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Action/Platformer The Official Batman: Arkham Asylum/City PC Thread, Fall 2011 | story & gameplay info leaked
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tripleB
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Nov 26 2011, 06:47 PM
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I just got the game yesterday. 1st thing I noticed was the severe performance issues, even after changing the resolution to 1280x720. I normally can run all games at highest settings at 1920x1080. Using Geforce GTX590. Then when I went looking online, I see the DX11 problem. Damn it, making me wait for a feature that's not even ready at launch. Ah well, at least PC version still benefits from the PhysX effects and higher resolutions for now.
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tripleB
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Nov 27 2011, 09:38 AM
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Of course, I'll be expecting the DX11 patch too, but damn is this game soooo addictive. Even with DX11 turned off (but everything else highest setting), the game still looks great. Too bad it seems the 3D support (Nvidia 3d Vision) is not as good as Arkham Asylum. That game had really good 3D implementation.
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tripleB
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Nov 29 2011, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Nov 29 2011, 07:32 AM) Still waiting for that Direct X11 patch from Rocksteady. I've been playing in DX11 just for kicks, and I can say it's at least playable. Obviously it's still not optimized, I need that DX11 patch too. Getting around 45+ to 60+ fps. Don't rely on the benchmarks as proof of performance. In actual gameplay, I can turn on everything, highest AAA, DX11 high, PhysX high, BUT I need to run at 1280x720 to get playable framerates. I'm running the game in 3D mode btw. Haven't actually tried disabling 3D in 1920x1080. Although I must stress I'm running an OC 2600K with a Geforce GTX590 (SLI profile enabled). I'm not too sure how would it perform on a single card though. What CPU/card are you running?
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tripleB
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Nov 29 2011, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Nov 29 2011, 11:32 AM) Nice. Quite playable at 45 to 60 fps. I am currently on a i7 920 (stock) and Geforce GTX580. I am considering upgrading to a i7 2600k end of this year (my dad just gotten a i5 2400 processor and the idle temperature is so low, ie. 33c using Coolermaster TX6 whilst mine is 39c using a Corsair H70 cooler). What mobo are you using to oc your processor? Yeah, the 1155 processors have better temps even on stock cooling. Either way, I'm still running a Corsair H50 on my CPU. Carrover item from my last PC  I'm outside doing training now, so I can't really remember my mobo, but it should be this one: http://www.gigabyte.my/products/product-pa...spx?pid=3850#ovMy current setup: Intel Core i7 2600K Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P motherboard 8GB DDR3 2000 RAM Nvidia Geforce GTX590 Corsair H50 CPU cooler The rest is just standard stuff. Wanted to run SSD, but I'm not ready to jump in just yet. Waiting for a price drop, don't know when is that. Anyway, as far as OC goes, I'm able to achieve a very stable 4Ghz. I tried pushing it past 4Ghz, but some stuff like 3D Mark is unstable, although Windows and games are fine. I'd rather not push my luck though. A lot of online reviews for OC the 2600K exist, you should be able to exceed my 4Ghz speed very easily.
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tripleB
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Nov 30 2011, 04:35 PM
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Nope, still no release date for the patch. But I did notice a new Beta driver for Nvidia cards: http://www.geforce.com/News/articles/nvidi...rivers-releasedAlthough it didn't specifically say whether it would improve Arkham City performance, it did say "Recommended for gamers diving into Batman: Arkham City". I'll be giving it a go once I reach home later. I'll post again here once I've tested it.
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tripleB
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Dec 1 2011, 12:14 AM
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Ugh, wanted to post much earlier but got sucked into the game again. Why? Because he's The Goddamned Batman, that's why! Ahem. Ok, running on the 290.36 Beta driver does not have any really noticeable framerate improvements. However, if you're running 3D Vision, the game is now rated as '3D Vision Ready' instead of simply 'Good'. I did discover something interesting though.
