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basher
post Dec 1 2008, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(IIIaZer @ Dec 1 2008, 03:58 PM)
so any comment on Amax... i believe lots of people here eager to hear it.
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I cannot access their website. Did they forget to pay domain name? http://amax.my go to Leadingside Sdn Bhd! This is embarrasing if they lose something important such as their domain name!!!
basher
post Dec 1 2008, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(IIIaZer @ Dec 1 2008, 05:25 PM)
bro think u miss out the "www" .  http://www.amax.my/

but anyway their website is down...  sweat.gif
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If AMAX is serious about promoting their service, it doesn't give me a good impression if their website is down or the domain is taken over by someone else. With or without www, it belongs to 1 owner right? Do you see lowyat.net without www going somewhere else? This makes me think twice whether to subscribe to a service which can't even keep their website up. If it takes so long to fix their website, what more to say when I face problems with them. hmm.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(virtualbil @ Dec 2 2008, 08:08 AM)
i do some research and found this, http://www.asiaspace.com.my/towers.htm
it list asiaspace tower(amax),

i dont think asiaspace is new company, only its amax service is.
i also found this, http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...25&sec=business
RM500m!!!!!
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I don't think that is about wimax towers. Look at the date, 2001. I belief those are mobile towers constructed for Maxis and other telco.


Added on December 2, 2008, 3:25 pm
QUOTE(RickRock @ Dec 2 2008, 10:47 AM)
How long do you guys need to check on the resident address? I PM my address to you for almost 1week by still no answer.  sad.gif
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I doubt they are offering those coverage as promise. Imagine if you spent so called millions on setting up wimax, don't you want to start selling aggressively to get back your invested money? I don't see them on the ground at all. It is just another publicity to show MCMC that they are doing something and they are on track.

This post has been edited by basher: Dec 2 2008, 03:25 PM
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post Jan 20 2009, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(@DUOCORE @ Jan 17 2009, 04:42 PM)
As for amax, if you look at www.asiaspace.com.my they have started as the backbone for infrastructre for telco towers. So in terms of building towers we are so ahead. even our towers are leased to digi and maxis. i think soon P1 would have to rent towers from us to provide signals for their subsribers. Now that would be a laugh smile.gif
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What is the relation of building telco towers with providing WiMAX coverage? You can't even roll out properly at all. What's a laugh is that if AMAX claim to set up all the towers around the country, why is taking them so long to blanket WiMAX all over?

Even AMAX claim of covering the entire Klang Valley by 2008 is a laugh. Do you know how long does it take for Celcom, Maxis and Digi to cover Klang Valley? With ZERO visibility in the market, I wonder how would AMAX recoup their investment if there is any into the project.

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post Jan 28 2009, 12:56 PM

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Fully agree with p4n6. I don't quite understand what Mr. Klodence is trying to tell us.

As a consumer, I don't give a hoot if the company is local or by some mat salleh. Most important is what do I as a consumer is getting.

Government awarded 4 companies wimax rights but so far I only see 1 that is visible in the market. What happen to AMAX? I believe if there are minimum of 2 wimax company in the market, we sure be able to see some benefits. Today I see Green Packet is the only wimax company to be able to provide service efficiently in the market.

I may not know all the RF Engineering things but I can see that Green Packet is rolling our wimax faster. What is there for AMAX to show today? Why aren't they covering whole KLANG VALLEY? You must be joking if you say Digi, Celcom and maxis able to cover whole Klang Valley in 1 year. How many % is that? Maybe your standard of whole KLANG VALLEY is just 1 station in KL and Klang each. Haha. When I mean whole, I mean all populated areas like handphone nowadays.

QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jan 24 2009, 11:49 PM)
Hi Klodence, as you may need to understand, the founder and current group CEO of Green Packet is a Malaysian. If you go thru their annual report and company profile, all their board of directors are also Malaysians. Where are all the Americanos?

Yes, Green Packet is founded in USA but its HQ and operations are in Malaysia.

It makes sense for company to want to be listed in the USA, Shanghai or HK due to its high volume of transactions per day, but why a company wants to be listed in Malaysia?

It really depends how you want to see whether the company is a Malaysian company or foreign company ... solely by where it's founded or the major operation?


Added on January 25, 2009, 12:35 am

1. I fully agree with you that AMAX transmission cost will be cheaper as they own a lot of towers. Our previous comment is that ... why AMAX roll out still so slow despite they have all the towers for transmission? Why those that have problem to getting transmission still can go faster than those who already have all the towers ready? That's the first assumption we made that probably AMAX doesn't have the money to buy basestations to roll out. So having towers also won't serve any purpose. If you are with AMAX, maybe you can clarify this point.

You claim that you know RF planning and ask Mr Basher to check books from MPH, then why P1 can go faster than AMAX in term of rollout? AMAX has MoU with TM, Fiberails and alot of transmission towers ... so ... speedwise still slower? Are you saying AMAX RF Planning team are less competent as compared to P1?

2. As the previous post mentions, the forumer mentions "we should support AMAX because it's local company", my feedback is that "to the customer, the service quality is the concern but not the origin of the company". I never justify that AMAX quality is bad. So don't be so sensitive.

3. I have mentioned in previous post that GPACKET main HQ and operation is in Malaysia as well as of the founder and group CEO, and board of directors + major shareholders are Malaysians.

I'm sorry to say this but you are a little idiotic because Ericsson and Motorola are not public listed company in Malaysia. Just that they have company in Malaysia doesn't make them listed in Bursa. And I don't even know why you select them to be your example.

And you are right, DIGI is a local company ... any problem with that?

Do you actually understand why some companies want to get listed in US, Shanghai and HK but not in their country of origin? May I understand how often you see a foreign company (esp from US) gets listed in Bursa Malaysia?

Before you ask someone whether they do research, maybe you need to know more first. Thx.

4. AMAX signs MoU with TM and Fiberrail, is it means TM and Fiberail will provide fiber backhaul to AMAX free of charge? P1 also partnered with Fiberail, AIMS, Oracle and EMC ... so? Not that they are getting things for free. Do you know what's MoU?

5. To my understanding, I don't think YTLE will have issue with money as they have YTL behind them. YTLE would be the last to have money problem among the 4 license holders. And I also dun think they have problem getting sites, YTL is a developer, they have a lot of buildings tongue.gif. One of the reason I can think of is that maybe they don't see business case and the return doesn't serve a good value, if they throw the money into other businesses, maybe they can get more return than rolling out WiMAX. Not that they are not capable of rolling out, it's more like whether they feel it's wise to do so at the moment judging of the immature WiMAX tech. They might drop the license if there is no business case.

6. Digi and Maxis are bidding for the WiMAX license but not getting it, it's not just TM! And I don't know how the 4 companies can compare with Digi and Maxis in term of capability and roll out strategy.


Added on January 25, 2009, 12:43 am
Speedtest is irrelevant as I'm pretty sure at this initial stage the speed test will be extremely beautiful but when their subscriber increases, you will see the difference. So it's more of how they manage their bandwidth when it comes to congestion and I'm pretty sure there will be congestion as WiMAX is a wireless technology, so the bandwidth will congest even faster than wired connection. And it claims AMAX doesn't impose quota limitation (as what did by Maxis, Celcom and P1), I wonder how they manage the bandwidth.
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