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DIY T-Amp user/diyer come here :), TA2024 complete build board diy

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jazzy939
post Aug 28 2008, 01:11 AM

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Y.C.,
Hehe.. we all do that sometimes.. wink.gif I did lose lotsa sleep when I was playing with the T-Amp at the early stage.. hehe.
Thank you, that's very kind of you. Yes, I don't see why not! biggrin.gif Count me in! nod.gif
Gonna hit the sack shortly.. G'nite guys! Sweet dreams.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Y.C. @ Aug 28 2008, 12:58 AM)
jazzy,
Ya, going to hit the sack shortly. Got too carried away with the T-amp and cap replacements which are not too expensive from RM1.66 - RM3.51 each. Would you like to join us in our order?
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post Aug 28 2008, 01:19 AM

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Y.C.,
Thanks for the link! biggrin.gif
Will definitely read it later (much much later..) barely awake now.. hehe tongue.gif
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post Aug 28 2008, 06:53 AM

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Y.C.,
Same here! I wasn't aware of EPCOS until pointed out by my son! tongue.gif As we all know, I am using two EPCOS caps on my T-Amp.. wink.gif
We all know about the evr popular WIMAs..

You go on ahead with the orders, I am with you guys. Bill me later, no problemo! wink.gif

I have read the details at the mardis's site earlier.. just that I do not remember the site. biggrin.gif
It was specific to the Sonic Impact's board, which is not much different basically from our/evaluation board layout..
Let's DO IT then! thumbup.gif


QUOTE(Y.C. @ Aug 28 2008, 01:42 AM)
Problem is, I never heard of Epcos until now whereas all these while I have been reading about Wima caps. The same goes with Auricap yellow caps which is highly raved by many diyers and hifi nuts.

Will double confirm with you again tomorrow before I key in my order online, now too tired already after a long day at work. Need to double confirm with Jazzy who is also keen.

Do check out the mardis site I pointed out to Jazzy in my previous posting. All the recommended mods are stated in Input Mods and New Super T

Good night.
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post Aug 28 2008, 05:22 PM

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ongbs,
Great and compact looking! I like it! thumbup.gif
BTW, Where did you get those inductors? Mean looking stuffs! tongue.gif

LED no light also ok.. it’s the sound that counts! laugh.gif

QUOTE(ongbs @ Aug 28 2008, 12:35 PM)
Ok, my T-amp almost complete...kasi poison sikit  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  tongue.gif

The front 2 right LED got no purpose yet...will connect later...still thinking where to connect. smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2008, 05:27 PM

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xtorm,
those softdrink cans are no good here. They're aluminium!
U need iron/steel… non-magnetically permeable stuffs.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(xtorm @ Aug 28 2008, 12:56 PM)


Added on August 28, 2008, 4:59 pmhmm really quiet here today...hahaha

hmm couldnt find any metal piece to use as shielding for the coil....

i try softdrink can, they dont conduct elecricity, are they good as shielding?
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post Aug 28 2008, 06:33 PM

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Took some time off during lunch and hit JP for some stuffs wink.gif
Got meself:

1. SMPS 12VDC 4.5A - same price as T-Amp! thumbup.gif
2. LCR Meter - China Made but what the heck, now I can measure... laugh.gif
3. Binding Post - for speaker connections
4. Ferrite rings }
5. Enamelled copper wire } DIY toroid inductor project brows.gif
6. Hakko soldering Iron..

I have decided to go with SMPS- Cheaper than a linear PSU, therefore Value For Money!

Oooo am I gonna be busy this weekend.. laugh.gif



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post Aug 28 2008, 06:44 PM

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I already have a temperature controlled one! This one for general use... tongue.gif This is iron no. 7! I must be nutz! doh.gif

NO! NO! NOT 5000 Euro! Just 100 bucks! Can you believe it? laugh.gif Normal 3.5 digital display wink.gif

QUOTE(ongbs @ Aug 28 2008, 06:38 PM)
6. Hakko soldering Iron..  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
with temp control huh?

LCR meter how much bro? emm...5000Euro ah?
got cun-cun LCD graphic display boh?
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post Aug 28 2008, 06:51 PM

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We see how lah! tongue.gif
But I'll try NOT to dissappoint you.. wink.gif
BTW I got some good looking LEDs. Forgot to mention this earlier.
I love the clear orange ones.. Had installed one on my LD2+ Headphone amp before I sold it off.. man, they look good in the dark! brows.gif
Glowing like little valve...