Here are my test settings:
TEST 1
Resolution: 1920x180 Vsync: Yes Anti-Aliasing: Nvidia 32X CSAA Dirext11 Features: MVSS and HBAO DirextX Tesselation: Normal Detail Level: Very High Dynamic Shadows: Yes Motion Blur: Yes Distortion: Yes Lens Flares: Yes Light Shafts: Yes Ambient Occlusion: Yes Hardware Accelerated PhysX: High
Low framerate, average around 40fps, playable although the framerate jumps around
TEST 2
Resolution: 1920x180 Vsync: Yes Anti-Aliasing: Nvidia 32X CSAA Dirext11 Features: Off DirextX Tesselation: Off Detail Level: Very High Dynamic Shadows: Yes Motion Blur: Yes Distortion: Yes Lens Flares: Yes Light Shafts: Yes Ambient Occlusion: Yes Hardware Accelerated PhysX: High
Rock solid performance. No issues.
TEST 3
Resolution: 1920x180 Vsync: Yes Anti-Aliasing: Nvidia 32X CSAA Dirext11 Features: MVSS and HBAO DirextX Tesselation: Normal Detail Level: Very High Dynamic Shadows: Yes Motion Blur: Yes Distortion: Yes Lens Flares: Yes Light Shafts: Yes Ambient Occlusion: Yes Hardware Accelerated PhysX: Off
Playable framerate, between 30 to 60fps, average around 50 fps
Test 2 of proves that disabling DX11 still gives the best performance. However, on Test 3 I can achieve playable framerates after disabling PhysX. I don't remember how was the performance when using the 280.62 driver, but I think there's a general performance increase on the Beta driver. So for it's either enable DX11, or enable PhysX, but not both. Although for me right now, I'm actually playing with both enabled, but I scaled down the resolution to 1280x720. It's also important to note that I'm running the game in 3D, so it might actually perform better in standard mode.
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tripleB
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Dec 5 2011, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Dec 4 2011, 06:22 PM) guys, does the standard edition comes with catwoman and robin dlc? Catwoman already included in retail version as well. I think on consoles you have to download her as DLC, though the code is already inside new copies of the game. On PC, she's already unlocked from the start. You don't have to do anything to play her. Robin is DLC only though. QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Dec 5 2011, 04:53 AM) arghh, im donwloading this game now from steam. after reading this dx11 prob, feel no mood dy to play. hopefully it can be fixed in one patch. praying that it will happen.. Yeah it's a bummer. But I don't think that should impair your game experience. The PC version already looks much better with sharper textures, higher resolution and PhysX enabled. That doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to playing the game in DX11 though.
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tripleB
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Dec 7 2011, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Dec 7 2011, 09:26 PM) any official patch yet for the retail version? Yes, yes there is. Just log on to GFWL, it'll prompt you to update. I just tried playing a bit with the patch on. I can say that DirectX11 performance has been greatly improved. However, it's extremely taxing on your hardware, and not everyone will be able to benefit from it. With everything turned on to highest settings and DX11 high, I can get between 28 to 60 fps, averaging at 40 fps. Setting Anti-Aliasing to FXAA High seems to do the trick for me. I can get a constant 60 fps with this configuration at 1920x1080 resolution. As far as the DX11 effects go, it won't suddenly make the console versions look ugly or anything. In fact, if you don't know what to look for, there doesn't seem to be much difference between DX9 and DX11. Look at the sidewalk, the gargoyles or any particular building structure for comparisons. Even the texture on Batman/Bruce Wayne received an upgrade in DX11. Turning on DX11 basically makes the polygon geometry more organic, and textures are now less repeating, more varied.
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tripleB
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Dec 7 2011, 09:58 PM
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Check your Windows Programs Uninstall. Before the patch, you should see Batman Arkham City. After the update, you should see 2 uninstall options: Batman Arkham City and Batman Arkham City 1.0
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tripleB
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Dec 7 2011, 11:08 PM
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Gee this is weird. Earlier when I posted, that really was how I saw the uninstaller. But I was having some weird problems with my game. It can't detect Disc 1 is in the drive, so it won't start. After uninstalling then reinstalling, I now have the same version (1.0.0000.131). Anyhow, that shows it's already patched.
