Let's be clear.

There is a difference between the faculty and the course.

There's a faculty of business at university. Out of this faculty comes all the specialisations like accountancy, marketing, economics, hr etc. etc. Sometimes, these courses fall under the Arts faculty.

I am speaking specifically about the Business Administration (BA) course. To me, the BA course is simply a hodge podge potpourri of all the specialisations available in the Business (or Arts) faculty.

You mention people who specialise in marketing, market research, cutting cost, managing teams etc. Ummm... these subjects are all available from the business faculty. And accountancy, economics, banking & finance, HR etc students have the same access to them as electives or core subjects.

Anyway, you're right... this is getting off topic. But I do like a good cut & thrust discussion.

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Well, Malaysian cant work in Singapore's public sector i assume?
Private sector, sad to say that my university is not that well-known and all. My degree should b accredited though. Hope can get a little better offer or at least, better securing me the job i applying for. It'll take one year's time to complete my studies, hopefully the economy is not that bad by then. Singapore is still having recession and situation is worsening.

Something out of topic. Many people thinks that Business Admin is not professional as the field is very broad. As a BA student I can say that it is a vital function and the importance is not less than the professional. You can set up a legal firm with many experienced lawyers who can win cases, but it will still fail without good management and efficiently functioning operations such as HR, finance, account, marketing etc.

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no where did u hear tat from i've knw msians working in gov agencies MOE, SPPG, PUB, etc

[quote=cktwai,Jan 10 2009, 10:40 AM]
jack of all trades, master of none is only applied to students who are, just like you mentioned, couldnt decide their career yet (sad to say, the majority of them). But for example, there are people who specialize in marketing their product, able to do study on how to generate profit through detailed market research, effectively cutting cost, skills to manage an efficient team and all. IT, lawyers and doctors couldnt do those. to me they fit most the description of profession,which you already mention at the bolded part. no restricted membership, though. thats why one of my experienced lecturer once said business course's importance is always being overlooked. well, its just something out of topic as i mentioned earlier. we can discuss this in other thread somehow, since singapore is firing foreigners to give ways to their own people, i think they will start with the professionals rite?engineer or IT professionals?

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you should be worried if you follow whatever your lecturer says... if he's so "well versed" about all these things he won't become a lecturer...

and of course if I'm someone teaching BA, I would always tell my students the good things about it .. i wouldn't start a class by saying negative things would I ?

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walau a lec is not a profession? u r insulting a profession its jus like saying if the guy is so "well versed" in the real world issues he wont b a cleaner.
Please dont insult other professions if it wasnt for your lecturers u wont b wat u r today. if it wasnt for the cleaner the place u stay work play it would b full of shit.

i've lecturers who yes tell us tat engineering sucks during class n its the truth. they've worked in the real world and come back to educate the younger generation for watever reason i dont know whilst u r jus earning ur degree. they tell u that so that u mus hav interest in engineering to cont the course not jus to study it like a zombie. even bosses in my company i work when i joined tell me straight in the face tat the industry i join wont make me rich or famous its the interest n the love of the job tat keeps u working



anyway i too agree BA is not a profession only. a ba grad joins the comp in the later stage then they specialize in what they do hr, acc, finance, markting etc. where as an engineer come out well already an engineer jus depend on wat industry they join manufac, constuction, marine etc... or a lawyer who practices law on criminal, commercial, family etc...

This post has been edited by nicvoo: Jan 10 2009, 03:12 PM

Guys, I would like to apply for PR, but my company couldn't sponsor for my application. Slim chances?

What should I look at? I check at my application status, it is at orange light, 1 year working here only green light. Can I depends on my degree, s pass and my salary?

The e-appointment for PR seems to be full for this whole year... What can I do to get PR quick?

Just to share my experience... I made e-appointment too while I was applying PR. Guess what? I still have to wait for 3 hours plus beyond the appointment time (appointment was on 1pm but I settled the business after 4pm). Reason? I was told by the officer that nowadays everyone went through by e-appointment thus it actually won't make the waiting process too much shorter. Can't imagine what will happen to those with appointment says on 3pm or later. I wonder if I am the only one who encountered this... In fact I thought this kind of circumstances only happen in Malaysia's government body

This post has been edited by Find The Way: Jan 11 2009, 11:58 PM

Hi all,

I posted this question before but seems like it was drowned among all the posts.

Is the IT industry in Singapore hit hard by the current crisis? What are the chances of getting a programmer job for a TARC degree holder, 1 yr experience with average skill set in .NET?

How many here in IT got their job by travelling down to SG for interview, instead of staying in SG and search for job?

Pity you. I got my current job by applying and then traveling down to SG for an interview. I am an IT graduate but unfortunately the job I got is non-IT related. You could stay in SG while looking for a job provided you have any friends/relatives whom you may stay with. Renting a hotel/room here is not cheap.

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Added on
I just found out that the guy renting the room beside me passed away early this morning due to breathing difficulties and heart failure.

This post has been edited by wu ming: Jan 12 2009, 08:36 AM

Seems to be full till all the way next year

Anyway, I just tried my luck and found 1 slot on 23th March
Saja get the slot 1st

Probably u can ask for cheaper rent since somebody died. sure less appealing if somebody died before.

To apply PR, is e-appointment a necessary? Can I just go over to the service center and apply for PR (without any prior booking)?

This post has been edited by Uchiha Itachi: Jan 12 2009, 09:11 PM

I am not sure! You might need to be to line up at ICA as early at 5 or 6! Then get a ticket number if possible. Someone tried it everyday for a month, although she got e-appointment.

If you want fast application, do that!

^I decided to try both ways

BTW, I would like to take driving theory test too, any idea where I can apply for the test?

Now Really go so terrible? I apply December last last year. Reach ICA on Saturday morning 8am. Able to get my application done about 12pm. Maybe tat time they haven implement the e-appointment? But that time is holiday la.. Not much Student.



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I am not sure. That's what I heard from my gf, her colleague did that way

anyone got change the new ezlink ? lol unlike in malaysia, when things newly come out people here all like kiasu n q up to change it.

in malaysia mostly dont even bother to change IC even say got fine.

ini kiasu land tau

I am shock to see the 1st day so many ppl line up, blocking the path entering the entrance... Come on, you guys got the time to line up and not working, we don't!

Not all line up to change, I had not have mine changed yet, for what? let the excitment pass over then change. FYI, my anuty change last week with no one on the queue.... where she change, I don't know, but she told me, no fuss over it.

hi all..

i wan to ask those who are working in Singapore now about somethings.. i want to so Singapore to work so what is the things that i need to prepare?what is the requirement over there? i wan to choose job is related to IT.. How long u all spend on finding work over there?

i traveled down to sg for interview a few times before i got my current job.

i'm not sure the IT industry is in a bad shape like india now, maybe we will know after the 1st quarter.

why dont u try to apply for jobs in malaysia and then ask for phone interview 1st, if they r ok with u, then only travel down to sg for face-2-face interview.

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Added on January 15, 2009, 9:56 ami changed my ezlink at HarbourFront stn, not a lot of ppls, just wait for about 15mins.

This post has been edited by kinwah_lai: Jan 15 2009, 09:56 AM