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getalong6165
post Jun 15 2023, 05:45 PM

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Just yesterday my 3 blade kdk regulator ceiling fan stopped working. Fan used for just more than 1 year daily.

Changed the capacitor but not working.

I turned the regulator knob and there is some twitching at the capacitor / rod but the fan won't just turn on.

Plus when I turn the knob there is some voltage sound from the regulator.

Anyone have any idea whats the issue ?
getalong6165
post Jun 18 2023, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(keanutan @ Jun 15 2023, 11:59 PM)
Bypass regulator to test
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Do you have any YouTube tutorials ?

Found online mostly mentioned bypass remote ceiling fans instead of regulator fans though
getalong6165
post Jun 18 2023, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Jun 18 2023, 08:09 PM)
Bypass regulator is easy, just join the two cable from wall at the regulator.
Ur fan should spin full speed.
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Sorry, is it like this ? Basically just get both the wires from the wall to tie together either with connector or wire to wire directly?

Else tomorrow i might have to remove the fan and see if its the thermal fuse issue which i googled might also be a sign of fan unable to turn on / spin



EDIT :

or can i just touch the live wire like in this above video mark 8.27 , albeit more dangerous , lazy but faster way biggrin.gif i think i'll just go with the 1st video i shared, connect via connector then on back the MCB to test it out

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getalong6165
post Jun 19 2023, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Max @ Jun 19 2023, 10:03 AM)
well, depends on ur skill and if u r comfortable 'playing' with electrical..  biggrin.gif
1st method much safer.. wont accidently touch the live wire there..
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Not comfortable, but will close all MCB first since previously change own led lights driver i also off the MCB.
Better to be safe than sorry.
Will try it out later.

But if after bypass the regulator and the fan spins, what would be the issue which needs attention ? Replace the regulator ?

And if the fan wont spin after bypass regulator, means thermal fuse need replacement ?
getalong6165
post Jun 19 2023, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Jun 19 2023, 11:27 AM)
if bypass regulator, fan spin full speed, then just get new regulator.
if not, might be capacitor at the motor.. else, might be thermal fuse (usually this is rare case) and very difficult to replaced. unless u can do electronics and handle small copper enamel coil at motor, the fuse usually buried abit inside the coils windings.
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Bypassed but fan not working still. After i off the MCB, the blue wire still live when i poke it with a test pen but the black one wasnt.

The capacitor was the 1st thing i changed when the fan was not working.

Edit : occasionally i keep twisting the regulator knob, i noticed the capacitor twitch abit. Presume a little electricity was delivered into the fan but the fan didnt moved at all.

Safe to say its thermal fuse issue ?

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post Jun 23 2023, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Max @ Jun 20 2023, 10:29 AM)
not sure.
u need to do troubleshooting on the fan motor itself.
check thermal fuse continuity, coil winding continuity/resistance.
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Didnt have the capacity to troubleshoot, so i gave a nearby electrical repair shop a call.

Mentioned that after change capacitor nor bypass the regulator the fan also won't work / spin. He mentioned cannot be fix and most likely motor is burn after getting lighting strike or short circuit etc. Told him am staying in condo, he said doesn't matter.

Just brush me off by saying not worth to fix, just replace it whole blush.gif
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post Jun 23 2023, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 23 2023, 11:13 AM)
Actually if those 3 blades with regulator, if no capacitor to try, can just bypass the capacitor (cut off the capacitor and connect both wires end together) and then spin the fan manually using a broom. If kept going means is capacitor rosak since it is the only thing you removed from the circuit. Capacitor is just there to start the fan spinning.
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but I already replaced the capacitor with a new one. Fan's not working / spinning at all still.
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post Jun 25 2023, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Jun 20 2023, 10:29 AM)
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 23 2023, 11:13 AM)
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At the end i just bought another same model and replace the whole damn fan itself than continue check out whats the issue.

 

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