ZZZ...

I guess you misunderstood my statement.

I said, you can capture the thief, but you cannot wack him AFTER YOU CAPTURED HIM.

If you happen to beat him, hit him with anything in order to:
1, Capture him
2, getting back your stuff
3, Defending yourself.

It's legal.


However, after he is being captured (being tied up or something).

If you beat him, you will get sued for injured people.
If you killed him... sorry, you will get sued for murder.

But what you wrote earlier realy means otherwise......

Yes ... of course i would say after he is captured ... you shouldnt wack him ..

1st... he already capture ... still wack him for what =.=
2nd ... you get sued for that ...


But after i saw your this reply ... i dont get how you gonna relate this to the topic we discussing now....

Hm...

Well, just want to emphasize wacking people is bad...

hehe ..... i like it when people change thier mind after an arguement ^^

refers to the 2nd group .
cos is SOME ppl, and not ALL leavers

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Added on September 4, 2008, 2:35 pmya... wack ppl is bad.

but depend on ur intention

a small wack can teach some1 a lesson sometimes.

but never with the intention of getting ppl injured .

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Added on September 4, 2008, 2:37 pmo....then sory then.
misunderstood u.


This post has been edited by simonyw_87: Sep 4 2008, 02:37 PM

EH WAIT .... simonyw_87 and shadow_0 ... is 2 differnet FELLOW

Which means .. Ive been combining both Quotes to became 1 !!!! ... no wonder i got mixed up later than ....

sorry shadow_0 ... wasnt aware of that =.=

lol

That's explains...

after reading posts from page 1 to here... i can see a lot of immature posts...
after seeing mah AS boyz coming into this thread... i guess i'll come in to tell u guys something...

yes... nobody has the right to bodily injure a person no matter who they are... be it leaver or noob... if u do that over a game, ur just behaving like a kid... let alone set a bad example to the younger ones...

i see someone said "certain leavers" deserved to be whacked... again let me state this...
no matter who "certain leavers" is... leavers are still leavers... they still don't deserved to be whacked over a silly game...

think of it this way... a cancer in ur body... no matter how big or how small ur cancer is... cancer is still cancer... it's a threat 2 ur body... so wat u do? u go c a doctor to remove the cancer...

and plz dun use other examples other than dota cases examples to compensate ur points... u guys are like comparing apple to orange...
if u wanna use examples... compare apple to apple...

Mr. simonyw_87 .... your kidding right??? tell me you were joking since from the start of your 1st post here ....
because the more i read .... the more it doesnt make sence .....



So .. you trying to say Wack people is bad ... but at the same time

you agree that some people really dserve to be wack .... so which means you like to be bad right???



And another thing .... a small wack can teach some1 a lesson ... but never with the intention of getting people injured.... ARE YOU SHITTING ME???

1st of all WHAT LESSON??? You wack him up and tell him "YOU BETTER DONT BE NOOB FEEDER next TIME!!"???? so the next time he will becomes a pro ????

And ... never with the intention of getting people injured??? You seriously ok anot????

According to what youve said .... the scene would most probably be like this

Wacker : "Leave game is bad bad... Koh Koh must teach you a lesson k?? give u a pat pat in the butt....."


Seriously ... What kind of wack that doesnt injured you ....

only kids will compare deserve to be whack dota leavers with thieves lulz

man,it's just a game...it is damn stupid if u get whack get bcoz of playing a game man..if that happens,the game should be ban to avoid any more trouble..u see,if a game can make people fight,then what is going to happen to this world..they are just unethical and don't have respect for others..common guys,it's just a game..have some moral and educate ur self guys..a game should be game to be played by everyone with their own whatsoever...stupid game !!!

What do you intend to teach him? That violence can solve the problem? That DotA players are intolerant bastards that whack people up because they themselves are too pro to even teach a noob?

