I cant hide but admit that antz presumption does achieve some degree of understanding. BUT shhh...
Can u imagine u can buy 3 ahem dvds for 1 original one? Who wouldnt want to and yet there arent much difference in PQ rite?? Correct me if I'm wrong....

So, u mean region 2 & 4 are the best in picture details? But then, are we going to look out for these region codes when choosing dvd movies eventhough they are not the favourite movies we are looking for, huh?

~ Do u mean I cant really enjoy the true DTS sound by playing ahem dvd evethough it is copied from blu-ray disc?
I have watched ALIEN 4 on BD copied disc but seems cant hear any surround sound although the front 3 speakers keep pounding. Have anyone watched this movie through original dvd or blu-ray disc ? Did you get the surround effect ?

I am hoping u guys dont get the surround effect too from blu-ray disc, if not, I really have to dig my pocket for the hardcore blu-ray disc later....... ??

Is it true Alien 4 hasnt come out on BD? How come the ahem dvd packaging printed like blu-ray cover?? I can do another checking, if it is truly BD copied disc, it should have the shinning blu-ray logo poping out immediately the dvd is being played rite? If not, I will go back the ahem store & screw them kau kau

My previous BD copied bought dvd do pump up the rear speakers beautifully in stereo mode. But with this entire movie, they sound as quiet.

OH yeah, maybe one fine day I will be poisoned by all of you into blu-ray world. So sad about the ahem BD copied dvd. But some of them are quite good and this is what really needed in this thread of talking about upscaling dvd players. If not, these upscaler dvd will die off soon.

Fankly speaking I am still waiting the BD player price to go down. Now, the Panny BD player, forgot which model but claimed to be 5 star rating is now selling a RM1,999.00 plus 5 free BD discs. The salesman claimed it will go down further !!!

Yeah this is dvd upscaler thread. You are all posioned not so high-tec ppl here more hunger than ever to try get a BD soon....like me
I am still reading & studying all your posts pertaining in chossing BD player, AVR, 7.1 speakers & so on before investing.

At the meantime, I have tested out ahem BD copied disc especially movie like Alien 4. One thing for sure they are all dvd 9 as the disc space reads 7.90GB which is way surpassed the standard 4.30GB. I still rate their PQ highly if using upscaler dvd but it also depends on various screen shot. If most of the movies scene under dark ambience then not much comparison. I have watched a BD movie displayed by Speedy using Sharp LCD and Sharp Blu-ray player playing a darker scene, the result not much comparison with ahem dvd. I am wondering hey they are even using blu-ray source. Maybe some movies look dull too.

I thought once you owned a BD player, u will never ever turn back to DVDP anymore. Curious why are u searching for one ?

Anyway, if u do watch dvd, what kind of dvd u will buy, original? Ahem dvd9? Ahem BD copied dvd? Which one is your ultimate collection?

I think it is your panny plasma doing the good job rather than the player. I have mine PV8 routed to Sony DVP708 and the result is very appealing too. I think all these HDMI players are not much in comparison in terms of their PQ. I am wondering why we need the Viera Link. I can get my Sony remote to learn from the Panny certain functions like tv on/ff, volume control & switching input. I think these are what we need before we load the movie rite? unless we like to play for settings each time we watch a movie.....

Guys I am also confused now the market selling the ahem BD copied dvd for standard 2 prices, the one with thicker packaging sells at RM12 while the normal simple cover sells at RM15. The salesgirl says RM15 are copied directly from blu-ray. But then why they both have the blu-ray logo on top?? And the price are different?? I checked other store is selling the same 2 prices for 2 different packaging.

Anyone can help on this issue?? Appreciated.

Hi guys,
Seems like there are lots of talking about Pioneer HDMI player, especially DV610. How does it compare to Sony 708 in terms of PQ and AQ ?? Some of my friends say they make no difference, only the price are different for both units, true ? *_*

ya you are right..
but convenience is always customer concern..that's only one of the concern, biggest of mine..
of course not only USB concern, there are few more

A) SACD and Audio DVD support which cannot found in SONY 708 or PHILIP 5996
B) Optical out, analog 5.1 out, and also ......out (forgot)
C) Picture quality of course...Pioneer has on upper hand for the picture quality as always in the audio video thing
D) Sound quality (also Pioneer advantage)
and a few more...

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Most important thing is its sensitivity level in reading discs. Of course if your source are all original not much of problem. But when comes to ahem one, be warned. Some branded model players encounter problem of jump track during playback.

One question for all sifus,

If my HDMI DVD player routed to AVR Surround using both HDMI & Optical cable, what do you think the avr would pick the audio signal, from HDMI or Optical??

Is there any difference in AQ between Optical & HDMI cable since both of them are carrying digital signal? Forget the loseless audio aspect.



Thanks.

Hey guys,

Since you all are into HDMI dvd player, may I know what are your current dvd collection, Original or Ahem?

There are few types of the latter or so called superbit dvd. They are ripped from BD and PQ wise is comparable to original but better than D9.

BD ripped ahem dvd also have few types, one is with similar BD box packing, one with just cover paper and also another with thick cover paper. They are sold at around RM13. Which one do you think yields the best picture??

In my hometown, there are 3 types. First is thick paperbox D9 copied from Original DVD. Second is one cover paper D9 ripped from BD, and third is with blue plastic casing. The 2nd and last are the same quality, only one with plastic casing.

For PQ, I do agreed that some of these BD ripped D9 yield clearer picture compare to original dvd which cost much expensive! Therefore, most of my collection are these D9. Someone can comment further why is it better PQ than original, maybe like overfloe said, bitrates superiority?

As for SQ, have you guys noticed, the DTS Surround format in ahem D9 do not always generate better sound, although most of the time it is. For example, recently I bought Hell Boy II, normally I will choose DTS format, but during the movie, I switched to Dolby 5.1 and immediately, the sound becomes louder with clearer surround. I have experienced in some other movies of my collection. So, everytime when I watch a D9, I will make it a habit to do comparison between the 2 surround formats first before finishing the entire movie and later finds that I am not getting the best sound format out of the disc.

So, ar188, do you always set to DD 5.1 when watching BD ripped D9? Or switch to DTS surround?


How do I get the real DTS surround format? By buying the Original dvd?

Where to get DVD region 1 other than from Speedy.

I bought 1 ori dvd from speedy, stated DTS at the back but when played it, it is only English 2 channels. So disappioooooonting. What a crap dvd they sold. Charging thrice the ahem D9. I still think the BD ripped D9 sound is better than some of the Ori from Speedy.

Then sifus,

Tell me where to get good quality, region 1 original dvd with real DTS format??

So far, ahem BD ripped are considered quite good. PQ & AQ are so much improved.

Hey guys,

Have anyone of you ordered using First Class International for dvd from US like ebay or amazon? Is this service reliable & how long will it takes to reach M'sia?

Thanks

Are you sure is 4 days using First Class International? Then, how 'bout Priority Mail, should be even quicker as this service is the most expensive one.....?

Well, 2 simple Rule of Thumbs when buying ahem dvd:

i) Buy those selling above RM10, probably RM12 onwards. Avoid those cheap scale dvd like RM6. They are just D5.

ii) Buy those with blue casing, similar to BD casing. They are either ripped from BD or from original dvd.

By following these 2 basic rules, the chances of you getting high PQ & AQ is more than 95%....