i dowan to repeat myself jor.
but looks like i have to....for the last time im gona say
i myself dont get involved in all this whacking thingy
perhaps u can ask those people that are into it,why they whack people..instead of asking me
ouch,straightforward and harsh...but then again no use u tell this to me
whether u like it or not...lets just say, some people out there who u refer them as retard prefers to use brute force when people fail to live by the rules when playing dota...thats the ugly or dark side of certain dota community and its not under my control. ull be the 1st to stop all this madness,your words here will inspire ppl to stop whacking,well i hope so...
im just explaining base on what i think,why are those particular "people" doing so
despite how much we debate here...only those that are involves can answer u "Why"

In short,it just show how immature,unethical and retarded DotA community in Malaysia.

I dont see anything good about DotA.

i guessed i didnt answer that part,yea im still considered wicked by supporting those violence
but i also said ill support if theres a real good valid reason
eg:being a countdown leaver or once the game starts he instantly leaves AND he does that again n again n again using different nicks
oh ive meet such people b4,and it aint funny 
well of course i wont whack that particular person,but if others does
ill close 1 eye

unless ure saying its a sin to support such thing in the mind..then its my bad
not like ill go.."oh hell yeah..die die die" 
not till that extend lar.
this u can call me retard or whatsoever for thinking this way

after reading posts from page 1 to here... i can see a lot of immature posts...
after seeing mah AS boyz coming into this thread... i guess i'll come in to tell u guys something...

yes... nobody has the right to bodily injure a person no matter who they are... be it leaver or noob... if u do that over a game, ur just behaving like a kid... let alone set a bad example to the younger ones...

i see someone said "certain leavers" deserved to be whacked... again let me state this...
no matter who "certain leavers" is... leavers are still leavers... they still don't deserved to be whacked over a silly game...

think of it this way... a cancer in ur body... no matter how big or how small ur cancer is... cancer is still cancer... it's a threat 2 ur body... so wat u do? u go c a doctor to remove the cancer...

and plz dun use other examples other than dota cases examples to compensate ur points... u guys are like comparing apple to orange...
if u wanna use examples... compare apple to apple...

dotards again.. dammit

I nearly got into a fight once because of a few dotards aka retards. At that time, I was using doom. I dun think i really played in a noobish manner. But that idiot Gondar was already making trouble for me.

First of all, for one of the enemies, I level that hero and then doom that hero. At that time Gondar was chasing. But he did not managed to get the kill so he mock me by saying i should doom and level. He said want to teach me woh. I was thinking wat the , what is the difference between using a difference sequence. The overall effect is the same. But I just kept quiet because I know I do not want to stir too much emotion.

After that when chasing the enemy, I did not have enough mana to level that enemy, so I just chased after him because my mana was regenerating and i know i can level him. At that time Gondar was chasing as well. Gondar failed to kill and straight away he said that I am a noob because i did not cast my death fast enough. I told him straight away that I do not have the mana to cast at that time. After that we gang bang the enemy and I got a kill by casting death. I told them I am not so noob after all rite. I dun think i am being lansi for doing that. But I dun know why those gang took what i say by heart.

From now onwards, they keep on mocking me. When someone happen to gang bang me, they will say that I am a pro. But anyway we were pawning the opponent like hell. One of the team left because his side was closing so it was 4 vs 5. In the end we all lost because of numerical disadvantages in the end, but they started calling me noob and such. I was like what the. We lost the game 4 vs 5. We had a go at them and actually nearly won even 4 vs 5 and now you still want to insult me. I did not lanci. All I said was that I am not a noob because the other person was insulting me Anyway, I join other game and when 1 of those idiots join that game, call me a f***** noob and a f*****Korean because i used a Korean nick. Another of that so call gang join the game and started insulting me. He said that he is going to pawn me. I just kept quiet. I know that he is angry for "some"reason. When another person j oin at my side, ask me to get kick but I asked him back why he want to kick me. That guy i played with just throw words at me and said you should get kick because you are noobish. I then asked him why is he so angry with me. I did not insult him in anyway. Why must you be so pissed at me. Then he just say that talk too much. I told him that the reason why I said that I am not a noob is because that other person told me that I am a noob. Why do you need to get so upset with me. Then he just throw all kinds of profanities at me. I got upset and I insulted him by saying that do you have a proper job? The way you insulted me over a Dota game shows that you do not have a proper job. Then he said i know where you sit. If you are brave enough, remain at where you sit. I did not want to just leave like that because I feared for my life. I dun know what this idiot will do to me if i just leave.I do not want to cause a fight so I ask him why are you so upset with me. I did not do anything to insult you. Can you tell me what exactly I did to insult you. Then he just keep on saying do you want to fight. If want to fight come out and fight la. Then the other people also were saying that we should settle this outside and not continue here. So in the end I said no and just kept quiet while this idiot was being hypocritical and saying that he wanted to play peacefully and i was causing trouble for him.