QUOTE(ongbs @ Aug 28 2008, 06:46 PM)
hehe..with all these nice tools we are expecting some nice pics over the weekend  whistling.gif  tongue.gif
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post Aug 29 2008, 12:53 AM

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hi mysghooi,
Sorry for the late reply, just got back home tongue.gif
Make sure the regulator can take the current from your transformer.. should be at least 2A, 3A preferably.
Instead of replacing the 1000uF, why not install it at the output of the regulator as a reservoir capacitor? It would certainly enhance the voltage/current output.. wink.gif See attached diagram, the cap C is the reservoir capacitor. If you wanna replace the 1000uF I don't see any issues with it.. biggrin.gif


The 4.5A SMPS is mine. You wanna see the pix? tongue.gif


QUOTE(mysghooi @ Aug 28 2008, 08:41 PM)
Hi jazzy939, the shop show me the sample of the 12v regulator kit just same like what you post in the picture. Is is using 1000uf 12V by the way can I change it to 10000uf 25v. Will it too much?


Added on August 28, 2008, 8:42 pmHi xtorm do you have any picture for the smps 4.5amp?
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Added on August 29, 2008, 12:59 ammysghooi,
I think its too much ler! ohmy.gif
I'm using a 25W only.. 40W would be the max.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(mysghooi @ Aug 28 2008, 08:37 PM)
Hi, jazzy939 how many soldering pen is good for soldering this T-amp? I have 60w is it too much?
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post Aug 29 2008, 01:11 AM

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gabanyayaya,
This T-Amp fortunately is notreally choosy about the type of power supplies..
See attached pic. This as simple as it gets.. Simple Full Wave Rectifier.

QUOTE(gabanyayaya @ Aug 29 2008, 01:02 AM)
jazzy...is possible for you to draw me a simple diagram if power supply for the t-amp?
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post Aug 29 2008, 01:27 AM

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Value? Use 'some' value capacitor(electrolytic), observe the polarity and WV(working voltage, more is OK but NOT less). This smoothing/or reservoir capacitor to reduce the DC ripple. The bigger the value, the less the ripple, therefore the better! biggrin.gif Bigger=expensive tongue.gif

Your diagram is correct. The rectifier can be in the form of diode(1/2 wave) or 4 diodes/bridge rectifier for FULL wave rectification. It can also be a regulator board/circuit.

SMPS is a different ball game altogether.. too complex to DIY but not impossible biggrin.gif

QUOTE(gabanyayaya @ Aug 29 2008, 01:20 AM)
nice...! thanks jazzy....where's the value ??????
before that look here......

user posted image

is this right?????

btw...implementing SMPS....how's does it look like????? same like above....???? man i'm so slow here from you guys..... doh.gif  shakehead.gif
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gabanyayaya,
this a block diagram of a SMPS.




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post Aug 29 2008, 01:46 AM

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Earlier I thought of taking the linear PSU way.. after counting the costs of making a good one versus a ready made SMPS one, since we're always keeping to the 'best value for money' approach, the SMPS wins hands down. The costly part of a linear PSU is the tranny.. we're not even using the toroid tranny! tongue.gif ON top of that, the T-Amp isknown to perform better with SMPS wink.gif

My T-Amps are configured as a Power Amp. I am using two T-Amps boards for bi-amping purposes. The SMPS will supply the two boards.
I also have connections for external PSU/Battery choices... 3 different power supply! brows.gif

QUOTE(gabanyayaya @ Aug 29 2008, 01:33 AM)
Allritey then....i think i'm "fully aware" about the rectifier based on the earlier posting....

is that why u buy SMPS board....??? easy solution....i gues you amp must be complicated......can't wait to see them. I just have to see it jazzy...then I'll know.....

btw I' listening to Sheffield Labs's Creme De La Creme album.....very musically......hope can test this at your amp....
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Added on August 29, 2008, 1:50 amLate? No lah.. it's early friday morning! laugh.gif

NO, I'm afraid to don't have that album tongue.gif Wahh very young Mr. Watanabe! biggrin.gif
Great bring it along the next time! wink.gif

QUOTE(gabanyayaya @ Aug 29 2008, 01:45 AM)
yes  i see......more filter along the voltage path......i heard SMPS is better than usual linear supply....will study it that.....it getting late...thanks bro.....need some rest
btw do you have this album......??? i'll bring it to you later to test if you like

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post Aug 29 2008, 02:14 AM

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Y.C.,
Thank you for the effort. I appreciate it very much! rclxms.gif
I am agreeable to the proposed buy. thumbup.gif

I have heard and read about Vishay parts.. It's time to sample and experience them first hand! brows.gif
BTW, your PM did arrived but I did not read it until just now! blush.gif My apology.

