Silly Quick Question:
2 Days means we have to leave the car there right?

Other question:
For 1 day, how is the waiting room and services available?

My friend recommend this place too, from his result, I think it was OK, but maybe the place and condition isn't good.

Anyway, I prefer Hypercoat (Meguiars), but I haven't been to the PJ branch before. The Subang one, I'm not sure if there's any waiting room, and outside is all factory, no place to go? After detailing, would our cars be at risk driving around the factory? But from their picture results, it's really good.

Another place is Carnauba AutoSPA, their waiting room and everything else looks great from their website, haven't been there tough. My friend recommends there, still deciding which one to go for my 1st profesional detailing
Currently all DIY, but without Rotary, it's hard/nearly impossible to remove those swirl marks, especially water marks.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Aug 19 2008, 11:12 AM

Thanks! Good to hear they're improve up their standard again.
When it's packed, must be more careful in case the workers slacks off.

You mentioned Meguiar's not as good as Autospa, in terms of? Service of Workmanship/Detailing skills/attention to detail?

From the website, Autospa seems to have profesional place and nice waiting rooms and services.

Thanks~

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Added on August 19, 2008, 4:10 pmasmly14,

I think you can try if you don't mind the place and waiting room, my friend went there before and recommends me too. The price I would say cheaper than those profesional centre; what you lose is the environment and services.
The work is not bad I would say looking at my friend's car and they would recommend you what to be done and they also let you choose the type of product and brand while explaining what it do.

I guess another option for those who are more on budget.

For those profesional centre, like Meguiar's & Autospa, go when they're having promotion, it's cheaper but might be packed.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Aug 19 2008, 04:10 PM

Hmm... wonder what's wrong with them?
From their Gallery and forums, theirs works on deep coloured car was fantastic!

By the way, talking about carnauba waxes, I notice my car easily gets dust sticking to it. I ask them they told me carnauba attracts dust. I also read it could be due to buffing method which produces static charge.
It's sad to see dust sticking to your car next day or moments after you've wax your car....
And, I hate most is when it rains moments after or next day, there'll be dust water spots, just annoying.

By the way, how long does you clay your car after you've clayed?
I parked under the sun mostly, and waxed about twice a week, but I notice the surface will be contaminated after about 1 months plus.

Which product you go for at Autospa? Zymol or Meguiars?


This post has been edited by Andy214: Aug 19 2008, 06:06 PM

Sorry, hehe, I wax twice a month, usually, most of the time (used to do it every week). I wash once a week, unless it gets dirty and I have some extra time to spare on weekdays. On non waxing days, I just apply those quick detailer.
The reason I apply it twice a month is cause I park outside under the hot sun most of the time, and to my knowledge, wax only last about 1 month, but what about our climate and the where you park?
Plus, I understand that there is a "melting" point (was it?) for wax, I'm not sure how hot our sun can get nowadays, I only know it's super duper hot nowadays.

Anyhow, for me, I "feel" the wax isn't really there anymore or at least not so much protection anymore. If there is "droppings" on the first few days after you've waxed, you could easily remove them with microber cloth.
But... after 1 week or so (maybe even less depend on the weather), I find the droppings will stick pretty hard to the surface of the car, sometimes leaving stains,

Hm... as for shining, I not sure how to describe, but I always want to get those deep gloss WET look and very smooth, but never get to achieve those with DIY, got no Rotary and/or the skills to do it.

Yea, what I meant by claying is that, after about a month plus, I notice the surface is gritty, I can feel the surface is rough and has lotsa dots feeling. It's very noticeable "feel" when you apply wax and also buffing off. Plus, the shine/gloss level will be different.
I read that claying is usually done around 3 months once, but mine is only 1 months. Is it normal, or is it because of where I park and our climate and country's condition?
Or was it the product was not good "enough" to prevent those?

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Added on August 20, 2008, 9:35 amslk,

Thanks! No choice, my office area is all open air car park.
Unless I bring my own car cover, but later dunno what will happen la

For the dust problem, it's hard for us to do "layering", even sometimes, while I was buffing off (I buff off the roof first), while I was buffing off other portion of the car, I notice dust, feathers, or somethings land and rest on my the roof already...

I find the paint surface gets gritty/a bit rough quite fast and easy...
Lazy to clay, but if don't clay, waxing will be hard and result won't be good... and when you touch, it's not nice.



This post has been edited by Andy214: Aug 20 2008, 09:35 AM

sleepwalker,

Thanks for your information. Will try and check out the Zymol products.

I'm currently using Meguiar's NXT Shampoo, used to use the Gold Class Shampoo, but was told it contains conditioner which attracts dust? So recommended to switch to NXT.

As for Shine, I think it's there but I want the deep gloss WET look that glows an smooth, something like this:
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3281

The black car looks sooo clean, smooth, wet, deep gloss. Don't know how to describe.
Mine's not black, it's diablo red, a deep dark red. For the some area, I'm able to achieve deeper wet gloss look (rear lower bumper), probably cause cause it's less exposed and much less swirls?

Anyway, will try those profesional centre and see if I can get the result I wanted. Mine has lots of swirl marks and especially water marks. Just can't remove them with ROB or hand with different types of products, probably will need the Rotary.

Yes, you're right about the clear coat quality, I think mine isn't good. Plus, I can see sort of pixels thingy if observe carefully.
I also tried on my parent's black Sentra, can't achieve anywhere near those gloss/shine that I want, even worst than my car eventough it's a black car.

slk,

Thanks for your information.

Hehe, lazy to re-wash car, then wipe dry, only apply 2nd layer. Tired, and lots of time needed, hehe
But once in a while it's ok la.

Your wax remover is paint cleaners?