaurant..but not DOTA,why? why people are willing to whack ONLY in dota in particular...dont get me wrong,ive nv involved myself in any fights b4 in my entire life you see people scold others NOOB,ALL THE BAD LANGUagES when people leave.WHY? must as well dont scold also? all this key questions slowly generates the answer to what ure finding for but it doesnt lead u to a direct answer...i hope u can find the answer somewhere within i dont know where u live or where u come from, that uve seen many fights,but not in my area it does happen,but not often....maybe thats why you stand up so hard for your point that i wouldnt know as for your point,yea...you have a valid point that..true dota players wouldnt leave game only new and inexperienced players would probably do so thats why i say "only with a valid reason" not everyone deserves whacking... Number one : What on earth is a valid reason for you to close one eye when people get whacked?? Seriously...if that one person was beaten just because he sucks at DotA...are u gonna beat him? If he leaves because there is a f-tard in the team that tells him to leave...are the others justified to whack him? Do you know how much negativity is involved in this? Do you realize that games has a negative image in front of parents? Are you aware of what WILL happen should this get leaked out into the public? Forget about DotA...every single game in this country will be banned thanks to the idiot who uses his fist to solve the problem. Number two : Do I see people fight over other games? Answer is yes...there was a dude that was beaten up because of a simple CS argument that can be ended without fists...but the immature fools had to do it. And the person that got whacked was killed. Long ago story, look it up. Number three :You say frustrate 9 other players because of one leaver? Have u ever think about that one player? If he is a noob, how is he going to play if he is getting blasted by his own teammates because he is a noob. Attitude problems among the teammates WILL cause him to leave and is that his fault? Its not. So should we whack him because the teammates are douchebags? Number four : Why are there no violence among other games? Thats because those that play other games realise that IT IS JUST A DAMN GAME. You won't be a millionaire playing DotA at a CC so why pick a fight. The other gamers are mature enough to know that and I can't help but wonder why are Dotards such an unusual bunch Number 5 : True DotA players? So by ur definition is that noobs are not allowed to play DotA at CCs???? What kind of idiocy is that??!?!? If u love the game, you are supposed to promote it instead of taunting noobs because they are new to the game? Only new and inexperience players will do so? Are you helping them improve themselves in any way? Swearing at them just gives them a negativity to the game. So why should they bother playing anymore since they will be berated throughout the duration of the game? -End argument-
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radkliler	Sep 4 2008, 09:39 AM Return to original view \| Post #3
WUBWUBWUB Senior Member 985 posts Joined: Oct 2006 From: Limbo	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(Quick` @ Sep 4 2008, 12:24 AM) okay obviously u nv read my post well enough,im not saying u did not..but not clear enough i nv said everyone deserves whacking..i only said "certain type of leavers" like i mentioned in my previous post the act of constantly leaving for fun....did u read this?i assume u did not since u nv mentioned anything about it. Is this sufficient to your understanding?u sound asthough ure putting words in my mouth asthough im saying everyone deserved whacking...read carefully,if you want to debate likewise. if ure serious, ill also be serious..commitement in debate,you cant blame me for that by opening this thread itself..you already mean serious discussion,dont you?otherwise u wouldnt even bother opening this thread further ellaborting about the rules,you yourself is living by the rules.....i assume ure not a leaver with the way u stand up for yourself WHY when people leave onlypeople start cursing bad words like cb,f*,noob etc etc? why dont they just ignore it,like you also said,ull be piss..its because people despise leavers and thats a fact when i mentioned "so called rules" i dont mean real written rules BUT RULES PRACTISED by majority of dota players,and thats a fact. its like a hidden rules that most of the long term dota community "pandai pandai tahu" its like in them already people practised to stay in a game till the end...thats a fact.so u get the rules which i have been stressing? if you dont know about all this,then i start to have doubts about u this im not able to answer you,ure like asking me,why isnt everyone in this world smart,why are there stupid ppl probably the best suited answer to your question is that everyone is different,everyone has different attitudes,characteristics...values thats what make us all unique sport?i believe that wasnt mentioned by me...you need not ellaborate that much as that party aka silencestorm probably has no interest in debating Added on September 4, 2008, 12:29 amsince the 1st post i made..i mentioned valid reason yes i nv deny i did mentioned that leavers should get whack,which post of mine stated that i denied?i dont mind u quoting me..for my mistake,just do it but i justify what type of leavers..or what type of act should be punished but u keep on mentioning leavers leavers leavers. leavers can be classified into so many types..i stated which typed in my previous post...read it zzzzzz ill rest my case on this,if u continue to question me w/o reading my post carefull ill give up on 2nd thought i dont think this will end,im sure ure firmly holding your stand on nobody should get whacking i differ a lil,i stress that i wouldnt mind certain retards in dota get whacked..thou i dont encourage it to happen but ill respect and acknowledge your stand...game over i damn lazy to post every 10minutes..u win lar..ive made any stand i possibly can make the rest is for u to read and decide... You just don't get it do you. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT TYPE OF LEAVER YOU ARE. NO ONE DESERVES TO BE WHACKED BECAUSE OF IT.** No ifs, hows, or buts Whacking is wrong...regardless of whether or not he leaves with/without a valid reason
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radkliler	Sep 4 2008, 04:19 PM Return to original view \| Post #4
WUBWUBWUB Senior Member 985 posts Joined: Oct 2006 From: Limbo	QUOTE(simonyw_87 @ Sep 4 2008, 02:31 PM) ya... wack ppl is bad. but depend on ur intention a small wack can teach some1 a lesson sometimes. but never with the intention of getting ppl injured . What do you intend to teach him? That violence can solve the problem? That DotA players are intolerant bastards that whack people up because they themselves are too pro to even teach a noob? Seriously....what the f***?