Seriously....what the f***?

i made my conclusion d.
call me supporter of violence or anything
i stick on my decision that i wouldnt mind,but i dont encourage
certain retards in dota community to get whack
but host and radkiller doesnt agree, they stress on no whack means no whack regardless of anything
thats fine,ill respect that....need not argue nor debate no more
the discussion here will lead to no where.
not like the discussion here will stop the community to stop fighting
as for the new-comers in this thread..chilaks,discuss steadily

ok...when i say some people deserve to be wack.
i dont means leavers k,dun get me wrong
i say i somehow agree that some people really dai sei and deserve to be wack.


and i belive cc fight is not like 1 person go find the leaver n wack.
mostly is 2 group of people they argue so much is match then 2 ppl fight
who so free go cari gaduh ?

topic start when we say ppl fight in cc. for diff reason. being leavers mayb 1 of the reason.
but later is a debate where izit leavers deserve to be wack??

but...
have u all experience some people that make you feel that you wanna wack him? but u dint ?
juz that if he gets wack by other ppl . i wont pity him n say he is dai sei.

mayb u all are lucky that people around you all are very nice people.

really duno how to say to you all la.

This post has been edited by simonyw_87: Sep 4 2008, 07:33 PM

Yeah,it's just show that how immature Dotards are.

There is no reason to beat someone up for a game.

It's just a damn game.Why so serious?

If that guy has attitude problem,just make sure that he dont play with you next time.Dont have to resort to violence.

Lolz. Looks like this thread is becoming more serious and serious.

If people leave, just accept the fact and carry on the game or suggest to remake.

By whacking people you'll only get yourself embarrass only.
Somemore higher possibility to get police involve.

Fed up with leavers? Change to other games. Don't get too serious till fight.

k guys... seriously u all need to chill...
jus ignore those who supports violence...
it's pointless to preach to them bcos they r just as stubborn as a mule...

let them do what they like... bcos at the end of the day they'll reap what they sow...

I feel free.

There are 2 parties: The Whacker, and The Leaver.

1st NO-NO: Whacker must not whack, whatever reason it is, it's wrong to start a fight. Unable to control your emotion is not a reason, it's an excuse.

Since the Whacker has such an obvious wrongdoing, he doesn't deserve any debate. He is wrong.

Now comes to the 2nd NO-NO: Leaver should not leave. Why?

1) If you sucked and losing the game, deal with it. You don't learn if you leave like that. Grow up and get matured.

2) If you sucked and your team is cursing you, deal with it. Live with the fact that you sucked, else train more, and you don't train yourself how to leave a game just because you sucked. Again, grow up and get matured.

3) You don't care if others pay to play, then you have to accept the fact that others don't care you pay to play too. So who's paying to play is not a reason to argue about.Remember this.

4) I don't agree with some who said that it's just a game, don't be serious. You don't generalize that quote to every game. Unless you're playing against the AI or 'The-Most-Not-Serious-Player-Wins' sort of game, you should be serious. Serious in terms of sportsmanship, not personal. By not having a serious sportsmanship mindset, it's a disrespect to others and a disgrace to yourself. Take an example in a football match, a player can be serious in tackling another player or serious in tackling the ball. It made the difference between getting a successful tackle or getting a red card.

5) If you really have an emergency, which I don't buy it at all because it's the rarest of reason, you've to figured out a way to leave properly, and not just leave like that. Find someone who's standing or not playing around you, kindly ask them to take your place as you've paid for it. I'm sure there is always someone who's willing to play. If he leaves after you, that's another case.

6) And finally, if you are on pre-paid game and your time is almost up, do not, I REPEAT, DO NOT join a multiplayer game. This reflects your ability to think as a matured person and not just some 'ah-who-cares? spoiled kid'. Either you topup your pre-paid to finish a game that you joined, or don't join at all. Do something else. Not realizing about that your time's up means you have time-management issue, it's not a reason, it's an excuse.

Maturity is what separates true-gamers from noob-losers. Not skills, not levels.

how nice if everyone practices your "No No Leaver"
but thats like impossible

Not everyone can practices. That's correct. That's why we have matured gamers and noob gamers.