I wanted to leave halfway in this game but seeing a psycho there, i rather not because it would give him to excuse to whack me up. After I finish the game, I waited for a few minutes, and leave after that because i really do not want to get hurt in anyway.

This is the experience that I want to share with you guys.

simon, leave him alone already, if we really should discuss about leavers in dota, why not someone create a new debate thread about "Leave a dota game. Right or wrong?" We'll carry our debates there. Talking about leavers in this topic is already going off-topic, and arguing with people who thinks there's nothing wrong when doing something wrong, sigh~

Excuse me, can you highlight which part of my posts did i mention that i support violence? I've already said many times, violence is wrong, so is leaving a dota game. Violence is LEGALLY wrong, and leaving a dota game is ETHICALLY wrong. I did not say a leaver should be punished by violence means, but he should be punished in any other way EXCEPT VIOLENCE. I also want to make it clear that there are people who could not control their emotions, thus can easily resort to using violence against other people. As we know these kind of people exists everywhere, why the hell should we do anything that can potentially enrage them? Is it for ego? Is it because of "Oh, I'm LEGALLY RIGHT, whatever I do, is none of anyone's business, even if it's downright annoying!" That's just plain egoist and stupidity. Even if you know law is on your side, that doesn't mean you should do anything to 'taunt' them. Humans are social creatures, what is the right thing to do isn't only limited under written laws. There are a lot of unwritten laws that we should follow. A guy should not love more than 1 woman at the same time, it's not a written law, but everyone knows it's right! It's one of the ETHICS in relationship. Gosh! 

Okay, let's just simulate a scenario, again let me clarify, I do not support violence, please read. Here's the scenario: You join a dota game with 9 strangers as usual. One of your opponent/teammate is sitting right next to you. Let's just say that guy is a retard, someone that likes to use violence to solve problems, and is not afraid of the cops. As he sees you join the game, he suddenly speaks to you, "Hey kid, do not ever leave this game, or I'll beat you for real. Got that?" What's so difficult about not leaving a game? Anyone can easily finish a game without leaving. Unless you really want to challenge the guy by thinking 'So what? I like to leave the game. I pay for this, I want to leave as I wish, and even if I want to leave just to annoy the hell out of you, so what?'. If you have a mindset like this, I feel sorry for you, your ego is so full that it will backfire on you someday, somehow.

Yeah, chances are you get beaten up first, because I've said he's not afraid of the cops and he's a retard. Why do you want to challenge a retard.

Talking about ban list, it reminds me of ban lists created for leavers and players that don't obey to the game's 'unwritten' rules. Perhaps you should tell the leavers, "You want DotA to be the new game added to the ban list?"

It's not up to me to decide how to punish them. Even if nobody can think of any, does that mean they can leave as they wish?

suck it up, move on

you see you can't stop people to play dota, that's the problem playing in LAN games, unless you're playing in private game that's different story

let's say this new guy wants to learn about dota (prolly might be a pro in future who know), he got no PC at house to train with AIs, so what would you expect from him ? he prolly will get himself pawn so badly untill he can't learn a shit, trust me 90% of you guys would do the same to leave the game as well when you guys first started this game, most people are just just being typical hypocrite that's why, cheers

don't be bullshit by saying "yeah i'll go to CC and play with AI", that's just 10%

erm.... is caning consider violent for you?
cos its also physically hurting someone body
i know u cant compare caning wif leavers cos those people that got caning did something awfully wrong
but if your question is does violence teach people a lesson
mayb that is the closest example i can give

and....i never heard people got whack  in cc .
jus fighting