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radkliler	Sep 8 2008, 07:40 PM Return to original view \| Post #5
WUBWUBWUB Senior Member 985 posts Joined: Oct 2006 From: Limbo	QUOTE(sylar111 @ Sep 8 2008, 06:14 PM) Added on September 8, 2008, 6:17 pm I played star craft before and I would say that the difficulty level is not that hard. Most of the time, you are either doing rushing or you are defending your based and building higher end staff at the backend. I do not see much complications in that. *For Protoss, all you need is to build those massive ships and you win.Or you can win by rushing dark templer in . For terran, you build tanks and battleship and perhaps observer and you win.* For Zerg you have to rush because your troops are basically useless in the end. Of course there are other strategies like sending your "protos" tank(I think it is a cocoon or something) using a transportator or something. But if you are experience and you build towers, this should not happen. I agree that warcraft is hard. You have to multitask. You have to control your troops as well as your heroes. I salute warcraft players. Espacially those who can multitask. But most of us mere mortals. What we do is we will perhaps control the heroes and the troops separately. It is impossible to control all the spell casters and also the heroes seperately. I think most of the time ppl just select a few spell castors to do the things they do, control the heroes and just mass the troops to attack. It is impossible to control everything 1 by 1. So kudos to those can do that. For those 2 games,the team work required is not that much. Most of the time, it is more about individual skills. Now that I fixed ur Protoss and Terran spelling...lets start... Spam Protoss Carriers you say? Now lets figure it out....it take a large amount of time and resources to make Carriers. Not sure of exact figure but a Carrier is worth 350 minerals / 250 vespene / 8 psi. Build time is 140 seconds. But once it is manufactured, it cannot attack as it still needs to build interceptors to attack which cost 30 minerals and take 20 seconds to build. In total, it takes 590 / 250 / 8 and 300 seconds to build a carrier with 8 Interceptors (Carrier Upgrade not included). These Carriers would be easily trounced by the Zerg Scourge which has a price of 25 / 75 / 1 for 2 (Scourge hatch in pairs) and they just take 30 seconds to build. Once u add it all up, spamming Carriers against the Zerg is the worse thing you can do since the Zerg can rush you before ur squadron of Carriers are ready. Rushing Dark Templars? They are useless against the Zerg as Overlords are detector units as well. Against Terran, the Templar rush my sound feastable only if you are playing against an inexperienced player. Terran tanks and battleships? The Scourge can take out all the air units in a mere 3 waves if your air armada is of normal size. The Siege Tanks are easily defeated by Mutalisks or Guardians once all Aircraft are destroyed. Zerg weak in late game? You obviously were not exposed to Defilers, Lurkers, Devourers, Guardians and Ultralisks.
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radkliler	Sep 14 2008, 05:39 PM Return to original view \| Post #6
WUBWUBWUB Senior Member 985 posts Joined: Oct 2006 From: Limbo	And its still going strong by the looks of it... Its amazing that Fighting in a Cyber Cafe issue is a simple one to solve.. YOU JUST DON'T DO IT IN PUBLIC PLACES!!! but then again, taking in to account who we are dealing with...I expect them to give 101 reasons for : 1. But they started it 2. Because they lanci 3. Because they losing and i wan to pwn them kau-kau 4. bla bla bla bla Really fedup of those that say fighting is wrong but some of them deserve to kena whack. So if its wrong in the first place...why the hell would you whack? Because they deserve it is not a valid reaason.
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radkliler	Sep 17 2008, 11:27 AM Return to original view \| Post #7
WUBWUBWUB Senior Member 985 posts Joined: Oct 2006 From: Limbo	QUOTE(Golden @ Sep 16 2008, 09:05 PM) I thought DOTA is the only game that worth playing.... I only play games that a lot of ppl play if you know what i mean.... Tell you what. Stop playing DotA for a week and try out some other games in a CC....because I'm sure u most likely "ahemed" WC3 + TFT just for DotA
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radkliler	Oct 3 2008, 12:54 AM Return to original view \| Post #8
WUBWUBWUB Senior Member 985 posts Joined: Oct 2006 From: Limbo	QUOTE(jimbait @ Sep 28 2008, 12:52 AM) Im so angry when someone leaves.I think the leavers sould be punished,but not beating him.If im the owner of the cc,i will ban the leavers from going to my cc.Usually,the leavers will spoil the game because at first,5vs5 but when someone leaves,it would be 4vs5 and this is not fair..of course the 4 member team will lose!! for me,i keep playing although no hero kill and the sentinel/scourge has attacking my frozen throne,and the difference beetween my heroes and oppenents is 2x greater than mine. Your stupidity will cause ur CC to chaplap in less than a year if u do that...and you would lose a hell of a lot more than a leaver in a game of DotA
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