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 Klasse Auto Detailing Centre, A perfectionist choice

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post Aug 19 2008, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 19 2008, 06:04 PM)
By the way, talking about carnauba waxes, I notice my car easily gets dust sticking to it. I ask them they told me carnauba attracts dust. I also read it could be due to buffing method which produces static charge.
It's sad to see dust sticking to your car next day or moments after you've wax your car....
And, I hate most is when it rains moments after or next day, there'll be dust water spots, just annoying.
The dust problem is from our dirty environment smile.gif. You can avoid it if you park your car inside a covered garage and do not drive out the car. I do face the same problem too. After just 2 hours buffing off my sealant, the car was covered with a little bit of dust. Just learn to live with it but if you can't, the safest way to remove dust is to rewash the car.




QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 19 2008, 06:04 PM)
By the way, how long does you clay your car after you've clayed?
I parked under the sun mostly, and waxed about twice a week, but I notice the surface will be contaminated after about 1 months plus.
I'll normally clay when the paint surface feels gritty/abit rough. It depends on where the car is being park/travel.

Added on August 19, 2008, 8:30 pm
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 19 2008, 11:11 AM)
My friend recommend this place too, from his result, I think it was OK, but maybe the place and condition isn't good.

Anyway, I prefer Hypercoat (Meguiars), but I haven't been to the PJ branch before. The Subang one, I'm not sure if there's any waiting room, and outside is all factory, no place to go? After detailing, would our cars be at risk driving around the factory? But from their picture results, it's really good.

Hypercoat is the official importer/distributor of Meguiar's products for Malaysia.

Ardy's detailing is the first and only in malaysia. is an authorised Meguiar's detailing center endorsed by Meguiar's USA.


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post Aug 19 2008, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 19 2008, 08:53 PM)
Wax twice a week or twice a month? You should not need to wax twice a week or even twice a month. If your car's finish does not reach the level you want, you are either using the wrong products or that your car's paint is not good enough to produce the finish that you want.

Haven't you noticed on their site that their dark coloured cars are shining? You don't want a shining dark coloured car. You don't want it to look like you have just sprayed plastic on it. You want the 'blackhole' effect, where it almost absorbs light instead of reflecting back. That is what you will get with carnauba wax and the plastic look you get with the synthetic waxes.

It's not necessary to clay all the time if you use a pre-wax treatment paint cleaner before each wax. Claying is only really necessary if the paint is really gritty, which should not be if it is maintained properly.
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Actually, proper washing and waxing method done frequently is good to preserve/maintain/safeguard your paintwork. We live in a tropical country where our rides are exposed to tremendous acid rains and environment pollutions. Other than that, there are also contaminants such as tree saps and acidic bird droppings.

The level of gloss/shine/wetlook/etc all depends on how well is your surface preparation was done. Surface preparation includes claying and several rounds of polishing. Say if you compare Car 1 with a nicely done surface prepped paintwork topped with a budget wax and Car 2 with bad surface prepped and topped with those boutique branded wax, Car 1 will look very much better than Car 2.

Different people has different levels of expectation on detailing. So it all boils to each and everyone needs. Do with what you prefer the most and do it frequently with the proper way smile.gif
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post Aug 19 2008, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 19 2008, 11:11 PM)
Yes, to claim surface preparation is important is only partially correct. Depending on the quality of the paint, even straight from the factory, the level of shine would be different. This esp holes true for the very thin and poor finishing of the clear coat on our local cars. No matter the type of prep or polish would create the kind of gloss and shine compared to one with high quality gloss.

I've seen the poor souls dishing it out trying to shine a surface that cannot be shined. It just does not work if the surface is not perfect to begin with.
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Yup, but normally we talk about paint which are work-able and not those with clear coat failures. Most of us are with OEM paints and although they are soft and thin, one still can sand/polish it nicely up to plateau. But after everything is nicely done, if there is a deep scratch/scuff mark, one won't have much paint to deal with smile.gif
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post Aug 20 2008, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Awan Afuqya @ Aug 19 2008, 11:43 PM)
Bro slk, when u wanna detail my ride  drool.gif ? It's nearly 3 weeks sitting in the workshop, and I won't be able to imagine the amount of new scratches it will have  sad.gif .
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We'll do it during the clinic. I'll check with the others to confirm the date. What happened to your car?

Added on August 20, 2008, 5:35 pm
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:30 AM)
slk,

Thanks! No choice, my office area is all open air car park.  cry.gif
Unless I bring my own car cover, but later dunno what will happen la  whistling.gif
Most car covers available in malaysia are PVC based and they may induce scratches/marring while covering/removing the cover smile.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:30 AM)
For the dust problem, it's hard for us to do "layering", even sometimes, while I was buffing off (I buff off the roof first), while I was buffing off other portion of the car, I notice dust, feathers, or somethings land and rest on my the roof already...  rclxub.gif
As I've mention earlier, the best way to remove dust is to rewash the car with a good shampoo. Then you can start your layering process.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:30 AM)
I find the paint surface gets gritty/a bit rough quite fast and easy...  rclxub.gif
Lazy to clay, but if don't clay, waxing will be hard and result won't be good... and when you touch, it's not nice.  rclxub.gif
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I have a car which is exposed 24/7. Dirt will get embedded more and quickly on that car. So I usually clay(when surface feels gritty) and then use a wax/greaser remover before applying my sealant to ensure maximum bonding between the paintwork and the sealant.