Y.C.,
While you're at it, can you include me for the Vishay's 20K resistors too? Might as well go ALL the way laugh.gif

Ooopss. its two in the morning! Time to hit the sack. G'nite all! tongue.gif




QUOTE(Y.C. @ Aug 29 2008, 01:59 AM)
xtorm and jazzy,

Are both of you comfortable with my choice ?  Costs / person =
- 0.1uF 63V 10% capacitance tolerance, 1.17 x 10 = RM11.70
(qty ordered to be multiple of 10, so each of us need to take 10)
- 0.47uF 63V 10% capacitance tolerance, 2.64 x 20 / 3 = RM16.20 (6pcs) / RM18.30 (7pcs)

Total of RM27.90 / RM30.00 per person, tentative delivery time by next Thursday as Farnell stocks are in UK. Agreeable by all ?
Jazzy,

I PMed you and xtorm prices of Wima MKS2 today. xtorm claimed he didn’t receive the 1st time; if you did kindly ignore them as the 0.1uF caps are with capacitance tolerance of 20% and as for 0.47uF caps from RS Compo, we need to wait between 5 - 8 working days for stocks to arrive from UK too and both the prices have yet to factor in the extra pcs we need to absorb due to qty ordered in multiple of 5.
xtorm,

ok, I’ll see you later today. I found Vishay BC Components 20K ohm resistors at Farnell at RM0.42 each so you need not bring the Multicomp resistors along with you.
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post Aug 29 2008, 02:24 AM

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Thanks Y.C.!
G'nite y'all! tongue.gif
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post Aug 29 2008, 09:11 AM

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ongbs,
"early birds" catch the best 'worms'? laugh.gif

Will look forward with your report! I will also report on my spanking new 12V 4.2A SMPS biggrin.gif
Gonna see if there would be difference between the 2.5A and 4.5 versions.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(ongbs @ Aug 29 2008, 08:44 AM)
hehe...so many "early birds" smile.gif
Will update my T-amp test again later with 13V 2.1A SMPS tongue.gif
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post Aug 29 2008, 09:23 AM

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mysghooi,
Since you asked for the SMPS pictures; here it is! biggrin.gif


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mysghooi,
Sure I can get you one.. there's more from where I got them! biggrin.gif Send by post?
Yes. All you need is an ac power cord connected to the terminals marked "L" & "N".

One of the reasons why I resorted to SMPS was the unavailability of 12V 3A regulator kits @ JP. The last of the stocks was snapped up by another LYN forumer after he saw my bench PSU, also doing some power supply projects tongue.gif He bought the last 3!

QUOTE(mysghooi @ Aug 29 2008, 09:40 AM)
hi jazzy939 can help me to get one smps ah, same as yours. Is this using the AC power cord as power source?


Added on August 29, 2008, 9:42 amBy the way jazzy939 can you also help me to get the 12v regulator 3A Kit. As here is out of stock. What is the price you get it?
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ongbs,
Yes it IS! Other shops are selling it at RM80! laugh.gif
That particular shop is the exception. I was haggling to lower it to RM50! Would have got it if the 'towkey' was around.
Guess I was lucky.. brows.gif

QUOTE(ongbs @ Aug 29 2008, 09:54 AM)
bro, at RM55 this SMPS is a real bargain! tongue.gif
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There's a 1.3A version going for RM38 tongue.gif
Yeah.. it’s a Made in China thingy.. looks very well finished. The reason why I bought it.. wink.gif
The shop is in Jalan Landak off Jalan Pasar.

QUOTE(xtorm @ Aug 29 2008, 10:12 AM)
haha there is 8amp for rm98...but no battery charging port

hmm which shop ah? whats the brand? meanwell?
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