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tripleB
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Dec 8 2011, 07:32 AM
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Dec 8 2011, 06:57 AM) This is patch version? But I still cannot play in dx11. Fps too low. So for me is like no patch at all. Lol. Added on December 8, 2011, 6:58 amWell in the first place DX11 tesselation is a really taxing application on your GPU and/or CPU. Not everyone will be able to benefit from DX11. For example, I was using a Radeon 5870 not too long ago. It was regarded as the world's first DX11 ready card, but it means nothing to me. Games are almost unplayable with DX11 turned on. The newer cards like the Radeon 6970 and Geforce GTX 580 can handle DX11 much better. I'm running a Gefroce GTX 590, and Arkham City was unplayable in DX11 mode. The game doesn't look anything like Crysis 2 in DX11, so it can't be because of my GPU/CPU, since Crysis 2 can run beautifully in DX11. That's why most people who have power rigs immediately noticed that the game's DX11 implementation was buggy. What's your current PC setup btw?
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tripleB
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Dec 8 2011, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Dec 8 2011, 12:28 PM) My specs at my siggy. The patch that was released on steam yest, has it been released on gfwl? There's only been 1 patch so far. It should be the same patch for both Steam and GFWL. I think your rig is a relatively modest one, so you won't be able to run everything maxed out. Anyhow, what settings are you running Arkham City? I noticed your GPU is a Radeon 6950 Dirt 3 edition? How does Dirt 3 perform in DX11 on your PC?
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tripleB
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Dec 8 2011, 10:25 PM
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On 2nd day play with the patch. Game can be considered smooth, but I still had to tone down some of the options. DX11 high, Vsync No, PhysX High, Anti-Aliasing FXAA High. With DX11 set to High, you start appreciating the litttle details, like how water the ripples, and the cloth physics on characters are more soft now. Loving this game so much right now!
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tripleB
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Dec 23 2011, 10:40 PM
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Not too sure about that. I think there's only been one patch so far, and that patch was for improving the DX11 performance. I don't know about any other issues at the moment. Except the one where the savegame is completely lost if you uninstall the game. Most games will still keep the savegame, but this game... Say, does anyone know if we can de-authenticate the game's serial key from my GFWL id? I just bought another copy (the collector's edition) and I'm thinking of letting go of my current copy. Of course I can just give my new copy's serial key, but a bit sayang, since the contents won't be fully matching any more. Anyone know about this?
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tripleB
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Jan 21 2012, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(kianlun @ Jan 16 2012, 11:43 PM) sorry for noob question. anyone tried batman AC on 3DTV? I can't seem to get it to work with my 3D TV. My stereoscopic 3D settings : Nvidia 3D Vision Enabled. But still didn't work. I'm using it with my 3D monitor, which is only HDMI 1.4a, not 3D Vision capable. The thing about using it with your 3D TV is that you can't just use it straight out. You need to run either Nvidia 3DTV Play or an alternative software called Tridef 3D. In my case I just use 3DTV Play. Also, you might need specific drivers for your TV. I went through a lot of reading before I could get it to work.
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tripleB
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Jan 30 2012, 10:22 AM
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Well, even taking into account the DX11 patch, not everyone will be able to crank the game up to maximum. All the while I've been able to get a near rock solid 60fps and above with maximum settings at 1280x720 with 3D enabled, EXCEPT during the Joker fight. In that scenario, the problem wasn't even related to DX11, but PhysX! Everytime the glass/debris falls, the number of physics objects is just too much to handle on my machine. On top of advanced particles, ragdoll animation, cloth simulation, my PC still had to handle DX11 and drawing the game twice (because of 3D). The result? FPS in the single digits, where the game becomes near damn unplayable for me. After that part, everything's ok again. Also, the game is reaaaaaally eating up all my gaming time. Since I don't have the luxury of spending too much time playing games these days, I play nothing else but Batman AC. I'm committed to 100 percent the game! If anyone sees me online these days, they'll notice I'm always on this game.  I'll try to get in some SSF4 once the 2012 patch comes.
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tripleB
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Jun 14 2012, 09:38 AM
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Has anyone tried PC Harley Quinn's Revenge? I'm still atas pagar about paying for it vs waiting for the GOTY edition. The thing is that I already have the collector's edition, so all the other DLC items are not really needed.
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tripleB
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Jun 14 2012, 02:18 PM
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Wow, you can tahan waiting until the GOTY? That's amazing. My tangan gatal cannot tahan, despite knowing they might release GOTY just like they did with AA.
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