Added on August 20, 2008, 5:50 pm
QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 20 2008, 10:06 AM)
Andy,
My car is parked outside everyday too, from my apartment to the office, and yes the product will make a big difference. My wax will last about 2-3 months when I use the highest quality wax from Zymol in Autospa. Their cheaper one would last only about 1 month. Also you need to wash your car using wax safe shampoo. Most carwash center uses snow wash which is very strong and will clean out the wax in one wash.
Wow, the highest range of Zymol is the Zymol Solaris. Built by the owner for the owner. Retails at RM100k.

QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 20 2008, 10:06 AM)
In your car, I don't think it's the product or user issue. It could be your clear coat not giving you the shine that you want. Clear coat quality differs from car to car and if you can't replicate the shine from another just even if you use the same product, then the problems lies at the clear coat itself.
A normal clear coat does not have any colour to it.... The colour comes from the colour coat. So when a person does polishing to a car, the person is actually working on the clear coat. The objective here is to make the clear coat as clear and level as possible to obtain the maximum gloss/shine/wetlook. Clear coat do comes in several types - hard/soft/thin/thick.

QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 20 2008, 10:06 AM)
Here are some questions to ponder about. We have so many Protons and Peroduas on the road but have you seen any that really shines? I don't it's because they don't take care but there is really nothing they can do short of a respray. Haven't you noticed that Protons and Peroduas which has been resprayed with non-Proton colours looks great?

I've know friends and members here who wax twice a month and yet it does not have the showroom shine. It's not the product or user but the clear coat that does not shine.
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There are certain limitation to what one can get from an OEM paint and most people can only afford Protons/Peroduas. So they make do with what they have icon_rolleyes.gif

Added on August 20, 2008, 5:58 pm
QUOTE(Vanquish @ Aug 20 2008, 11:07 AM)
Sleepwalker, does AutoSpa do steam cleaning on the engine compartment? I've been looking for a place in Klang Valley where they provide this service...
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I've heard of this one place in Puchung but never got the chance to visit it. Here is the direction :

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This place is at Puchong Bandar Puteri..somewhere near to Badminton
hall(MBA)..after the new wet market(still in the construction), go straight
and you see there is a new office. When you see Hyundai turn left. then you
see kurnia(jalan 5/6) turn in left. After a few shop along that you will
see the shop on you right. The shop call Steam Shine Image.....


http://www.autoworld.com.my/forum/allposts...aning+%2D+steam

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post Aug 22 2008, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 21 2008, 09:32 AM)
slk,

Thanks for your information.

Hehe, lazy to re-wash car, then wipe dry, only apply 2nd layer.  sweat.gif  Tired, and lots of time needed, hehe
But once in a while it's ok la.  icon_rolleyes.gif

Your wax remover is paint cleaners?
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The wax remover that I'm using is the Mercury M6000. You can get it from most paint supplier shops. There is one just beside Klasse USJ1. It retails for RM2X for 5 liter. It does have some light cleaning properties to it smile.gif

Added on August 22, 2008, 2:34 pm
QUOTE(Vanquish @ Aug 21 2008, 09:46 AM)
Thanks for the info, slk... Will check out this place when I find the time... Thanks again! notworthy.gif

From the autoworld forum posts, it seems that this place in Puchong only does interior steam cleaning, they didn't mention anything about engine steam cleaning... sad.gif
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If you read carefully, the guy did mention that the shop "wash" the car using steam. Maybe you can ask them to steam your engine smile.gif. But the best way to ensure the engine is clean is to rinse/degrease/rinse/dress.

Added on August 22, 2008, 2:37 pm
QUOTE(ralf @ Aug 21 2008, 10:30 PM)
No matter my Proton won't shine after wash and polish, at every angle it looks the same. yawn.gif  sweat.gif

I like the Mercedes Iridium silver paint, and the clearcoat..it really shine although it is lighter colour.
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What kind of surface prep have you done to you car?

FYI, the CKD Mercedes PPG's paint is softer than the CBU Swift's paint smile.gif

Added on August 22, 2008, 2:39 pm
QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 22 2008, 10:45 AM)
My Waja's interior need some cleaning, same as the leather seat.. How much?
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For fabric seat/carpets/etc, Klasse has a hot water extractor to clean them. If I'm not mistaken, full interior cleaning is around RM200. Yes, they do leather cleaning/conditioning too with various Meguiar's products.

Added on August 22, 2008, 2:40 pm
QUOTE(louyeh @ Aug 22 2008, 11:56 AM)
afaik this shop isnt operating anymore. ive tried looking for the shop the last time i was in Bandar Puteri Puchong (1 month back) and couldnt manage to find it anymore.
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Thanks for the info!

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post Aug 22 2008, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 22 2008, 03:43 PM)
Meguiar’s Signature Wash & Vacuum (Meguiar's RM15)
a. Shoot high pressure air - To loosen the dirt from seats, carpets, hard to reach areas and etc.
b. Vacuum
c. Clean interior glass - Meguiar's Glass Cleaner
d. Interior protectant - Meguiar's Interior protectant for longer protection & a glossy finish(non oily)
e. Wash - Meguiar's shampoo plus
f. Shoot high pressure air
g. Wipe - Our clothes are microfiber towels that ensures a scratch free wash
h. Silicon protection
i. Tire Shine - Meguiar's Endurance Shine

I'm interested on this! but the interior protectant does it include leather seats?
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The interior protectant which is Meguiar's NXT Tech Protect will be applied to dashboard, door panels, plastic trims etc. There is a saperate charge for leather seat conditioning/cleaning. Actually, that is the cheapest Meguiar's wash with all the steps included in town. They are using the 2 bucket method too!

Added on August 22, 2008, 5:04 pm
QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Aug 22 2008, 04:03 PM)
me too wan to go but scared paiseh. all power power sports and luxury car
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Everyone is welcome at his place rite Joel?! biggrin.gif

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post Aug 24 2008, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(ralf @ Aug 22 2008, 10:30 PM)
What kind of surface prep have you done to you car?

FYI, the CKD Mercedes PPG's paint is softer than the CBU Swift's paint smile.gif

wah..Swift notworthy.gif

just a question, are you referring to the clear coat hardness or the paint?
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Normally most modern cars are equipped with Clear Coat. So when ppl talk about paint hardness, they usually refers to the clear coat.

Added on August 24, 2008, 11:31 am
QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 22 2008, 10:38 PM)
I believe he's talking about the clearcoat. If he's treating paint, the car's screwed.
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If the clear coat is sanded/polished off, then you are left with a single stage paint biggrin.gif

Added on August 24, 2008, 11:34 am
QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 22 2008, 10:39 PM)
What about the silicone protection? Do i need to make an apointment before coming?
And is there any landmark there? as i'm using my gps for my directions.
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May I know what kind of silicone protection are you refering to? Where do you need the silicone protection to be applied?

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post Aug 29 2008, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(lilseoul @ Aug 28 2008, 07:23 PM)
Klasse AIO + Klasse Sealant = RM180

We don't do re-spraying, if your not implying to that then what do you mean about new paint?
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Joel, you forgot to mention wash+clay+KAIO+KSG for RM180
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QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Aug 30 2008, 03:23 AM)
How much do you think it will cost to detail a current generation 5 series with swirl marks all over the vehicle. The paint is black. Interior and engine detailing will not be required.
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The Meguiar's Premium detail for a large sedan like the 5 Series should be around RM4XX
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post Oct 1 2008, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Sep 22 2008, 04:31 PM)
Is hypercoat same with Daikin?
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Hypercoat = Official Meguiar's Importer for Malaysia.
Daikin = A brand of Air-Conditioning products (something like Panasonic, Yoke, Hitachi, etc2)

Klasse USJ1 operates a detailing center plus supplying aircond products

Added on October 1, 2008, 7:34 pm
QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Sep 30 2008, 12:47 PM)
My second visit to Daikin. Overall it's ok. For Rm15, at least they throw in quick detailing for interior using NXT interior cleaning. Wat's more, they even throw in Endurance for tyre and Meg glass cleaner. Most of the place i went like Shinetech only wash using Meg and nothing more. It cost Rm17 there. But when u see they put one pile of concentrate liquid on the washing glove and wipe ur car with water, it look dam rich foam that it make RM17 worth the money. Raydiance uses Meg too but sadly it's snow wash type and they throw in Meg glass cleaner for the price of RM12.

I would say Daikin will be my top list if not because of the timid shampoo meg plus they use. I can see so less foam on my car and it certainly show how little they use and the mixing is kinda like lot of water with little of Meg shampoo plus. Hope they improve there. Futhermore, they advertise in their shop saying using Meg Gold Class Shampoo and conditioner but using Meg Plus.  hmm.gif  Please buck up on the ratio mixing Daikin and i will be ur loyal customer.

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Most of the quality car shampoo doesn't suds much. A good quality shampoo safely remove dirt without inflicting much swirls and doesnt strip much wax. All car shampoo does remove some amount of wax/sealant. It depends on how much is the shampoo is removing. Cheap shampoos strips alot! Meguiar's Shampoo Plus and Gold Class shampoo doesnt suds much but the lubricity is there. On your next visit, try to feel the shampoo solution with your palm. Shinetech's shampoo may suds alot but are you sure they are really using Meguiar's shampoo? I've seen with my own eyes few shops which claims that they uses Meguiar's products but they fill up some other brand products into the Meguiar's bottle.

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